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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 21, 2019 21:16:37 GMT -5
I clicked on the Live Stats to check the score and it said the event hasn't started yet. So, I checked the scheduled date, Wednesday, 10/23, 5 PM (PT), and I was like, "Okay, that's today. The match should be 2 hours in already. What gives?!?!"
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Post by hammer on Oct 21, 2019 21:22:01 GMT -5
I clicked on the Live Stats to check the score and it said the event hasn't started yet. So, I checked the scheduled date, Wednesday, 10/23, 5 PM (PT), and I was like, "Okay, that's today. The match should be 2 hours in already. What gives?!?!" This proves you are time traveler moving back and forth in time, but not knowing at what point in time you are at?
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Post by huskerrob on Oct 21, 2019 21:25:38 GMT -5
Says who? Two losses to the #1 team in the country doesn't hurt our SOS, that's for sure. And, you are assuming all teams competing with Texas for a regional host spot will be going undefeated the rest of the season; not happening. Do you happen to know the tiebreakers for the AQ spot if Texas and Baylor split their two games and win all the rest? As far as I am aware, Big12 doesn't allow OoC games to count even in the event of a tie breaker, they will both be Big12 Champs. BUT!!!!! the committee will decide which of the two will get the auto bid for being Big12 Conf Champs which will include the OoC game results to establish this....and in this case, Baylor would win due to it not losing a OoC match (especially to Rice). Thus why Baylor wins all tie breakers =) 2008 had Neb & Texas tied w/the same In Conf Record, both were awarded Big12 Champs by the Conf, but in the Tourni, Nebraska was awarded the Automatic bid (for being Big12 Champ) and Texas was awarded the 'at large' bid, because Neb had the better total record. Oddly Neb was RPI #3 & Texas #4 yet Texas was seeded as 3 & Neb as 4. The previous year both Neb & Texas had also tied and both awarded the Big12 Conf Champ, but unlike the 2008 Tourni, in 2007 they both were awarded the automatic bid, and sent to two different Regionals. I would wager something changed in the committee's rules after this season and before the 2008 tournament. I don't believe the Big12 has changed its rules since 2010 which had the rule changes to account for there only being 10 teams in the conference.
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 21, 2019 21:30:38 GMT -5
I clicked on the Live Stats to check the score and it said the event hasn't started yet. So, I checked the scheduled date, Wednesday, 10/23, 5 PM (PT), and I was like, "Okay, that's today. The match should be 2 hours in already. What gives?!?!" This proves you are time traveler moving back and forth in time, but not knowing at what point in time you are at? Yes, that is what it proves.
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Post by tempesthorn on Oct 21, 2019 21:51:25 GMT -5
Do you happen to know the tiebreakers for the AQ spot if Texas and Baylor split their two games and win all the rest? As far as I am aware, Big12 doesn't allow OoC games to count even in the event of a tie breaker, they will both be Big12 Champs. BUT!!!!! the committee will decide which of the two will get the auto bid for being Big12 Conf Champs which will include the OoC game results to establish this....and in this case, Baylor would win due to it not losing a OoC match (especially to Rice). Thus why Baylor wins all tie breakers =) 2008 had Neb & Texas tied w/the same In Conf Record, both were awarded Big12 Champs by the Conf, but in the Tourni, Nebraska was awarded the Automatic bid (for being Big12 Champ) and Texas was awarded the 'at large' bid, because Neb had the better total record. Oddly Neb was RPI #3 & Texas #4 yet Texas was seeded as 3 & Neb as 4. The previous year both Neb & Texas had also tied and both awarded the Big12 Conf Champ, but unlike the 2008 Tourni, in 2007 they both were awarded the automatic bid, and sent to two different Regionals. I would wager something changed in the committee's rules after this season and before the 2008 tournament. I don't believe the Big12 has changed its rules since 2010 which had the rule changes to account for there only being 10 teams in the conference. journalstar.com/sports/huskers/volleyball/cooper-out-for-remainder-of-season/article_63f1efcb-b561-5397-ba7c-49ebdd0df83c.htmlI’m pretty sure it’s sets won then points scored (rallies won). I included the link from your hometown paper to prove to everyone the bullish!t you just made up.
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Post by honore on Oct 21, 2019 22:03:48 GMT -5
I guess you don't get to watch. I just signed up for Vue trial and can't seem to find Longhorn network in my channel list (nor bring up anything useful in searches), and when I go to espn and try to watch something on longhorn network the login to Vue keeps failing. I guess I'll try again Wednesday but it sure is frustrating. I believe you must add the Sports Package ($10) to your subscription choice. That package includes LongHorn Network. I also checked ESPN+ and unfortunately they will not show that game. They are known to show games/sports that are not widely followed. At $5/month it would be worthwhile just to watch one game. I think I scored Baylor-Hawaii on ESPN+.
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 21, 2019 22:04:03 GMT -5
Do you happen to know the tiebreakers for the AQ spot if Texas and Baylor split their two games and win all the rest? As far as I am aware, Big12 doesn't allow OoC games to count even in the event of a tie breaker, they will both be Big12 Champs. BUT!!!!! the committee will decide which of the two will get the auto bid for being Big12 Conf Champs which will include the OoC game results to establish this....and in this case, Baylor would win due to it not losing a OoC match (especially to Rice). Thus why Baylor wins all tie breakers =) 2008 had Neb & Texas tied w/the same In Conf Record, both were awarded Big12 Champs by the Conf, but in the Tourni, Nebraska was awarded the Automatic bid (for being Big12 Champ) and Texas was awarded the 'at large' bid, because Neb had the better total record. Oddly Neb was RPI #3 & Texas #4 yet Texas was seeded as 3 & Neb as 4. The previous year both Neb & Texas had also tied and both awarded the Big12 Conf Champ, but unlike the 2008 Tourni, in 2007 they both were awarded the automatic bid, and sent to two different Regionals. I would wager something changed in the committee's rules after this season and before the 2008 tournament. I don't believe the Big12 has changed its rules since 2010 which had the rule changes to account for there only being 10 teams in the conference. Under the scenario I listed, I'm sure they will be listed as co-champions. However the conference will have to declare one as the automatic qualifier. This is done by the conference, not the NCAA committee. That would have also been the case in both 2007 & 2008. One of the teams each year would have been the automatic qualifier as a conference cannot have two AQs. In the cases that being discussed, who is the AQ and who's not is/was more of a technicality rather than a designation of any practical significance due to the rankings of the teams.
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 21, 2019 22:07:52 GMT -5
As far as I am aware, Big12 doesn't allow OoC games to count even in the event of a tie breaker, they will both be Big12 Champs. BUT!!!!! the committee will decide which of the two will get the auto bid for being Big12 Conf Champs which will include the OoC game results to establish this....and in this case, Baylor would win due to it not losing a OoC match (especially to Rice). Thus why Baylor wins all tie breakers =) 2008 had Neb & Texas tied w/the same In Conf Record, both were awarded Big12 Champs by the Conf, but in the Tourni, Nebraska was awarded the Automatic bid (for being Big12 Champ) and Texas was awarded the 'at large' bid, because Neb had the better total record. Oddly Neb was RPI #3 & Texas #4 yet Texas was seeded as 3 & Neb as 4. The previous year both Neb & Texas had also tied and both awarded the Big12 Conf Champ, but unlike the 2008 Tourni, in 2007 they both were awarded the automatic bid, and sent to two different Regionals. I would wager something changed in the committee's rules after this season and before the 2008 tournament. I don't believe the Big12 has changed its rules since 2010 which had the rule changes to account for there only being 10 teams in the conference. journalstar.com/sports/huskers/volleyball/cooper-out-for-remainder-of-season/article_63f1efcb-b561-5397-ba7c-49ebdd0df83c.htmlI’m pretty sure it’s sets won then points scored (rallies won). I included the link from your hometown paper to prove to everyone the bullish!t you just made up. Yeah, it was easy to tell all of that was pulled out of his XXX. Yes, sets won head to head and then points head to head would be logical as the tie breakers. For the year mentioned in the article, I'm going to assume they tied on sets and therefore had to go to points.
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Post by Kingsley on Oct 21, 2019 22:08:37 GMT -5
As far as I am aware, Big12 doesn't allow OoC games to count even in the event of a tie breaker, they will both be Big12 Champs. BUT!!!!! the committee will decide which of the two will get the auto bid for being Big12 Conf Champs which will include the OoC game results to establish this....and in this case, Baylor would win due to it not losing a OoC match (especially to Rice). Thus why Baylor wins all tie breakers =) 2008 had Neb & Texas tied w/the same In Conf Record, both were awarded Big12 Champs by the Conf, but in the Tourni, Nebraska was awarded the Automatic bid (for being Big12 Champ) and Texas was awarded the 'at large' bid, because Neb had the better total record. Oddly Neb was RPI #3 & Texas #4 yet Texas was seeded as 3 & Neb as 4. The previous year both Neb & Texas had also tied and both awarded the Big12 Conf Champ, but unlike the 2008 Tourni, in 2007 they both were awarded the automatic bid, and sent to two different Regionals. I would wager something changed in the committee's rules after this season and before the 2008 tournament. I don't believe the Big12 has changed its rules since 2010 which had the rule changes to account for there only being 10 teams in the conference. journalstar.com/sports/huskers/volleyball/cooper-out-for-remainder-of-season/article_63f1efcb-b561-5397-ba7c-49ebdd0df83c.htmlI’m pretty sure it’s sets won then points scored (rallies won). I included the link from your hometown paper to prove to everyone the bullish!t you just made up. I will trust your sentiment here, because I'm not about to navigate through the minefield of ads on the Journal Star website. I know this all too well.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Oct 21, 2019 23:37:06 GMT -5
| BAYLOR | TEXAS | Kills/set | 14.9 | 14.3 | Digs/set | 14.6 | 13.2 | Blocks/set | 2.8 | 2.3 | Aces/set | 1.0 | 1.5 | Assists/set | 13.8 | 13.5 | Hitting pct. | .310 | .328 | Opp. Hitting pct. | .146 | .207 |
Middles | Shelly Stafford | Kara McGhee | Brionne Butler | Asjia O'neal | Kills/set | 2.94 | 1.58 | 2.54 | 1.47 | Hitting pct. | .394 | .294 | .472 | .406 | Blocks/set | 1.12 | 1.38 | 1.23 | 0.94 |
Opposites | Marieke van der Mark | Skylar Fields | Kills/set | 1.44 | 2.84 | Hitting pct. | .321 | .356 | Blocks/set | 0.90 | 0.94 |
Outside Hitters | Yossi Pressley | Gia Milana | Micaya White | Logan Eggleston | Kills/set | 5.74 | 2.33 | 4.00 | 3.82 | Hitting pct. | .317 | .239 | .300 | .306 | Digs/set | 2.4 | 0.55 | 2.50 | 1.92 | Blocks/set | 0.51 | 0.31 | 0.58 | 0.30 | Aces/set | 0.15 | N/A | 0.30 | 0.52 |
Setters | Hannah Lockin | Jhenna Gabriel | Assists/set | 11.56 | 11.1 | Digs/set | 2.96 | 2.06 | Blocks/set | 0.92 | 0.18 | Kills/set | 0.98 | 0.20 | Hitting pct. | .375 | .152 | Aces/set | 0.28 | 0.20 |
Liberos | Tara Wulf | Sydney Petersen | Digs/set | 3.24 | 3.88 | RE/set | 0.28 | 0.26 | Aces/set | 0.12 | 0.08 | Assists/set | 1.04 | 1.14 |
Defensive Specialists | Braya Hunt | Shanel Bramschreiber | Claire Hahn | Digs/set | 2.38 | 1.60 | 1.56 | RE/set | 0.08 | 0.24 | 0.10 | Aces/set | 0.04 | 0.16 | 0.13 |
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| Kills/set | Yossi Pressley | 5.74 | Hitting pct. | Brionne Butler | .472 | Digs/set | Sydney Petersen | 3.88 | Blocks/set | Kara McGhee | 1.38 | Aces/set | Logan Eggleston | 0.52 |
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Post by esneed on Oct 21, 2019 23:55:22 GMT -5
Nice breakdown. I see the middles and kills from middle area be a factor (Pressley). Her attack from the back row is key.
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Post by dunninla3 on Oct 22, 2019 0:38:01 GMT -5
Bias is an interesting thing.
Texas has been better than Baylor for... ever really, in volleyball.
The same could be said in football, but y'all saw the whoopin Baylor put on Texas when RGIII came on the scene.
There is the unbiased Pablo, which seems to think Baylor is stronger than Texas. Why? I have no clue, but that's something.
My view having watched Baylor and Texas is that Baylor is a complete team, no weaknesses. Texas has the higher ranked athletes coming out of High School. But Texas has never been good defensively, so not a complete team.
Who wins? The complete, balance team with ath-a-letes one notch below, or the ath-a-letes on an unbalanced team?
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Post by jengal on Oct 22, 2019 0:43:48 GMT -5
I wish this match was on ESPN!!!
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Post by Captain on Oct 22, 2019 2:48:10 GMT -5
NCAA Article on the match:
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Post by des on Oct 22, 2019 3:17:51 GMT -5
Damn, those hitting stats for the outsides are amazing. Really excited to watch this match and how each team stack up against the other.
How about the coaches? Who could make in-game adjustments more effectively? And will it ultimately affect the result of this match?
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