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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Jan 14, 2020 4:27:48 GMT -5
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Post by staticb on Jan 14, 2020 16:16:58 GMT -5
Looks like Rasmussen, Van Sickle, Waggoner, Gong, and Krug will be playing beach this season No Iosia? Possible she wants to go pro in indoor right away.
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Post by 2left on Jan 15, 2020 18:28:08 GMT -5
I thought Hawaii said that Honolulu was going to put in a bid for next time. Not sure that we have beaches wide enough for the Championships. The shoreline is pretty close on almost every beach here. As geddy mentioned, the Championships need a lot of space. But for smaller tournaments, our beaches are the best because they are real beaches in a tropical paradise. Waimea Bay? That would be awesome.
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Post by vollydollyaz on Jan 17, 2020 10:42:01 GMT -5
Will Iosia return to the beach? Love watching her play.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jan 17, 2020 23:33:54 GMT -5
Iosia and Hellvig are both playing beach as well
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Post by ancksunamun on Jan 18, 2020 3:22:02 GMT -5
With the mix of veterans, new beach recruits, plus the indoor crossovers, this season is going to be an exciting year for the Sandbows.
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Post by ilikecorn on Jan 20, 2020 18:56:20 GMT -5
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Post by diyakuno on Jan 20, 2020 19:25:30 GMT -5
Per the instastory, our cross over players are:
Van Sickle Rasmussen Iosia Hellvig Krug Wagoner
I predicted them some time ago except Krug. Now it’s going to be an interesting mix with all these new players.
This season, I expect them to go far again. I think Cal Poly will cause some trouble again but I think the Bows have an edge in depth. Top 2 flights are hard to predict because I think more than five pairings/combinations can be made and the remaining players will look almost to good to be in Flights 3-5.
My prediction is that UH will struggle early finding the right top flights but this season, I believe the key players will be Flights 3, 4, 5.
I know it’s early and it changes all the time but my dream pairs:
Flights 1 & 2 Players: - Martin - Scoles - Ozee - Hanneman - Huddleston - Napoleon
Flights 3 & 4 Players: - Loker - Hellvig - Iosia - Van Sickle - Kekauoha - Rasmussen
Flight 5 Players: - Hardisty - Maidment - Russo - Hurkett - Krug
My dream line up would be (it’s so hard to match!)
Martin/Huddleston Scoles/Napoleon Hellvig/Ozee Loker/Van Sickle Rasmussen/Kekauoha
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Post by newbeach on Jan 20, 2020 23:27:33 GMT -5
Could this be a good omen for the 2020 beach season? Why is it, I wonder, why UCLA beach has been practicing for awhile and UH just starting today?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 21, 2020 0:34:46 GMT -5
Hawaii needs to send that photo to every potential recruit. Wow.
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Post by newbeach on Jan 21, 2020 0:38:23 GMT -5
Per the instastory, our cross over players are: Van Sickle Rasmussen Iosia Hellvig Krug Wagoner I predicted them some time ago except Krug. Now it’s going to be an interesting mix with all these new players. This season, I expect them to go far again. I think Cal Poly will cause some trouble again but I think the Bows have an edge in depth. Top 2 flights are hard to predict because I think more than five pairings/combinations can be made and the remaining players will look almost to good to be in Flights 3-5. My prediction is that UH will struggle early finding the right top flights but this season, I believe the key players will be Flights 3, 4, 5. I know it’s early and it changes all the time but my dream pairs: Flights 1 & 2 Players: - Martin - Scoles - Ozee - Hanneman - Huddleston - Napoleon Flights 3 & 4 Players: - Loker - Hellvig - Iosia - Van Sickle - Kekauoha - Rasmussen Flight 5 Players: - Hardisty - Maidment - Russo - Hurkett - Krug My dream line up would be (it’s so hard to match!) Martin/Huddleston Scoles/Napoleon Hellvig/Ozee Loker/Van Sickle Rasmussen/Kekauoha Originally, I expected Rasmussen, Van Sickle, Iosia, and Hellvig, but wasn't sure about Wagoner (and didn't expect Krug or Gong). Hellvig and Van Sickle were expected to play, and Rasmussen was putting time on the sand in the Spring and Summer last year. I like your lineups. Martin and Huddleston would have off-the-charts beach IQ, and Scoles and Napolean power. I personally, had the two defenders reversed for those flights, as I like the idea of mixing up the beach IQ (especially with Scoles being still relatively new to beach, she benefits from a solid beach player like Huddleston behind her). I also think Iosia will potentially crack the lineup over Kekauoha. Maidment is a good freshman, and it is hard to see her out of the lineup over Kekauoha too. It's possible that she could end up red-shirting along with Hanneman, and Hardisty (leaving a solid core of players for the next season. I like some of the incoming players too for 2021). Loker and Van Sickle could be interesting too. Nice, but tough decisions for Hall and crew. Roster 2020: Returning Starters: Ozee, Scoles, Martin, Napolean, Loker, Iosia, Russo Returning non-starters: Hurkett Newcomers: Hellvig, Huddleston, Maidment, Hanneman, Van Sickle, Hardisty, Gong, Rasmussen, Kekaouha, Wagoner, Krug Blockers | Defenders | Split Blockers | Martin | Napolean | Martin | Scoles | Huddleston | Ozee | Hellvig | Ozee | Loker | Loker | Van Sickle | Maidment | Iosia | Hanneman | Iosia | Rasmussen | Maidment | Wagoner | Kekaouha | Hardisty | Russo | Wagoner | Gong | | Ozee |
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These are the only players that I think are potential Flight #1 - #2 Players: Martin, Napolean, Scoles, Ozee, Hellvig, Huddleston These are my remaining players that could potentially make Flight #3 Players (players that likely won't play in Flight #1 or #2, but depending on the pairings could wind-up at #3 ): Van Sickle, Loker, Maidment, Hanneman, Iosia These are my remaining players that could end up at Flights #4-6 depending on pairings and how far they come along: Russo, Hardisty, Rasmussen, Kekaouha, Hurkett, Wagoner, Gong, Krug But, what do I know? It would be great if someone really surprised (Van Sickle, Rasmussen, Wagoner, Kekaouha, Hurkett?)!! I still believe Martin will get a chance at #1 because she was relegated to #3 last year, and Ozee had an opportunity to play at #1. That said, the top 3 pairs could all potentially be so close that we could see some movement up and down, like we have seen the past 2 years (until they settle on a #1 pair). If Martin and partner get a chance at #1 and beat the UCLA #1 pair, they could stay there (of course, it all depends as well how it goes in practice playing against the other pairs). #1 Martin/Napolean #2 Scoles/Huddleston #3 Hellvig/Ozee #4 Loker/Van Sickle #5 Iosia/Maidment #6 Rasmussen (Kekaouha)/Hanneman Here's a more unconventional lineup: #1 Martin/Ozee (back together and improved?) #2 Scoles/Napolean (round 2 - still awesome!) #3 Hellvig/Huddleston (freshmen sensations - potential #1 pair in years to come) #4 Loker/Maidment #5 Iosia/Van Sickle #6 Rasmussen or Kekaouha/Hanneman I think Rasmussen and Van Sickle could also be a fun pair.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 21, 2020 16:52:25 GMT -5
It's a mystery to me how they pair up players. I've learned from reading the boards about the big/defender pair strategy. I also learned that Jeff Hall allegedly likes to mix it up every year so that he doesn't have the same pairs year after year. This is definitely not the case at UCLA and USC, see, e.g., Sara Hughes-Kelly Claes, McNamara sisters. There may be other ways to pair up players but I haven't a clue.
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Post by staticb on Jan 21, 2020 18:10:43 GMT -5
It's a mystery to me how they pair up players. I've learned from reading the boards about the big/defender pair strategy. I also learned that Jeff Hall allegedly likes to mix it up every year so that he doesn't have the same pairs year after year. This is definitely not the case at UCLA and USC, see, e.g., Sara Hughes-Kelly Claes, McNamara sisters. There may be other ways to pair up players but I haven't a clue. There's a matrix type formula thing. Basically all the players are rated in a bunch of different areas and the there's this matrix thing that puts together the best team based on all of the different ratings of your players. (Then you have to test it to make sure it's any good)
But as always sometimes some pairs just play really really well together and it doesn't make any sense. (And some players might want to play together as well as the case with the McNamara sisters who refused to play if they were split apart) There's just a lot of variables to try out.
Lots of trial and error. I can't remember a single time in the last few years where the starting pairs at the start of the season were relatively unchanged at the end. Maybe 3(?) years ago.
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Post by newbeach on Jan 21, 2020 20:50:44 GMT -5
It's a mystery to me how they pair up players. I've learned from reading the boards about the big/defender pair strategy. I also learned that Jeff Hall allegedly likes to mix it up every year so that he doesn't have the same pairs year after year. This is definitely not the case at UCLA and USC, see, e.g., Sara Hughes-Kelly Claes, McNamara sisters. There may be other ways to pair up players but I haven't a clue. There's a matrix type formula thing. Basically all the players are rated in a bunch of different areas and the there's this matrix thing that puts together the best team based on all of the different ratings of your players. (Then you have to test it to make sure it's any good)
But as always sometimes some pairs just play really really well together and it doesn't make any sense. (And some players might want to play together as well as the case with the McNamara sisters who refused to play if they were split apart) There's just a lot of variables to try out.
Lots of trial and error. I can't remember a single time in the last few years where the starting pairs at the start of the season were relatively unchanged at the end. Maybe 3(?) years ago.
Yep, in 2017, Martin and Tucker stayed at the #1 flight from start to finish, going 20-17. That was one time, that I actually hoped the coaches would make some changes! 2016, Spieler and Boyan were supposed to be #1, and then Boyan had her accident. Maglio was called up at the Pepperdine tournament and Spieler and her played at the #2 spot (and won). Then they beat USC #2 pair (and beat some other teams) before moving up to #1. I think Taylor and Schrieber were at the #1 after Boyan's injury, but that team didn't work out, and they split part way through the season. 2018, we had Kan and Weaver start at the #1 spot, and ended at the #3 spot (which they were really well suited). Maglio and Schucht moved up to #1. Then, in 2019, Martin and Ozee started at #1 and ended with a big change-up and Maglio and Ozee ended up at the #1 pair. Ian, had a big Matrix for choosing partners (which they kind of abandoned last year), and I don't think UH has been overly successful at their pairings, and ordering of pairs. In the end, they seem to have the pairings work out (we have seen some great partnerships like Maglio/Weaver, Maglio/Speiler, Kan/Homayun, Homayun/Scoles, Taylor/Schucht, Schucht/Maglio, Ozee/Zalopany, Martin/Napolean). I think, sometimes, we just get the order wrong! Hopefully this year, the coaches can identify the good pairs quickly, and then stick with them! Mixing up the pairs last year, I think, affected the development of our pairs when they were going up against seasoned pairings. They were all playing well, by the tournament, but I think they would have done better had they been paired together since January. I would love to see a pair like Hellvig/Huddleston stay together for a few years like the LSU pair of Coppola/Nuss, Claes/Hughes, McNamara/McNamara, Sponcil/Justine, Graudina/Bustamante. Other schools have been really successful with this. Maybe this has been a preference of Hall (I have heard him say this in an interview), but it might also be due to team dynamics, depth, etc. In any event, let's get the pairings right from the get go please coaches!
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jan 23, 2020 15:30:17 GMT -5
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