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Post by mervinswerved on Jan 31, 2024 15:22:36 GMT -5
So there's going to be a 3 point shootout at the NBA All Star Game side festivities between Stephen Curry and Sabrina Ionescu. Doesn't quite seem fair though. Curry will be shooting from the NBA 3 point line using larger NBA basketballs, while Ionescu gets to shoot from the shorter WNBA line using smaller WNBA basketballs. Sabrina already said she'd shoot from the NBA line.
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Post by BearClause on Jan 31, 2024 15:34:03 GMT -5
So there's going to be a 3 point shootout at the NBA All Star Game side festivities between Stephen Curry and Sabrina Ionescu. Doesn't quite seem fair though. Curry will be shooting from the NBA 3 point line using larger NBA basketballs, while Ionescu gets to shoot from the shorter WNBA line using smaller WNBA basketballs. Sabrina already said she'd shoot from the NBA line. She says that now.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jan 31, 2024 15:40:08 GMT -5
Sabrina already said she'd shoot from the NBA line. She says that now. Oooookay.
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Post by nowhereman on Jan 31, 2024 16:27:07 GMT -5
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Feb 1, 2024 13:47:51 GMT -5
So there's going to be a 3 point shootout at the NBA All Star Game side festivities between Stephen Curry and Sabrina Ionescu. Doesn't quite seem fair though. Curry will be shooting from the NBA 3 point line using larger NBA basketballs, while Ionescu gets to shoot from the shorter WNBA line using smaller WNBA basketballs. I get what you’re saying BC, but if the weight of the WNBA ball and distance to the hoop for a female is equivalent to that of the men’s then I would say it is fair. Not the exactly the same but equivalent. If Curry and Ionescu were of equal strength, I would object, but I’m assuming Curry is stronger.
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Feb 1, 2024 13:49:04 GMT -5
So there's going to be a 3 point shootout at the NBA All Star Game side festivities between Stephen Curry and Sabrina Ionescu. Doesn't quite seem fair though. Curry will be shooting from the NBA 3 point line using larger NBA basketballs, while Ionescu gets to shoot from the shorter WNBA line using smaller WNBA basketballs. Sabrina already said she'd shoot from the NBA line. Did she also agree to use the men’s ball?
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Post by BearClause on Feb 1, 2024 15:06:19 GMT -5
Sabrina already said she'd shoot from the NBA line. Did she also agree to use the men’s ball? She said that, but those aren't the rules in place. I for one wouldn't recommend it. Playing in the WNBA means her muscle memory is related towards the line as it stands, plus the ball. The other issue with a small diameter ball isn't just the weight, but that it's more likely to go in if it's not dead center in the rim, hits the rim, or whatever else happens. Granted there's a certain amount or variance in ball size and weight. There's also whether it might hit the rim right at the seam. But certainly smaller means more likely to go in.
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Feb 1, 2024 15:13:21 GMT -5
Did she also agree to use the men’s ball? She said that, but those aren't the rules in place. I for one wouldn't recommend it. Playing in the WNBA means her muscle memory is related towards the line as it stands, plus the ball. The other issue with a small diameter ball isn't just the weight, but that it's more likely to go in if it's not dead center in the rim, hits the rim, or whatever else happens. Granted there's a certain amount or variance in ball size and weight. There's also whether it might hit the rim right at the seam. But certainly smaller means more likely to go in. Very good point. I wonder if it would be a tougher challenge for Curry to use the WNBA ball. Regardless, I hope it’s a close match. I’m not familiar with Ionescu, it would be cool to see Kaitlin Clark in a similar competition, only cuz I’ve seen her launch some balls from pretty far out.
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Post by BearClause on Feb 1, 2024 16:12:43 GMT -5
She said that, but those aren't the rules in place. I for one wouldn't recommend it. Playing in the WNBA means her muscle memory is related towards the line as it stands, plus the ball. The other issue with a small diameter ball isn't just the weight, but that it's more likely to go in if it's not dead center in the rim, hits the rim, or whatever else happens. Granted there's a certain amount or variance in ball size and weight. There's also whether it might hit the rim right at the seam. But certainly smaller means more likely to go in. Very good point. I wonder if it would be a tougher challenge for Curry to use the WNBA ball. Regardless, I hope it’s a close match. I’m not familiar with Ionescu, it would be cool to see Kaitlin Clark in a similar competition, only cuz I’ve seen her launch some balls from pretty far out. I'm familiar with her because she's from the Bay Area and was heavily recruited by several Pac-12 programs including Cal. www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/185606/sabrina-ionescuI don't know about tougher challenge per se, but I still think muscle memory is a thing. Obviously there are different conditions. Possibly variance of different basketball lots. Different lighting and backgrounds (an indoor football stadium might be a huge challenge). Maybe even the air currents supporting the fabric roof. A warmup period is supposed to help to adjust to local conditions. I can assure you that a dunk content on an 8 foot rim would be easier for an NBA player, but dunking is always about adjusting on the fly and in the air. But a 3 point shooting contest at that height would probably mess with their muscle memory.
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Post by bbg95 on Feb 17, 2024 22:43:53 GMT -5
Well, Ionescu gave Steph a run for his money, but he won the contest 29-26. His "reward" is perhaps the cheapest belt in the history of the world.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Feb 17, 2024 22:57:46 GMT -5
Sabrina Ionescu > Caitlin Clark. There, I said it.
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Post by bbg95 on Feb 17, 2024 23:09:47 GMT -5
Sabrina Ionescu > Caitlin Clark. I mean, one is a pro, and the other is still in college. I've watched more of Clark this year than I've ever watched of the WNBA, though. I wouldn't mind seeing Clark in something like this. I mean, it's not like they're being defended. There's no real reason why Clark couldn't do well.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Feb 17, 2024 23:14:22 GMT -5
Sabrina Ionescu > Caitlin Clark. I mean, one is a pro, and the other is still in college. I've watched more of Clark this year than I've ever watched of the WNBA, though. I wouldn't mind seeing Clark in something like this. I mean, it's not like they're being defended. There's no real reason why Clark couldn't do well. No argument there. Clark has crazy range.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Feb 18, 2024 16:46:40 GMT -5
I hate the ball argument. they’ve both shot literal millions of shots with their ball. if you offered Steph the women’s ball, he would immediately say no because his muscle memory would cause him to overshoot, no matter what the physics say. she shot from the NBA line and still tied the high school from the actual 3 point contest.
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Post by BearClause on Feb 18, 2024 17:32:24 GMT -5
I hate the ball argument. they’ve both shot literal millions of shots with their ball. if you offered Steph the women’s ball, he would immediately say no because his muscle memory would cause him to overshoot, no matter what the physics say. she shot from the NBA line and still tied the high school from the actual 3 point contest. That’s not exactly it. Players always end up warming up before playing. Sometimes it’s to get used to individual basketball lots, or to adjust to arena conditions. One really big one is altitude in places like Denver or SLC. The air resistance affects the arc. If you’ve ever seen the arc on a 3 pointer, it’s never a pure ballistic path, but where it slows down and drops further. That requires a good deal of adjustment. Maybe a matter of inches, but still important to adjust for. The thing that would matter more is how it feels in the hand. I would think if lighter balls were used that were the same diameter, it wouldn’t matter as much as shrinking down the size of the ball.
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