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Post by 405LAX on May 19, 2019 21:56:16 GMT -5
Taylor and Jake just don’t make mistakes. It was incredible watching. Taylor never seems to be incredible. Great game plan by them. They give a certain thing to you then take it away. Taylor by far best defender we have ha far down and Gibb has found the Hyden fountain of youth Jake has definitely been working hard in the gym, he is much more muscular and cut than in past seasons. Give him credit for pushing hard to give his best effort toward Tokyo. In the end though won't make much difference, Sorum/Mol are far superior to any team we could field. Phil and Taylor would be best chance but still I don't think they beat those kids.
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Post by offthetape on May 19, 2019 22:17:51 GMT -5
Frishman and Marciniak looked a lot better together this week. I liked how they varied their sets, and I think the jumper's beach was ideal for Frish.
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Post by ajm on May 19, 2019 22:20:07 GMT -5
Does the US have anything even remotely like Mol hiding somewhere in deep Apalachia? And why are our elite bigs all over 35? No. If you were to rank the countries in bigs under 30, USA would probably not even be in the top 5. Maybe not even top 7. What's worse, if you rank the top 3 USA blockers under 30, Bourne is #1, his teammate Trevor is #2, and #3? Who knows. Any young American big with the potential of Mol is probably playing indoors where the money is. I don’t know if it’s ever been confirmed, but it’s been said that other countries fund their beach programs much better than USAV does.
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Post by guest2 on May 19, 2019 22:32:16 GMT -5
Does the US have anything even remotely like Mol hiding somewhere in deep Apalachia? And why are our elite bigs all over 35? No. If you were to rank the countries in bigs under 30, USA would probably not even be in the top 5. Maybe not even top 7. What's worse, if you rank the top 3 USA blockers under 30, Bourne is #1, his teammate Trevor is #2, and #3? Who knows. Whats even worse is both are barely under 30. Do the rankings again in October and we are arguing if no. 1 is Spencer Sauter or Logan Weber
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Post by stevieofmb on May 19, 2019 22:43:22 GMT -5
Beej05 - thanks for letting us know what its like out there! Last question - do you think the heat/humidity is affecting the players at all? Its got to be messing with some of the older guys, one would think? 405LAX - agreed about Beranek and Ricardo. Its not always about pure statistics - seems to me like you should also take into account a guy's partner at the time he may be playing against whoever you are comparing him to. Beranek's points scored against someone are not really relevant, because they are not really "Beranek's points," are they? Guess that's why its a team sport. Beranek would be a much better choice for Ricardo at this time - would probably rejuvenate him a bit, and Ed would learn so much from getting some reps in with a guy like Ricardo. Thoughts, Stevieofmb? I don't like Eric with Ricardo. I think Ricardo would probably be too demanding for someone as young as Eric and might do more damage than good. I prefer Eric playing with someone that would be more tolerant. That's why I think Field is doing so well with Bomgren.
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Post by stevieofmb on May 19, 2019 22:45:01 GMT -5
The Beranek/Lorentz result against Budinger/Friend has to be a little frustrating and concerning for those 2. Friend IMO is not even close a a main draw type player. Beranek/Lorenz were up 20-18 at the freeze. Tough loss but good learning experience for Eric.
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Post by beavis on May 19, 2019 23:09:21 GMT -5
Watching them take Friend/Budinger to three and losing 18-16 must have sucked for you, Stevie. I decided to go the NYC - you going? Will Beranek be there? I'll say hey and root for him if he is!
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Post by 405LAX on May 19, 2019 23:14:09 GMT -5
Watching them take Friend/Budinger to three and losing 18-16 must have sucked for you, Stevie. I decided to go the NYC - you going? Will Beranek be there? I'll say hey and root for him if he is! Beranek is in this for long haul I believe, should be on verge of landing points partner very soon.
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Post by guest2 on May 20, 2019 12:07:33 GMT -5
Watching them take Friend/Budinger to three and losing 18-16 must have sucked for you, Stevie. I decided to go the NYC - you going? Will Beranek be there? I'll say hey and root for him if he is! Beranek is in this for long haul I believe, should be on verge of landing points partner very soon. Something very screwy about the AVP points system. I checked to see who was in play for Eric and he is tied on points with Sauter. Beranek has qualified six of the past 8 or 9, whereas Sauter has gotten in 3 times + took an embarrassing loss in rd. 1 this weekend plus Beranek won a bunch of minor league event that count. Formula needs a rethink
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Post by JB Southpaw on May 20, 2019 12:24:55 GMT -5
Beranek is in this for long haul I believe, should be on verge of landing points partner very soon. Something very screwy about the AVP points system. I checked to see who was in play for Eric and he is tied on points with Sauter. Beranek has qualified six of the past 8 or 9, whereas Sauter has gotten in 3 times + took an embarrassing loss in rd. 1 this weekend plus Beranek won a bunch of minor league event that count. Formula needs a rethink I think 4 0f last 5 is too short too. It should just be 4 of best in last year, or a "season's worth" of tournaments. We'll see if Sauter can get in at NYC, if he doesn't that's going to knock him a bit, with not getting in this weekend.
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Post by 405LAX on May 20, 2019 12:30:06 GMT -5
Something very screwy about the AVP points system. I checked to see who was in play for Eric and he is tied on points with Sauter. Beranek has qualified six of the past 8 or 9, whereas Sauter has gotten in 3 times + took an embarrassing loss in rd. 1 this weekend plus Beranek won a bunch of minor league event that count. Formula needs a rethink I think 4 0f last 5 is too short too. It should just be 4 of best in last year, or a "season's worth" of tournaments. We'll see if Sauter can get in at NYC, if he doesn't that's going to knock him a bit, with not getting in this weekend. Sauter is so limited athletically, Vaught can't take that next step either.
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Post by JB Southpaw on May 20, 2019 12:51:30 GMT -5
I think 4 0f last 5 is too short too. It should just be 4 of best in last year, or a "season's worth" of tournaments. We'll see if Sauter can get in at NYC, if he doesn't that's going to knock him a bit, with not getting in this weekend. Sauter is so limited athletically, Vaught can't take that next step either. I feel like Vaught has been 22 years old for 4 years now. Jeez, still so young.
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Post by bombsaway on May 20, 2019 12:55:01 GMT -5
Feel like we are just gonna start seeing small ball where two dudes that can side out super effectively go for it rather than dealing with athletically shaky blockers who are inconsistent setters and passers lol. I bet if Vaught and someone who sides out well and jump serves on the left (like Dalanhese) teamed up they could get through without a lot of problems. So many points bled to bad passes and bad sets that a clean side out with a few great serves should be more than enough to make up for little to no block
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Post by 405LAX on May 20, 2019 13:06:31 GMT -5
Feel like we are just gonna start seeing small ball where two dudes that can side out super effectively go for it rather than dealing with athletically shaky blockers who are inconsistent setters and passers lol. I bet if Vaught and someone who sides out well and jump serves on the left (like Dalanhese) teamed up they could get through without a lot of problems. So many points bled to bad passes and bad sets that a clean side out with a few great serves should be more than enough to make up for little to no block And Vaught isn't some tiny guy, he's pretty long with long arms. Why not? Isn't working this way, change it up.
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Post by JB Southpaw on May 20, 2019 13:22:46 GMT -5
Feel like we are just gonna start seeing small ball where two dudes that can side out super effectively go for it rather than dealing with athletically shaky blockers who are inconsistent setters and passers lol. I bet if Vaught and someone who sides out well and jump serves on the left (like Dalanhese) teamed up they could get through without a lot of problems. So many points bled to bad passes and bad sets that a clean side out with a few great serves should be more than enough to make up for little to no block Even if you are great at siding out you still need a way to score, so yeah, have a team that can fire away from the baseline. Look at Gabe and Paul beating Jake and Tayor, they really went after them serving. I'd like to see Phil and Nick do that too. They aren't scoring enough points by blocking and defense vs. their side out game right now against great teams. They need to force these teams into tough out of system plays. Take the Field/Bomgren vs. Casebeer/Chaim match. Troy and Tim didn't serve hard, and missed a ton, so the serves they got in were quite easy for J&C to stay in system, and they destroyed them.
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