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Post by VolleyTX on Jan 19, 2020 12:10:05 GMT -5
I know it is early in the season..... and maybe I've been watching too many international matches..... but damn this looked like high school volleyball to me: weak serving, poor passing, moon ball setting even on good passes. Yikes! Not very entertaining or athletic looking playing.
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Post by goblin on Jan 19, 2020 12:46:16 GMT -5
Yes the moon-ball setting has to go, Jakob is Thelle-graphing his sets to the opposing blockers and those sets should be restricted to outdoor family picnics.
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Post by raian13 on Jan 20, 2020 3:41:54 GMT -5
Watching the replay. For me I think Hawaii’s backrow defense needs some serious work.
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Post by internationalball on Jan 20, 2020 4:17:54 GMT -5
Watching the replay. For me I think Hawaii’s backrow defense needs some serious work. Oh yes. I think Worsley is a little off this season. He was great last year. Rado needs to work on his defense. Humler is a great server and passer for the Bows, but he is not terminal at the pins.
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Post by aaronic on Jan 20, 2020 9:45:51 GMT -5
I know it is early in the season..... and maybe I've been watching too many international matches..... but damn this looked like high school volleyball to me: weak serving, poor passing, moon ball setting even on good passes. Yikes! Not very entertaining or athletic looking playing. Exactly! Makes me wonder if people of those commenting in this thread actually watched the match. The passing for Hawaii especially was absolutely horrid. Thelle did all he could with what he had in the first set. The only real bright spot was Rado and the grit/composure of the team when they looked all but down and out of it during sets two and four. I question the kind of success Sheward would have had if he had started the match. Hawaii really could have lost the fourth and second set, and based on the way both teams were playing should have lost those sets. They could have easily have lost those sets just as easily as they were able to somehow pull those sets out. And based on that notion I find it ridiculous to be writing off Thelle and Humler. The only thing that Sheward has a case for starting moving forward is that 3rd set IMO.
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Post by Victory At Hand on Jan 20, 2020 10:04:04 GMT -5
I know it is early in the season..... and maybe I've been watching too many international matches..... but damn this looked like high school volleyball to me: weak serving, poor passing, moon ball setting even on good passes. Yikes! Not very entertaining or athletic looking playing. Exactly! Makes me wonder if people of those commenting in this thread actually watched the match. The passing for Hawaii especially was absolutely horrid. Thelle did all he could with what he had in the first set. The only real bright spot was Rado and the grit/composure of the team when they looked all but down and out of it during sets two and four. I question the kind of success Sheward would have had if he had started the match. Hawaii really could have lost the fourth and second set, and based on the way both teams were playing should have lost those sets. They could have easily have lost those sets just as easily as they were able to somehow pull those sets out. And based on that notion I find it ridiculous to be writing off Thelle and Humler. The only thing that Sheward has a case for starting moving forward is that 3rd set IMO. You don’t make any sense. “Thelle did all he could with what he had” but Hawaii still lost the set. So please tell explain if that’s the case why Hawaii won with Thelle and Humler on the bench?
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Post by aaronic on Jan 20, 2020 10:10:01 GMT -5
Exactly! Makes me wonder if people of those commenting in this thread actually watched the match. The passing for Hawaii especially was absolutely horrid. Thelle did all he could with what he had in the first set. The only real bright spot was Rado and the grit/composure of the team when they looked all but down and out of it during sets two and four. I question the kind of success Sheward would have had if he had started the match. Hawaii really could have lost the fourth and second set, and based on the way both teams were playing should have lost those sets. They could have easily have lost those sets just as easily as they were able to somehow pull those sets out. And based on that notion I find it ridiculous to be writing off Thelle and Humler. The only thing that Sheward has a case for starting moving forward is that 3rd set IMO. You don’t make any sense. “Thelle did all he could with what he had” but Hawaii still lost the set. So please tell explain if that’s the case why Hawaii won with Thelle and Humler on the bench? Hawaii played so poorly, especially with the pass that Thelle did all he could do given the poor passing. In regards to how they won. Well they won the third set with Sheward allowing the middles to become involved, and just playing better overall. As for sets two and four. I have no idea lol. I think just a lot of grit and determination, lucky bounces and maybe Loyola choking. Did you watch the match? How Hawaii ended up winning especially that fourth set is pretty damn amazing. Either luck or just the having the heart of a champion.
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Post by babybacksets on Jan 20, 2020 11:16:19 GMT -5
You don’t make any sense. “Thelle did all he could with what he had” but Hawaii still lost the set. So please tell explain if that’s the case why Hawaii won with Thelle and Humler on the bench? Hawaii played so poorly, especially with the pass that Thelle did all he could do given the poor passing. In regards to how they won. Well they won the third set with Sheward allowing the middles to become involved, and just playing better overall. As for sets two and four. I have no idea lol. I think just a lot of grit and determination, lucky bounces and maybe Loyola choking. Did you watch the match? How Hawaii ended up winning especially that fourth set is pretty damn amazing. Either luck or just the having the heart of a champion. If Thelle can’t connect with his middles then he needs to be on the bench. There is no amount of height, block physicality, or lefty offensive capabilities that excuse not keeping Pat Gasman as a significant part of your offense. Simple. The passing was bad at times but at this level anything passed in front of the 10ft line you should be able to find your middle somehow
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Post by thor on Jan 20, 2020 13:16:12 GMT -5
Sheward should set, reasons r obvious...he can set the middles, he plays good D, sets r quicker 2 the pins and he wins duh. As 4 Humler, I don’t see him getting set all that much, he was pulled very early vs Loyola. I dunno why, any guesses? I’d like 2 see Shewie set this guy. Chaz is a beast up front and he can destroy the pipe. He got the 3 H’s: hammer, hops and hang time. He was targeted on serve and got aced but truthfully, so did Cowell & Gage.
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Post by thor on Jan 20, 2020 13:45:25 GMT -5
This road trip was good 4 the Warriors. Both opponents were tough as nails, both played great D, great serving, decent pins, physical front lines...we were tested. This will make us better and we need 2 be because there r no cream puffs in the BWC
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Post by berry808 on Jan 20, 2020 14:40:31 GMT -5
Exactly! Makes me wonder if people of those commenting in this thread actually watched the match. The passing for Hawaii especially was absolutely horrid. Thelle did all he could with what he had in the first set. The only real bright spot was Rado and the grit/composure of the team when they looked all but down and out of it during sets two and four. I question the kind of success Sheward would have had if he had started the match. Hawaii really could have lost the fourth and second set, and based on the way both teams were playing should have lost those sets. They could have easily have lost those sets just as easily as they were able to somehow pull those sets out. And based on that notion I find it ridiculous to be writing off Thelle and Humler. The only thing that Sheward has a case for starting moving forward is that 3rd set IMO. You don’t make any sense. “Thelle did all he could with what he had” but Hawaii still lost the set. So please tell explain if that’s the case why Hawaii won with Thelle and Humler on the bench? Hawai’i usually has a slow start. I’d like to see how well Sheward does against a ranked team on the road in the first set. Then we can make a good comparison.
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Post by hwnstunner on Jan 20, 2020 16:27:10 GMT -5
Can we all just be happy Hawaii won. Hmmmph.
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Post by wilbur on Jan 20, 2020 16:51:38 GMT -5
Can we all just be happy Hawaii won. Hmmmph. have you read any post on UH ever on this board?
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Post by grt808 on Jan 20, 2020 18:54:09 GMT -5
This road trip was good 4 the Warriors. Both opponents were tough as nails, both played great D, great serving, decent pins, physical front lines...we were tested. This will make us better and we need 2 be because there r no cream puffs in the BWC Road trip is only halfway done...
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Post by aaronic on Jan 20, 2020 20:50:12 GMT -5
Hawaii played so poorly, especially with the pass that Thelle did all he could do given the poor passing. In regards to how they won. Well they won the third set with Sheward allowing the middles to become involved, and just playing better overall. As for sets two and four. I have no idea lol. I think just a lot of grit and determination, lucky bounces and maybe Loyola cho I king. Did you watch the match? How Hawaii ended up winning especially that fourth set is pretty damn amazing. Either luck or just the having the heart of a champion. If Thelle can’t connect with his middles then he needs to be on the bench. There is no amount of height, block physicality, or lefty offensive capabilities that excuse not keeping Pat Gasman as a significant part of your offense. Simple. The passing was bad at times but at this level anything passed in front of the 10ft line you should be able to find your middle somehow Let’s also keep in mind that it’s still so early on in the season, and so having that instant connection with a Setter/hitter, especially with both playing full time with each other is not going to be like snapping your fingers, and presto! Things just don’t work out that way. And anything passed in front of the 10 ft. line should be able to find your middle, that is true if it’s passed on target to the setter. The majority of the time the passes weren’t passed that well. But let’s not also forget that in sets 2 and 4, Hawaii could have easily lost both. There were many different factors that cannot be ignored and just because of selfish preferences call for the benching of certain players doesn’t make any sense. It was only the third week of the season, it’s a new team and so we can’t expect instant success, or what many other hope... domination. The one good thing to take away from all of this is that Hawaii played through adversity, and handled it well.
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