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Post by n00b on Aug 3, 2019 22:28:27 GMT -5
I don't love Karch's strategy in this tournament of rotating outsides. It's three matches. Not exhausting. Play your best lineup. Truly the most important post in the thread, and it's only 8 posts into the thread. Right. That was pre-match, before anything ever got dicey. If Hill and Larson won the starting spots based on practice, I’m totally good with that but they should’ve been playing against Kazakhstan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 22:29:03 GMT -5
Who are the best OHs, however? KRob is playing like it right now, but Hill and Bartsch (and Larson, of course) have had that status, too.
Nothing wrong with going with the hot hand. Same with the opposite.
Karch would be crucified on this board if he stuck with players and they lost. Tonight, Hill couldn't put the ball away at the end of g3. It turned out to be the right move to pull her.
(Of course, Karch will be knocked no matter what he does.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 22:30:06 GMT -5
OH is where the USA has the most depth. It's not odd at all for them to use that depth.
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 3, 2019 22:30:32 GMT -5
Did you watch Bulgaria today? Granted, they didn't win, but their distribution to the middles was superior to ours. And yes, lots of teams emphasize greater production from their middles than USA does. Greater, maybe. But no one runs their offense through their middles. No one who wants to win anyhow. It's low percentage volleyball. Btw, watch the match. Bulgaria wasn't leaving Dixon alone. If she was awful, they'd totally ignore her. She was drawing the block. Team USA's strength, offensively, is their pins. No shame in that. I didn't criticize Dixon. She's a solid player, not spectacular but very steady and low-error. And my original post, that you responded to, was a rebuttal to the poster who suggested that Carlini (and Poulter) would develop better connections with the middles.
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Post by n00b on Aug 3, 2019 22:30:50 GMT -5
Did you watch Bulgaria today? Granted, they didn't win, but their distribution to the middles was superior to ours. And yes, lots of teams emphasize greater production from their middles than USA does. Greater, maybe. But no one runs their offense through their middles. No one who wants to win anyhow. It's low percentage volleyball. Btw, watch the match. Bulgaria wasn't leaving Dixon alone. If she was awful, they'd totally ignore her. She was drawing the block. Team USA's strength, offensively, is their pins. No shame in that. Pin. Singular. Just the left. We set a ton of balls to Thompson, but she was also very inefficient.
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Post by ToddyJ on Aug 3, 2019 22:33:47 GMT -5
Did you watch Bulgaria today? Granted, they didn't win, but their distribution to the middles was superior to ours. And yes, lots of teams emphasize greater production from their middles than USA does. Greater, maybe. But no one runs their offense through their middles. No one who wants to win anyhow. It's low percentage volleyball. Btw, watch the match. Bulgaria wasn't leaving Dixon alone. If she was awful, they'd totally ignore her. She was drawing the block. Team USA's strength, offensively, is their pins. No shame in that. Tangotango could learn a thing or three from this post. 😜😊😉
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Post by n00b on Aug 3, 2019 22:35:02 GMT -5
Who are the best OHs, however? KRob is playing like it right now, but Hill and Bartsch (and Larson, of course) have had that status, too. Nothing wrong with going with the hot hand. Same with the opposite. Karch would be crucified on this board if he stuck with players and they lost. Tonight, Hill couldn't put the ball away at the end of g3. It turned out to be the right move to pull her. (Of course, Karch will be knocked no matter what he does.) I think we’re talking about different things. Playing the hot hand, great. Honestly, pick any of the two OHs and I wouldn’t have a complaint. But Robinson and Bartsch were lights out yesterday, then didn’t start today. It was clearly he strategy to treat this like a VNL weekend and just rotate everybody through to give them a chance. If you’re putting your best lineup out there, you don’t leave an OH out of the starting lineup a day after they hit .600 and pass almost 100% perfect.
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 3, 2019 22:39:11 GMT -5
Greater, maybe. But no one runs their offense through their middles. No one who wants to win anyhow. It's low percentage volleyball. Btw, watch the match. Bulgaria wasn't leaving Dixon alone. If she was awful, they'd totally ignore her. She was drawing the block. Team USA's strength, offensively, is their pins. No shame in that. Tangotango could learn a thing or three from this post. 😜😊😉 Except he was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 22:39:13 GMT -5
If you’re putting your best lineup out there, you don’t leave an OH out of the starting lineup a day after they hit .600 and pass almost 100% perfect. True. But you'll grant that Kaz is no where near the team Bulgaria is, right?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 22:40:09 GMT -5
Tangotango could learn a thing or three from this post. 😜😊😉 Except he was wrong. No, I wasn't. Who runs their offense through their middles? Not Bulgaria, btw.
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Post by n00b on Aug 3, 2019 22:44:29 GMT -5
If you’re putting your best lineup out there, you don’t leave an OH out of the starting lineup a day after they hit .600 and pass almost 100% perfect. True. But you'll grant that Kaz is no where near the team Bulgaria is, right? Totally. For as experienced as Hill is, I just think it’s a risky strategy for her first competitive match this YEAR with Team USA to be such a high-leverage match.
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Post by Disc808 on Aug 3, 2019 22:47:06 GMT -5
Would you be defending Dixon so incessantly if you weren’t a homer as well? Yes. And I'll defend Lloyd and Larson (and many others, too). It is true that it's more personal for me, having followed players like Dixon and Gibbemeyer for as long as I have. But you don't see me making wild claims like the ones being made about Rettke and Washington. And "incessantly"? Give me a break. Calm down sis don't get all worked up on me, Im not even hating on Dixon. No one is saying that these players aren't working hard enough, haven't put the work in, etc. Sure, maybe people are exaggerating. However, I don't think it's unfair to criticize players, coaches, etc. I also don't think it's unfair, as a fan, to expect the best players to represent the USA especially if gold is our expectation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 22:48:55 GMT -5
Sis? Incessantly? You're the one who needs to calm down.
And way to totally misrepresent my opinion, Sis. "Awful" was the term I objected to. Whatever.
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Post by ToddyJ on Aug 3, 2019 22:49:21 GMT -5
Tangotango could learn a thing or three from this post. 😜😊😉 Except he was wrong. Oh honey I don’t care if he is right or wrong....I just love to tease trash posters like Tango because their posts are garbage concerning many members of this team. I am thankful for this infusion of youth ESPECIALLY today. If we still had the predominantly old vets crew we likely would have lost today in 4 and had to qualify through NORCECA Continental Qualification. Not having Chiaka hurt us today but we got through it. Carlini does need to adjust her connections with the middles but it is COMPLETELY unlikely to be able to run a middle dominant offense ALL OF THE TIME. Those of you who beat this topic to death are pretty lame. Get on the excitement train.....all the cool folks are doing it.
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 3, 2019 22:51:03 GMT -5
No, I wasn't. Who runs their offense through their middles? Not Bulgaria, btw. You are confused. I never said anything about running the offense through the middles. You said that. My comment was that Karch wasn't going to emphasize more production from the middles than he already does, so with only a few playing opportunities left, it was unlikely that the setters would be able to improve the connection with the middles between now and the Olympics.
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