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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 8:57:46 GMT -5
The thing about Foecke is that there is every reason to believe the other Husker hitters benefited from her attacking; i.e., the opponent focus was not on Sweet or the M2 or even Sun. I'd wager even Stivrins benefited. To assume that the others will pick it up a notch and replace her offense seems optimistic. Take Maloney out of there, too, and I expect Nebraska is going to struggle. At least to start. Every year we lose players, good players, and Cook seems to bring it. For the last two seasons, I had expected this exact scenario, that we are going to struggle now without xplayer. If it happens this year, then Foecke and Maloney were a major factor. Though I like following trends and Cook's trend couldn't be more consistent. If I put money on it, I'd say we don't struggle. Cook is just that good. I totally agree with this. He tinkers and by the end of the season Nebraska is consistently one of the best. But, again, I'm not talking about the end of the season. I'm talking about their chances of beating Stanford in September. Nebraska is NOT consistently excellent early in the season, especially in seasons with major transitions like this one. As a matter of fact, they've been consistently inconsistent the last few years. This is not a bad thing. It is not even a criticism. It's an observation. I think it would be a major upset for Nebraska to beat Stanford in the preseason, even in Lincoln.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 8:59:30 GMT -5
I think Nebraska vs. Stanford in September is exciting. Will be a coaching match, IMO. I'll take Nebraska 3-2 This opinion. I disagree. Strongly. If it happens, that's on Hambley. Or a flat out upset. They happen. Stanford should be markedly better than Nebraska, in September.
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Post by volleyfan1994 on Aug 15, 2019 9:22:29 GMT -5
Despite losing Atkinson's production, I still expected to see Purdue a little bit higher. Grace Cleveland and Caitlyn Newton both have really good chances to step up big time after showing flashes last season.
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Post by maplespear on Aug 15, 2019 9:48:32 GMT -5
I think Nebraska vs. Stanford in September is exciting. Will be a coaching match, IMO. I'll take Nebraska 3-2 This opinion. I disagree. Strongly. If it happens, that's on Hambley. Or a flat out upset. They happen. Stanford should be markedly better than Nebraska, in September. I don't know, that's why I said it's gonna a coaching match. I think our defense is gonna be strong, knuckes, miller, hell even Hames and Sun. But then Stanford have Hentz. Dam, will be a really good game.
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Post by nothingbutcorn on Aug 15, 2019 10:03:04 GMT -5
What will benefit NE is the fact Knuckles, and Kubik the most likely replacements for Maloney, and Foecke have been with the program since January. As a group they went to Asia. This team should be off to a quicker start than last year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 14:25:26 GMT -5
I think Nebraska vs. Stanford in September is exciting. Will be a coaching match, IMO. I'll take Nebraska 3-2 I will take Tree in a sweep.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 15, 2019 15:20:02 GMT -5
Foecke had 28% of the Husker attacks and 29% of their kills. And quite a lot of it was needed to overcome the 2145 swings that were taken by people who hit .195 combined. Bump that up to just .245 combined and that's a 107 seven extra kills over the season. Foecke hit .317 for the season on 1297 swings. If those 2145 swings would have improved by just .05, Foecke could have hit .234 and Nebraska would have had the same offense. Improve by just .02 and then she just has to hit .283. Yes, Mikaela Foecke was one of the best to ever wear a Nebraska uniform. And yes, her presence will be sorely missed. But, people really underestimate the potential of aggregate improvement. Will it happen? I have no idea, but it sure isn't an impossible task. Well, your metric is off. If you are looking at production for the season, you should include results for the season. On the season Nebraska lost 6 matches entering the tournament and almost lost another two to Creighton and Penn State. If you are arguing that we should be looking at the Nebraska team that ended the season, then we should be looking at tournament stats. Was Foecke 28% of the Nebraska offense then? Did everyone else hit a combined .195 during that span? I don't know the numbers, but I doubt it.
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Post by volleylbc on Aug 15, 2019 15:26:10 GMT -5
I think Nebraska vs. Stanford in September is exciting. Will be a coaching match, IMO. I'll take Nebraska 3-2 I will take Tree in a sweep. I don’t mind a loss in Sept, all I care about is the BIG WIN in DECEMBER.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 15:50:23 GMT -5
I will take Tree in a sweep. I don’t mind a loss in Sept, all I care about is the BIG WIN in DECEMBER. I will take them in a sweep in December, too. OK, maybe in 4
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Post by huskergeek on Aug 15, 2019 20:29:04 GMT -5
And quite a lot of it was needed to overcome the 2145 swings that were taken by people who hit .195 combined. Bump that up to just .245 combined and that's a 107 seven extra kills over the season. Foecke hit .317 for the season on 1297 swings. If those 2145 swings would have improved by just .05, Foecke could have hit .234 and Nebraska would have had the same offense. Improve by just .02 and then she just has to hit .283. Yes, Mikaela Foecke was one of the best to ever wear a Nebraska uniform. And yes, her presence will be sorely missed. But, people really underestimate the potential of aggregate improvement. Will it happen? I have no idea, but it sure isn't an impossible task. Well, your metric is off. If you are looking at production for the season, you should include results for the season. On the season Nebraska lost 6 matches entering the tournament and almost lost another two to Creighton and Penn State. If you are arguing that we should be looking at the Nebraska team that ended the season, then we should be looking at tournament stats. Was Foecke 28% of the Nebraska offense then? Did everyone else hit a combined .195 during that span? I don't know the numbers, but I doubt it. You are completely right. Those players lit it up to the tune of .196 in the tournament.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Aug 22, 2019 6:43:34 GMT -5
Wisconsin also hit at a slightly higher percentage in conference than Illinois did with Poulter setting. I expect IL will have a little drop off, though that depends on their passing and what it allows them to run. UW should be better. With Barnes in the backrow, passing should improve, become more consistent. Haggerty was coming off an injury last year and everyone could see it affected her. One year further on I expect to see a better Haggerty. Loberg struggled with an problem all through the first half of the season. Illinois was better defensively; UW struggled for much of the year in that regard. Not sure what will happen there. The two teams are different, but extraordinarily evenly matched last year. But these arguments are pointless. Every year the preseason AVCA ranking is a weird poorly thought out mismash of what happened last year, and what will happen this year. No sense making sense of them. Just how close were the 2 teams last year? Wisconsin and Illinois played 972 points last year. Wisconsin Won 487 and Illinois won 485.
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 22, 2019 8:20:20 GMT -5
This opinion. I disagree. Strongly. If it happens, that's on Hambley. Or a flat out upset. They happen. Stanford should be markedly better than Nebraska, in September. I don't know, that's why I said it's gonna a coaching match. I think our defense is gonna be strong, knuckes, miller, hell even Hames and Sun. But then Stanford have Hentz. Dam, will be a really good game. Stanford will have the better libero, and probably the better passing outside in McClure. Unless kubik is insanely good in serve receive cause McClures ball control is her strongest asset to the card. Stanford only graduated 1 starter and they brought in 4 top 10 recruits and a 2nd team AA transfer. On paper, If Nebraska takes a set, it would be shocking
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Post by sunger4222 on Aug 22, 2019 8:37:34 GMT -5
Stanford is the pick of the litter this season, and while upsets and momentum shifts can always happen, the season is theirs to take. Certainly there are other good teams across the country, but most would need to play nearly flawless VB while the Cardinal just need to be normal. I'm pulling for SC to hand them a loss, but it is a bit of a long shot. The Trojans have the talent, but do they have the discipline to hang tough when the sets are on the line? Last season SC should have taken the match in Palo Alto, but they tightened up towards the end of sets 1 and 2, and Stanford played like the champs they were. I'm looking forward to the season, so lets get it started.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 12:13:26 GMT -5
Wisconsin also hit at a slightly higher percentage in conference than Illinois did with Poulter setting. I expect IL will have a little drop off, though that depends on their passing and what it allows them to run. UW should be better. With Barnes in the backrow, passing should improve, become more consistent. Haggerty was coming off an injury last year and everyone could see it affected her. One year further on I expect to see a better Haggerty. Loberg struggled with an problem all through the first half of the season. Illinois was better defensively; UW struggled for much of the year in that regard. Not sure what will happen there. The two teams are different, but extraordinarily evenly matched last year. But these arguments are pointless. Every year the preseason AVCA ranking is a weird poorly thought out mismash of what happened last year, and what will happen this year. No sense making sense of them. Just how close were the 2 teams last year? Wisconsin and Illinois played 972 points last year. Wisconsin Won 487 and Illinois won 485. Dividing by 50 points per set, that would be more than 19 sets. Or otherwise some extraordinarily high scoring matches. Can that possibly be right?
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Post by TuesdayGone on Aug 22, 2019 12:46:08 GMT -5
Last season SC should have taken the match in Palo Alto, but they tightened up towards the end of sets 1 and 2, and Stanford played like the champs they were. That is how Stanford has played consistently for at least the last two years. They don't over extend themselves and crush teams. They are happy to trade points until 18 or 20 and then step up and score when it matters. It happens over and over so it is not a fluke. Kinda disturbing, actually. I'm very curious what happens next year, when the kids have learned to play that way, but you no longer have the big four that can actually pull it off. I thought Minnesota outplayed Stanford at Stanford last year....but the final few points of each set Stanford won. Great match though
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