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Post by blackiechan1999 on Oct 25, 2019 19:39:18 GMT -5
Or, so folks on here want to believe. You don't produce the All-Americans at middle blocker just about every season over the last decade-plus if your passing is "infamously bad". Has it been great? No. Nobody's has give or take a couple of seasons here and there.
For all those "great" passing teams/programs you can list, I'm sure Texas has beaten just about every single one of them a time or two over the last 15 years.
Great passing by Texas in a match is like Jupiter orbiting the Sun--it only comes around once a decade or so. I don’t understand why Texas is the team known for bad passing it seems like a lot of the top teams are having their own woes with passing this season.
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Post by kokyu on Oct 25, 2019 19:40:21 GMT -5
She should be dominating internationally right now if this country's talent in developing talent weren't so few far between. That's RIGHT, she should transfer to...Brazil, Japan, Turkey...and maybe Russia in that order! Long term barring a miracle in management change for USA, she should consider switching citizenship if she wants to win Olympic Gold. Brazil needs a good opp.
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Post by oldunc on Oct 25, 2019 19:45:35 GMT -5
^ right. just like you can't watch a guy flip a coin tails 5 times in a row, and depend on it. But it happens all the time, and it does so in volleyball matches too. Runs occur on both sides, all the time, for no particular reason. Well, to some extent, but not runs that long against teams like Stanford. Usually, there is a reason, like the passing giving out or a poor offensive rotation, but that really wasn't the case here; Stanford had plenty of good options and out of 12 serves there was one ace and two bad passes- there were plenty of chances for Stanford to score. What did happen was, aside from a bit of buzzard luck, Texas making a match's worth of defensive plays in one run, feeding their ever-dependable transition offense, and Stanford not defending so great. Somewhere there's probably a data base that could tell you how often Stanford (or any other top team) has given up 13 point runs- I'm not it, but there haven't been many, possibly none.
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Post by horns1 on Oct 25, 2019 19:48:31 GMT -5
Or, so folks on here want to believe. You don't produce the All-Americans at middle blocker just about every season over the last decade-plus if your passing is "infamously bad". Has it been great? No. Nobody's has give or take a couple of seasons here and there.
For all those "great" passing teams/programs you can list, I'm sure Texas has beaten just about every single one of them a time or two over the last 15 years.
You're right. Great passing by Texas in a match is like Jupiter orbiting the Sun--it only comes around once a decade or so. If only your useless posts were that infrequent . . .
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 25, 2019 19:48:50 GMT -5
Great passing by Texas in a match is like Jupiter orbiting the Sun--it only comes around once a decade or so. I don’t understand why Texas is the team known for bad passing it seems like a lot of the top teams are having their own woes with passing this season. Texas has had some phenomenal physical talent for a decade or more, probably more than any other program. Their success in that time has earned them a reputation as an elite program--and they are--but there is no question that consistent bad passing has prevented them from realizing the full potential of that level of talent.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Oct 25, 2019 19:49:40 GMT -5
Great passing by Texas in a match is like Jupiter orbiting the Sun--it only comes around once a decade or so. I don’t understand why Texas is the team known for bad passing it seems like a lot of the top teams are having their own woes with passing this season. I’ve been saying this.
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 25, 2019 19:52:04 GMT -5
I don’t understand why Texas is the team known for bad passing it seems like a lot of the top teams are having their own woes with passing this season. I’ve been saying this. Well then at least two people are misinformed.
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Post by oldunc on Oct 25, 2019 19:58:21 GMT -5
Nobody is ever satisfied with their passing- well, WSU coach Jen Greeney did express satisfaction with her team's passing after a run of good matches- they immediately went out and passed like bandicoots the next match. But Texas not passing well and Nebraska not passing well doesn't really look the same.
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Post by horns1 on Oct 25, 2019 19:59:35 GMT -5
If only we could get a list of the "great" passing teams/programs out there, year-in and year-out. Not sure I've ever seen one.
I acknowledge that we aren't a "great" passing team. But, we are not a bad passing team as a whole over the course of an entire season. A "bad" passing team is what we saw in Baylor on Wednesday (albeit for one 3-set match).
We are as susceptible as every team out there as to when our serve-receive breaks down for a long stretch during a set, or even the entire set. I don't recall many matches where our serve-receive looked like Baylor's did the other day.
Folks/coaches always say that it all starts with serving and passing. If we were so "infamously bad" in those areas, no way would we have the success we've enjoyed the last 15-20 years. Yes, if our passing was better, we'd have even more success; whose wouldn't?
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 25, 2019 19:59:55 GMT -5
Why the hell is this match thread still on the front page. Wasn't the match 12 years ago?
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Post by yupyupyup on Oct 25, 2019 20:59:13 GMT -5
After consideration, next season Butler needs to go to PSU, Illinois, or WSU preferably in that order. Can I ask what your background in volleyball is? Have you played/coached?
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 25, 2019 21:04:17 GMT -5
After consideration, next season Butler needs to go to PSU, Illinois, or WSU preferably in that order. Can I ask what your background in volleyball is? Have you played/coached? He has absolutely no clue. Disregard everything he says without exception.
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Post by dunninla3 on Oct 25, 2019 21:06:40 GMT -5
Re: Texas passing:
There are a couple of plausible reasons for this, and I didn't follow them so I don't know. Asking a legit question --
Does Texas recruit OH prioritizing sideout capability over 6 rotation balance? (Example... UT gets a commit from a phenomenal sideout player who cannot pass well, then instead of targeting for the next OH a 6 rotation OH, they go get ANOTHER OH who isn't 6 rotation capable?
Does Texas recruit the same as everybody else, but fail to develop the passing games in the OH it does land?
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 25, 2019 21:36:43 GMT -5
just a hunch... but Texas losing to Rice was the best thing that could have happened to them this year. They knew they were Final 4 material when they took Stanford to 5 sets, but clearly got a little complacent going into the Rice game. Since their loss to Rice, they've lost a total of 1 set over eight matches. The train is gaining momentum at a good time. I'm not so sure that the takeaway from the Stanford match is so straightforward. Certainly the match reflected no glory on Stanford, who were non competitive in the first set, but that's been a theme all year long. The next three sets were pretty much a walkover for Stanford other than a freak 13 point Texas run in the fourth set (71 pts to 41).; hard to draw any real conclusion from that Eh, I don't really buy this. The first set counts as much as any other (probably more in some ways, as I imagine teams that win the first set win more often than teams that don't). And "freak run" or not, the fourth set counts also. If you say, "Well, outside of the times when one team was playing really well, the other team dominated," you can make nearly any match seem as one-sided or not as you like. One could also point out that the match was on the road, and Texas was missing Butler. Had it been on a neutral floor with her healthy, perhaps Texas wins outright. Who knows? Anyway, I agree with the previous poster that playing Stanford so close had to give Texas some confidence (whether it's misplaced in your view or not is kind of immaterial--what's important is how they felt about it). That was also Stanford's best match of the season from a hitting percentage standpoint against any of the really good opponents that they've played (they hit .372), and Texas hung in there, hitting .309 themselves.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 25, 2019 21:44:56 GMT -5
By God, some guys are STILL bangin' around this beaten-to-death, refuses-to-die, won't-go-quietly-into-the-night match thread: from 2 nights ago? With All the marquee matches tonight?
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