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Post by pd154 on Nov 4, 2019 0:31:31 GMT -5
Stanford was in a tournament yesterday Sat Nov 1 VS CSUN, Cal Poly, and LMU. Sounded like LMU were Gold and Silver with Tia Miric and partner bronze. That's all i heard, don't know how Stanford finished up.
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Post by socalplayer on Nov 7, 2019 1:52:34 GMT -5
Question is why can’t Andrew Fuller recruit better players? UCLA’s bench is better than Stanford’s entire current team. Wonder how long Stanford will allow its beach team to under perform
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Post by diskprotek on Nov 8, 2019 16:54:49 GMT -5
Question is why can’t Andrew Fuller recruit better players? UCLA’s bench is better than Stanford’s entire current team. Wonder how long Stanford will allow its beach team to under perform Costs. Beach is an equivalency sport. When you only get 6 scholarships for 16-18 players, it goes a lot further at UCLA, especially for in-state players who pay in-state tuition.
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Post by collegebeachfan on Nov 8, 2019 22:08:50 GMT -5
Give Stanford some time. Most of the top players in this freshman class were already committed before Stanford had announced Fuller as the head coach, And I don’t think they got funded for max scholarships until recently (I’m not even sure if they are now). Plus Stanford admissions process is more of a challenge and longer wait which scares off some potential recruits. This is probably as big of a go forward issue as cost (ie cost of USC is as bad as Stanford, but they still attract a lot of walk-one).
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Post by butteryhands on Nov 9, 2019 8:53:38 GMT -5
Give Stanford some time. Most of the top players in this freshman class were already committed before Stanford had announced Fuller as the head coach, And I don’t think they got funded for max scholarships until recently (I’m not even sure if they are now). Plus Stanford admissions process is more of a challenge and longer wait which scares off some potential recruits. This is probably as big of a go forward issue as cost (ie cost of USC is as bad as Stanford, but they still attract a lot of walk-one). Definitely true, my friend's daughter was being recruited for next season but was told she would need to take a very heavy load of AP classes to meet admissions standards despite her 3.9 GPA. She didn't want to have that difficult of a senior year so she chose to go to a different school next year.
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Post by woodandsand on Nov 9, 2019 10:06:44 GMT -5
Weren't the Nourse Twins supposed to be headed to Stanford at one point in time?
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Post by dunninla3 on Nov 9, 2019 11:33:17 GMT -5
Give Stanford some time. Most of the top players in this freshman class were already committed before Stanford had announced Fuller as the head coach, And I don’t think they got funded for max scholarships until recently (I’m not even sure if they are now). Plus Stanford admissions process is more of a challenge and longer wait which scares off some potential recruits. This is probably as big of a go forward issue as cost (ie cost of USC is as bad as Stanford, but they still attract a lot of walk-one). I don't get how Stanford's recruiting challenges (similar to but more than Duke, Northwestern) can be so easily overcome in Indoor, yet not in Beach? What is the reason for that?
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Post by johnbar on Nov 9, 2019 16:28:13 GMT -5
Weren't the Nourse Twins supposed to be headed to Stanford at one point in time? Yes. Apparently Mom changed her mind.
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Post by johnbar on Nov 9, 2019 16:32:06 GMT -5
Give Stanford some time. Most of the top players in this freshman class were already committed before Stanford had announced Fuller as the head coach, And I don’t think they got funded for max scholarships until recently (I’m not even sure if they are now). Plus Stanford admissions process is more of a challenge and longer wait which scares off some potential recruits. This is probably as big of a go forward issue as cost (ie cost of USC is as bad as Stanford, but they still attract a lot of walk-one). I don't get how Stanford's recruiting challenges (similar to but more than Duke, Northwestern) can be so easily overcome in Indoor, yet not in Beach? What is the reason for that? Twelve full scholarships. Long-established powerhouse (8 national championships) indoors.
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Post by dunninla3 on Nov 9, 2019 22:07:52 GMT -5
OK, I think I can appreciate that UCLA, Florida St., LSU, any State school can overcome the 6 scholarship limit by having top quality walkons who can afford In State tuition.
There is also the possibility, with the cooperation of the Indoor coach, to have 3-4 quality beach players who also play Indoor on Indoor scholarships. I don't think UCLA could have won it all in 2018 without Indoor crossovers May, Simo and Sponcil, and 2019 without Simo and Sponcil.
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Post by socalplayer on Nov 9, 2019 23:20:58 GMT -5
Question is why can’t Andrew Fuller recruit better players? UCLA’s bench is better than Stanford’s entire current team. Wonder how long Stanford will allow its beach team to under perform Costs. Beach is an equivalency sport. When you only get 6 scholarships for 16-18 players, it goes a lot further at UCLA, especially for in-state players who pay in-state tuition. Both schools are in CA...and Stanford has more money than UCLA. I think they could make it happen...
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Post by pepperclove on Nov 10, 2019 2:40:49 GMT -5
If prospective students aren’t applying to Stanford because of the cost, that’s probably a strategic error. The average debt burden for Stanford graduates is actually lower than grads of UC and CSU schools because Stanford can afford to give so much need-based aid and because their financial aid packages don’t require students to take out loans. I’m not sure exactly how other aid works with athletic scholarships, but the catch with the very rich, elite schools like Stanford and some of the Ivies is usually getting in, not paying for it. www.mercurynews.com/2019/06/14/why-stanford-may-be-the-most-affordable-university-in-the-bay-area/
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Post by dunninla3 on Nov 10, 2019 12:22:54 GMT -5
Costs. Beach is an equivalency sport. When you only get 6 scholarships for 16-18 players, it goes a lot further at UCLA, especially for in-state players who pay in-state tuition. Both schools are in CA...and Stanford has more money than UCLA. I think they could make it happen... This comment makes no sense. 1) Stanford's tuition/fees is about $55,000, UCLA's tuition/fees is about $14,000 2) No matter how much money a school is willing to spend, the NCAA won't allow more than 6 grants in aid. Even if Stanford were willing to pay for 14 players, the limit is still a total of 6 grants in aid (each valued at about $75,000 "cost of attendance" Tuition/fees/room/board/books/incidentals/travel), or a total of about $450,000 divided as they see fit into quarter, half, two thirds, three quarters, etc. grants in aid. Or maybe I missed your point?
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Post by guest2 on Nov 10, 2019 12:42:59 GMT -5
If prospective students aren’t applying to Stanford because of the cost, that’s probably a strategic error. The average debt burden for Stanford graduates is actually lower than grads of UC and CSU schools because Stanford can afford to give so much need-based aid and because their financial aid packages don’t require students to take out loans. I’m not sure exactly how other aid works with athletic scholarships, but the catch with the very rich, elite schools like Stanford and some of the Ivies is usually getting in, not paying for it. www.mercurynews.com/2019/06/14/why-stanford-may-be-the-most-affordable-university-in-the-bay-area/I thought the same thing when I saw this. At least for out of state recruits the cost isnt that different is it? And a Stanford degree has got to be much more valuable than USC, UCLA maybe a more narrow gap, but a Stanford degree means something everywhere, the other two not as much
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 16:47:51 GMT -5
if you had a choice between stein metzger and andrew fuller as your coach, who would you pick?
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