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Post by jayj79 on Apr 21, 2019 23:39:14 GMT -5
How are the crypts the safest place to be? Can someone remind me, please. From a physical perspective, the crypts are the most defensible, being that there is only one way in or out, that is easily fortified. But when factor in the notion that your foe has the ability to animate the dead into zombies under their control, is it really that smart to lock yourself in a place where all your dead ancestors are entombed? The books seemed to hint that the crypts of Winterfell were much larger/deeper than most people realized (or even larger than the remaining Starks themselves knew), and that they perhaps secretly had their own mystic powers, or that something mysterious was hidden in their depths. But I don't know if the show will acknowledge any of that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 23:56:14 GMT -5
Nah, I get it. I was trying sarcasm. I should have used different punctuation or something. Sam probably has a map. Has anybody fished Joffrey’s first sword out of the river?
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 22, 2019 0:14:32 GMT -5
Game of Thrones went back to the classics tonight, with a story-telling technique that was old 3000 years ago -- showing us people spending the last night before an expected battle.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 22, 2019 0:28:47 GMT -5
Ok, episode 2 with Arya...whoa. I know Arya has now grown into a young adult (and a deadly assasin), but man, seeing her like that is kinda..weird and a little awkward, I still have a picture of her as the little kid in season 1.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 22, 2019 3:44:02 GMT -5
Ok, episode 2 with Arya...whoa. I know Arya has now grown into a young adult (and a deadly assasin), but man, seeing her like that is kinda..weird and a little awkward, I still have a picture of her as the little kid in season 1. The actress that plays her is 22. When she was first cast as Arya, she was only 12. I thought it was a good scene, much better than if she had spent the night snarling at Clegane. Arya's been about nothing but survival and death for the whole series, and she finally gets to experience something else. I also liked the impromptu gathering in front of the fireplace culminating in a knighting ceremony for Sir Brienne.
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Post by gnu2vball on Apr 22, 2019 8:35:40 GMT -5
Interesting to see Daenerys' dark side coming out; her response to Sansa's questions about the North and Jon's/Aegon's revelations about his origins really were eye-openers.
Can't wait to see the the undead dispatched so we can get to the endgame.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 22, 2019 8:57:20 GMT -5
Ok, episode 2 with Arya...whoa. I know Arya has now grown into a young adult (and a deadly assasin), but man, seeing her like that is kinda..weird and a little awkward, I still have a picture of her as the little kid in season 1. The actress that plays her is 22. When she was first cast as Arya, she was only 12. I thought it was a good scene, much better than if she had spent the night snarling at Clegane. Arya's been about nothing but survival and death for the whole series, and she finally gets to experience something else. I also liked the impromptu gathering in front of the fireplace culminating in a knighting ceremony for Sir Brienne. I get it from a story-telling point of view, after what Arya experienced and what she became in the series meant the producers want to show her she is still human in her core, having feelings and desire, and not merely a ruthless killer. And also to show Arya has grown up. But still it was a bit jarring to watch, the producers could have set it up better. Too abrupt. The one good thing I will say about the scene is that sex is often too one-sided, dominated by men in the Game of Thrones, but here Arya is the proactive one calling the shots. The only other exceptions to male conquest-type sex I can think of was Ygritte seducing Jon and Melisandre trying to getting it on with Jon. And on the same note, I like the Brienne scene too, about time she got some official recognition.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 22, 2019 9:01:53 GMT -5
Interesting to see Daenerys' dark side coming out; her response to Sansa's questions about the North and Jon's/Aegon's revelations about his origins really were eye-openers. Can't wait to see the the undead dispatched so we can get to the endgame. Could the big twist be that she is the real villian here? After all, her evil side is showing. And why have the big battle in episode 3 and not at or near the end of the series? Is that hinting Dany becoming the real baddie?
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Post by jayj79 on Apr 22, 2019 9:19:30 GMT -5
Could the big twist be that she is the real villian here? After all, her evil side is showing. And why have the big battle in episode 3 and not at or near the end of the series? Is that hinting Dany becoming the real baddie? Evil? did I miss something? She doesn't want to lose half the land of her (perspective) kingdoms. Political? sure. Selfish? maybe. But I don't see anything evil about it. Was it "evil" when Robert, Ned, and all went to war to quosh Balon Greyjoy's rebellion (which was about the Iron Islands seceding from the Seven Kingdoms)? And that was about far less land and people than all of the North. Was it "evil" when the US went to war to stop the Southern States from seceding?
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 22, 2019 9:47:41 GMT -5
Could the big twist be that she is the real villian here? After all, her evil side is showing. And why have the big battle in episode 3 and not at or near the end of the series? Is that hinting Dany becoming the real baddie? Evil? did I miss something? She doesn't want to lose half the land of her (perspective) kingdoms. Political? sure. Selfish? maybe. But I don't see anything evil about it. Was it "evil" when Robert, Ned, and all went to war to quosh Balon Greyjoy's rebellion (which was about the Iron Islands seceding from the Seven Kingdoms)? And that was about far less land and people than all of the North. Was it "evil" when the US went to war to stop the Southern States from seceding? Hmmm....got up from the wrong side of bed have we? Or some anger management issue?
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Post by jayj79 on Apr 22, 2019 9:53:36 GMT -5
Evil? did I miss something? She doesn't want to lose half the land of her (perspective) kingdoms. Political? sure. Selfish? maybe. But I don't see anything evil about it. Was it "evil" when Robert, Ned, and all went to war to quosh Balon Greyjoy's rebellion (which was about the Iron Islands seceding from the Seven Kingdoms)? And that was about far less land and people than all of the North. Was it "evil" when the US went to war to stop the Southern States from seceding? Hmmm....got up from the wrong side of bed have we? Or some anger management issue? Or maybe I'm just "evil"
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 22, 2019 9:54:51 GMT -5
Hmmm....got up from the wrong side of bed have we? Or some anger management issue? Or maybe I'm just "evil" Or maybe not entirely right in the head perhaps?
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Post by gnu2vball on Apr 22, 2019 9:58:16 GMT -5
Interesting to see Daenerys' dark side coming out; her response to Sansa's questions about the North and Jon's/Aegon's revelations about his origins really were eye-openers. Can't wait to see the the undead dispatched so we can get to the endgame. Could the big twist be that she is the real villian here? After all, her evil side is showing. And why have the big battle in episode 3 and not at or near the end of the series? Is that hinting Dany becoming the real baddie? I don't think there's any doubt that Cersei is the ultimate villain. Dany does have some rough edges--a little too much self will, perhaps. I'm pleased that it looks like the undead issue won't be the last issue to be resolved. The storyline will move to resolve conflicts amongst the living that I find far more interesting.
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Post by jayj79 on Apr 22, 2019 10:09:14 GMT -5
Dany does have some rough edges--a little too much self will, perhaps. isn't that the case with every ruler (or want-to-be-ruler) of the Seven Kingdoms?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 10:09:47 GMT -5
If you reverse the order of the conversations between Dany/John and Dany/Sansa do you get a different outcome instead of the awkward pulling hands do we get a hug instead?
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