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Post by trojansc on Oct 22, 2019 4:18:58 GMT -5
Do you happen to know the tiebreakers for the AQ spot if Texas and Baylor split their two games and win all the rest? As far as I am aware, Big12 doesn't allow OoC games to count even in the event of a tie breaker, they will both be Big12 Champs. BUT!!!!! (1) the committee will decide which of the two will get the auto bid for being Big12 Conf Champs which will include the OoC game results to establish this....and in this case, (2)Baylor would win due to it not losing a OoC match (especially to Rice). Thus why Baylor wins all tie breakers =) 2008 had Neb & Texas tied w/the same In Conf Record, both were awarded Big12 Champs by the Conf, but in the Tourni, (3)Nebraska was awarded the Automatic bid (for being Big12 Champ) and Texas was awarded the 'at large' bid, because Neb had the better total record. Oddly Neb was RPI #3 & Texas #4 yet Texas was seeded as 3 & Neb as 4. The previous year both Neb & Texas had also tied and both awarded the Big12 Conf Champ, but unlike the 2008 Tourni, in 2007 they both were awarded the automatic bid, and sent to two different Regionals. I would wager something changed in the committee's rules after this season and before the 2008 tournament. I don't believe the Big12 has changed its rules since 2010 which had the rule changes to account for there only being 10 teams in the conference. What the F**$k is in your pipe? It's not weed, because i smo... never mind. (1) No, The NCAA committee has NEVER determined an automatic qualifier. Conferences do that. (2) No, Baylor will not win a tie-breaker over Texas because of their non-conference. (3) No, Nebraska's record had no bearing on that. Nebraska won Big 12’s automatic berth based on the conference’s tiebreaker procedure. Both squads won in four sets on their respective home courts during the regular season, therefore the automatic qualifier was determined by total points scored in the series. In complete for both matches, Nebraska scored 184 points and Texas scored 179. (4) No, no conference gets MULTIPLE automatic bids. Nebraska won the automatic bid in 2007, Texas was an at-large.
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Post by huskerrob on Oct 22, 2019 4:32:50 GMT -5
As far as I am aware, Big12 doesn't allow OoC games to count even in the event of a tie breaker, they will both be Big12 Champs. BUT!!!!! the committee will decide which of the two will get the auto bid for being Big12 Conf Champs which will include the OoC game results to establish this....and in this case, Baylor would win due to it not losing a OoC match (especially to Rice). Thus why Baylor wins all tie breakers =) 2008 had Neb & Texas tied w/the same In Conf Record, both were awarded Big12 Champs by the Conf, but in the Tourni, Nebraska was awarded the Automatic bid (for being Big12 Champ) and Texas was awarded the 'at large' bid, because Neb had the better total record. Oddly Neb was RPI #3 & Texas #4 yet Texas was seeded as 3 & Neb as 4. The previous year both Neb & Texas had also tied and both awarded the Big12 Conf Champ, but unlike the 2008 Tourni, in 2007 they both were awarded the automatic bid, and sent to two different Regionals. I would wager something changed in the committee's rules after this season and before the 2008 tournament. I don't believe the Big12 has changed its rules since 2010 which had the rule changes to account for there only being 10 teams in the conference. journalstar.com/sports/huskers/volleyball/cooper-out-for-remainder-of-season/article_63f1efcb-b561-5397-ba7c-49ebdd0df83c.htmlI’m pretty sure it’s sets won then points scored (rallies won). I included the link from your hometown paper to prove to everyone the bullish!t you just made up. I didn't make this up as it is what google returns when you search for Big12 Volleyball Champion tie breaker rules(this and football rules)...the info I posted on Neb/Texas is straight out of Wiki on the National Championship Tournament under 2008 & 2007. but hey...you do you, and I will just ignore your posts in the future.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Oct 22, 2019 7:34:55 GMT -5
100% Texas homer perspective of this match Wed:
1) Texas has already played a #1 team this year. True, they lost. But that pressure has already been seen - Point Texas
2) They say that Baylor hasn't beaten Texas in 7 years. I've watched while the commentators have said that TCU or West Virginia or [name that team] haven't beaten Texas in [ever, many years] and watched as that team beat Texas. So, things never happen until suddenly, they do. - Two thumbs up, Do Over
3) Baylor has the better defense, which gives Texas trouble [UNI] - Point Baylor
4) Pressley hitting better than our players, but Texas has faced her 2 years so far. She's not a phenom we've never seen - Point Texas
5) We have the advantage in service aces, but I bet you we have the advantage in service errors - Point Baylor
6) Being played in Austin - Point Texas
7) Since the Minn game, Texas has never gotten flustered or lost their cool when behind in a set. But don't know how Baylor reacts when behind since I've seen no Baylor games - Two thumbs up, Do Over
8) They say that Baylor has an more rounded team. Good offense, good defense. While Texas has...... uhhh, good offense. My theory is that we have the "pick 3" offense. We have 5 good hitters: White, Eggleston, O'Neal, Fields, Butler. Not everyone can be good every game. We just need 3 of those 5 to be hitting over .300 this game and they mostly seem to do it - Point Texas
Homer guess: 3-1 Texas
(until it's not)
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 22, 2019 8:46:52 GMT -5
I didn't make this up as it is what google returns when you search for Big12 Volleyball Champion tie breaker rules(this and football rules)...the info I posted on Neb/Texas is straight out of Wiki on the National Championship Tournament under 2008 & 2007. but hey...you do you, and I will just ignore your posts in the future. I googled the same thing multiple times before asking the question. The search reveals nothing about volleyball tie breaker. Also the football tie breakers have changed at least three times since Nebraska left the conference and none of them would match a volleyball tie breaker. Also when Nebraska was in the conference, the football tie breakers were for division representative to the conference championship game and again wouldn't have been used for a volleyball championship that didn't use divisions.
Also using Wikipedia as an accurate source shows your level (low) of accurate research.
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Post by horns1 on Oct 22, 2019 9:17:33 GMT -5
No doubt Pressley will get her 4-5 kills per set as Baylor sets her so frequently. Fanning-Stafford is very experienced and consistent; so, I don't expect either of those two players to have off games offensively. The other 3 Baylor hitters are the key for a Baylor victory, IMO, especially Gia Milano; she has to produce for Baylor.
For Texas, have to limit our service errors so that we can get into a good flow and string some points together; when Texas serves well, the other parts of our game come together much quicker in the match.
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Post by tempesthorn on Oct 22, 2019 9:43:13 GMT -5
I didn't make this up as it is what google returns when you search for Big12 Volleyball Champion tie breaker rules(this and football rules)...the info I posted on Neb/Texas is straight out of Wiki on the National Championship Tournament under 2008 & 2007. but hey...you do you, and I will just ignore your posts in the future.
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 22, 2019 10:06:40 GMT -5
No doubt Pressley will get her 4-5 kills per set as Baylor sets her so frequently. Fanning-Stafford is very experienced and consistent; so, I don't expect either of those two players to have off games offensively. The other 3 Baylor hitters are the key for a Baylor victory, IMO, especially Gia Milano; she has to produce for Baylor. For Texas, have to limit our service errors so that we can get into a good flow and string some points together; when Texas serves well, the other parts of our game come together much quicker in the match. Would be nice to hold Pressley to hitting % of -.128 and +.051 as we did last year, but I think that's dreaming. However even with those low percentages, she still had 22 kills in 7 sets because she had 39 attempts in each match. So I expect our key will be to hold her to a fairly low percentage regardless of how many actual kills she gets.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Oct 22, 2019 10:46:35 GMT -5
No doubt Pressley will get her 4-5 kills per set as Baylor sets her so frequently. Fanning-Stafford is very experienced and consistent; so, I don't expect either of those two players to have off games offensively. The other 3 Baylor hitters are the key for a Baylor victory, IMO, especially Gia Milano; she has to produce for Baylor. For Texas, have to limit our service errors so that we can get into a good flow and string some points together; when Texas serves well, the other parts of our game come together much quicker in the match. Milana is averaging 3 kills/set in conference play, hitting .303. She’s stepped it up over the past few matches and will hopefully continue that. McGhee’s not a huge offensive threat though she is capable of putting up some kills. Had 11 against Hawai’i, 8 against Texas Tech. She’s there for her defense though. She’s averaging 1.78 blocks/set to lead the Big 12 in conference play. van der Mark is just about the same. She can really put the ball down but not always the most consistent. Better defensive player and gets a lot of block touches at 6’6. It’d be nice if she has a good offensive night. It helps that Lockin is an offensive setter and loves to send the ball over on two. She has a wide array of dumps and tips so look for her to go for some kills as well. She’s getting right about 1 kill/set.
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Post by huskerrob on Oct 22, 2019 10:48:03 GMT -5
I didn't make this up as it is what google returns when you search for Big12 Volleyball Champion tie breaker rules(this and football rules)...the info I posted on Neb/Texas is straight out of Wiki on the National Championship Tournament under 2008 & 2007. but hey...you do you, and I will just ignore your posts in the future. I googled the same thing multiple times before asking the question. The search reveals nothing about volleyball tie breaker. Also the football tie breakers have changed at least three times since Nebraska left the conference and none of them would match a volleyball tie breaker. Also when Nebraska was in the conference, the football tie breakers were for division representative to the conference championship game and again wouldn't have been used for a volleyball championship that didn't use divisions.
Also using Wikipedia as an accurate source shows your level (low) of accurate research.
I don't mind being told I am wrong, and shown where the errors are with more accurate information, as I learn something. I used the sources I had, which is what it is. Insults and the like are just a waste of my time, for which I would rather ignore everything about people who tend to use them, than waste those valuable seconds.
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Post by esneed on Oct 22, 2019 12:24:19 GMT -5
Every team’s goal is to slow Pressley down but no one has figured out how to effectively do that this season. She’s a much better player than she was a season ago- she’s managed to increase her kills/set while also raising her hitting percentage by over 10%. Yeah, I think one of the worst things to do is say "we're going to shut her down." She's too good of a player, she's going to get her kills. You gotta do your best to contain her but not go all-in. Fields will need to be on her game. You would hope that if Pressley decides to hit hard cross that Butler will be in the right position to take that space. I think Fields needs to do a better job at pushing over. If Jhenna gets into a rotation where she's being abused, Molly can come in to help. I would argue she's probably a better blocker than O'Neal and Fields. Fields as a freshman does not seem completely comfortable in her role. She's a very good player and was a game changer previous level. For Pressley and Baylor to win, the middle and back row attack from her will be key as I've been saying. Baylor is more balanced offensively and defensively as a unit.
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Post by Ons Jabeur on Oct 22, 2019 12:29:12 GMT -5
Lexi Sun will be the difference in this match.
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Post by hammer on Oct 22, 2019 12:43:28 GMT -5
Lexi Sun will be the difference in this match. Not sure if she would be starting if still at Texas -- maybe subbing in back row for Eggleston? Anyway, that's water under the bridge because as long as Lexi is happy ...
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Post by esneed on Oct 22, 2019 12:43:39 GMT -5
Lexi Sun will be the difference in this match. You mean lack of Lexi?
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Post by madonna on Oct 22, 2019 12:44:05 GMT -5
I'm going with Baylor sweeping Texas.
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Post by esneed on Oct 22, 2019 12:49:34 GMT -5
I don't know about sweep but win, yes.
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