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Post by stanfordvb on Dec 9, 2019 14:48:22 GMT -5
This is insane legit get over it. Everyone is acting like she killed someone, she yelled at a group of young girls for playing poorly. I bet She didn't give them scouting advice or anything to with actual volleyball. I think this is being so overplayed bc everyone hates Texas. I hate Texas lol. But that doesn't mean I can't recognize this isn't that big of a deal. "She shouldn't have it's not allowed I'm so sad that she gave an inspiring speech how dare she take her pro contract away actually !!!!###$$$!!! that put her in jail" is basically what is coming out of this thread. Shut up. Everyone. I don’t think it’s about that. I think it’s about producing enough chaos there’s a rule change so it doesn’t happen anymore. That and striving to achieve that 50 page thread count. Is it honestly a big deal if it does happen ? This is getting way too much attention and everyone is acting like jealous children.
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Post by volleyjeep on Dec 9, 2019 14:48:35 GMT -5
The reason people are focusing on "technical or tactical instruction" is because it is part of NCAA's very specific description of what makes someone a countable coach... 1) Provides technical or tactical instruction related to the sport to a student-athlete at any time; 2) Makes or assists in making tactical decisions related to the sport during on-court or on-field practice or competition; or 3) Engages in any off-campus recruiting activities. Anything else maybe coaching, but it doesn't make a person an NCAA countable coach I think people already know this but chooses to ignore it since it doesn't fit the narrative. Motivating could still be considered tactical and technical... since you are trying to make your players play better. Technically they're playing bad. Motivate them to play better by saying XYZ and suddenly they're technically better and now playing tactically.
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 9, 2019 14:49:04 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see if anything comes of it. Yes.
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Post by Disc808 on Dec 9, 2019 14:49:53 GMT -5
This is insane legit get over it. Everyone is acting like she killed someone, she yelled at a group of young girls for playing poorly. I bet She didn't give them scouting advice or anything to with actual volleyball. I think this is being so overplayed bc everyone hates Texas. I hate Texas lol. But that doesn't mean I can't recognize this isn't that big of a deal. "She shouldn't have it's not allowed I'm so sad that she gave an inspiring speech how dare she take her pro contract away actually !!!!###$$$!!! that put her in jail" is basically what is coming out of this thread. Shut up. Everyone. Nah, this is a bad take. We need to make sure that this doesn’t happen again, or else people who can actually impact tactically will be able to do the same thing. Plus rules should be followed
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Post by baytree on Dec 9, 2019 14:50:31 GMT -5
As it didn’t impact outcome, I don’t really care. Having said that it’s hard for me to wrap my head around Elliot either being clueless about the legality of it, or just thumbing his nose at the rule. There’s no way to know if it impacted outcome or not truely. I mean wasn’t Texas losing before that. It prob didn’t but nobody knows that for sure If the coaches who knew she was talking to team didn't think it would help, why did they let her do it?
The part I don't understand is: What does this say about the coach who Bell pushed out of the way to talk to the team? Why didn't Elliot back him over Bell? What does that say about how effective he thinks that coach is (in that situation, at least) compared to Bell?
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Post by Boof1224 on Dec 9, 2019 14:51:28 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s about that. I think it’s about producing enough chaos there’s a rule change so it doesn’t happen anymore. That and striving to achieve that 50 page thread count. Is it honestly a big deal if it does happen ? This is getting way too much attention and everyone is acting like jealous children. If you want fair play yes. If that’s allowed like the committees parameters, they’re far to many ways it can be abused. I agree the bell thing should be over but I think it’s less about bell and more about making sure this kind of thing doesn’t happen anymore
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 9, 2019 14:53:29 GMT -5
Got it. Thanks for sharing that. If I were a lawyer, that’s the case I’d be making. That of course is analogy, this isn’t a legal matter obviously. That side of the issue was relatively inconsequential violation even if it occurred. The point of that rule is to limit the rich schools to reasonable sized staffs so smaller schools can compete. The fact that a host institution allowed the home team an advantage that wouldn't have been allowed to the visiting team is a much bigger problem. Will be interesting to see if anything comes of it.
I have to question your second paragraph. I suspect a former UCSB player had been sitting in the stands behind their bench, she likely could have done the same thing if she wished.
In fact I know there was one UCSB alum at the game that could have walked up to their bench and no one in that building would have stopped him.
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Post by horns1 on Dec 9, 2019 14:53:39 GMT -5
You are so FOS. Obviously, you have an agenda you are trying to promote . . . At least one of us has an agenda; that's for sure. But I'm going to go with the biggest agenda being with the poster named "horns1".
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Post by volleyjeep on Dec 9, 2019 14:54:01 GMT -5
There’s no way to know if it impacted outcome or not truely. I mean wasn’t Texas losing before that. It prob didn’t but nobody knows that for sure If the coaches who knew she was talking to team didn't think it would help, why did they let her do it?
The part I don't understand is: What does this say about the coach who Bell pushed out of the way to talk to the team? Why didn't Elliot back him over Bell? What does that say about how effective he thinks that coach is (in that situation, at least) compared to Bell?
Not that I'm defending anything Texas did in this situation, or that Elliot let this happen. One of the hardest things to do as a coach is to not over coach. Sometimes the best move is to let the players coach themselves. Not that that is exactly what happened in this instance, but he probably thought this was the right move for his team at that moment. I don't think it speaks to anything about that other coach.
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Post by Boof1224 on Dec 9, 2019 14:55:27 GMT -5
At least one of us has an agenda; that's for sure. But I'm going to go with the biggest agenda being with the poster named "horns1".
Hey you should feel privileged. For all the talk Nebraska fans do you guys are getting far more coverage. That’s something right?😂😂
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Post by fm0ney on Dec 9, 2019 14:56:58 GMT -5
And now we get the posts from accounts that have literally never posted on any other subject. We are approaching the critical internet event horizon. I'm going to assume this is for me. I figure, if I want to to be VT all-star, i would have to start b!tching like an all-star. Khat Bell, brings out all the all-stars for some reason so i figure here's a perfect opportunity.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Dec 9, 2019 14:57:39 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s about that. I think it’s about producing enough chaos there’s a rule change so it doesn’t happen anymore. That and striving to achieve that 50 page thread count. Is it honestly a big deal if it does happen ? This is getting way too much attention and everyone is acting like jealous children. It's not a big deal but wrong is wrong. So you think its okay for anyone to come out of the stands and enter a teams huddle?
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Post by justahick on Dec 9, 2019 14:59:46 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s about that. I think it’s about producing enough chaos there’s a rule change so it doesn’t happen anymore. That and striving to achieve that 50 page thread count. Is it honestly a big deal if it does happen ? This is getting way too much attention and everyone is acting like jealous children. No. It is a big deal. Hosting is a privileged and NCAA tries to take great care to make sure teams are treated fairly by the host and it is clear in this case that the host didn't live up to their responsibilities. On the other hand, there isn't need for a new rule. The rule already exists and everyone involved knows it was violated. The only question now is what happens next.
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Post by baytree on Dec 9, 2019 14:59:53 GMT -5
If the coaches who knew she was talking to team didn't think it would help, why did they let her do it?
The part I don't understand is: What does this say about the coach who Bell pushed out of the way to talk to the team? Why didn't Elliot back him over Bell? What does that say about how effective he thinks that coach is (in that situation, at least) compared to Bell?
Not that I'm defending anything Texas did in this situation, or that Elliot let this happen. One of the hardest things to do as a coach is to not over coach. Sometimes the best move is to let the players coach themselves. Not that that is exactly what happened in this instance, but he probably thought this was the right move for his team at that moment. I don't think it speaks to anything about that other coach. Right. Which means that he thought it would help, i.e., it would positively affect the outcome. Who knows if it actually did but the Texas coaches must have believed that it would (or at least it had a higher probability of doing so than anything they could say).
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Post by horns1 on Dec 9, 2019 15:00:00 GMT -5
Hey you should feel privileged. For all the talk Nebraska fans do you guys are getting far more coverage. That’s something right?😂😂
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