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Post by midnightblue on Dec 22, 2023 18:29:14 GMT -5
The Wolverines are too high. What will be the schedule structure going forward, after the Pac 4 join? right now it's been rumored that each team plays each other once, their travel partner twice, then someone else twice -- probably a team within travel distance. yeah that's not gonna lead to unbalanced schedules. could (will?) be the difference for bubble teams in the B1G. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Dec 22, 2023 18:30:27 GMT -5
right now it's been rumored that each team plays each other once, their travel partner twice, then someone else twice -- probably a team within travel distance. yeah that's not gonna lead to unbalanced schedules. could (will?) be the difference for bubble teams in the B1G. Oh it's definitely going to be a problem. I think others on here have offered better solutions. |
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Post by dizzydean on Dec 22, 2023 18:31:02 GMT -5
Here are too early rankings for 2024 Big Ten… 1. Wisconsin 2. Nebraska 3. Penn State 4. USC 5. Purdue 6. Oregon 7. Minnesota 8. Ohio State 9. UCLA 10. Washington 11. Illinois 12. Indiana 13. Maryland 14. Michigan State 15. Northwestern 16. Michigan 17. Rutgers 18. Iowa I’d have Maryland below MSU, and Illinois below Indiana. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 22, 2023 18:32:09 GMT -5
20 game schedule is SUCH a bad idea as long as RPI is as influential as it is.
Especially when a 16-team SEC goes to single-round robin plus a tournament - that's gonna lead to a massive gap.
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Post by Resident Bitchy Canadian Fan on Dec 22, 2023 18:34:36 GMT -5
If i got to pick, I would break up the 18 teams into three tiers with 1-6, 7-12,13-18 based on previous ranking. For this year, i guess maybe just pick the predicted top 6 and start from there (pull an acc and save the rpi).
Make it a 22 match schedule (if it would be feasible to cut non-con by 1 week). Each team plays the other 5 teams from their tier twice. Then you play the other 12 teams once each.
I feel like this one match against everyone except for two opponents that are based on location, is going to make the big ten a lot less enjoyable to watch than it should be.
Or if you cant do that, shorten the regular season a bit and put in a conference tourney.
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Post by HappyVolley on Dec 22, 2023 18:36:47 GMT -5
Wisconsin at #1 is a bold choice for a team graduating both setters. Naw, we gonna be running a 5-1 with maybe the best freshman setter in the nation. And we've seen what freshman setters can do. Mind you, I'd still have Nebraska at #1 but because they're that good, not because Wisconsin will drop. And there we have it. The Second Coming of Cheesehead Jesus has now been prophesied.  |
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Post by abcd098 on Dec 22, 2023 18:40:29 GMT -5
I hate this conference realignment so much. I think it’s going to be damn near impossible for the lower-tier teams (Indiana, NW, Michigan, MSU) to get at-large bids for the tournament. It’s gonna be a bloodbath every season.
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Post by trojansc on Dec 22, 2023 18:53:09 GMT -5
Make it a 22 match schedule (if it would be feasible to cut non-con by 1 week). This would be absolutely disastrous for RPI |
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Post by northwoods on Dec 22, 2023 21:11:27 GMT -5
Naw, we gonna be running a 5-1 with maybe the best freshman setter in the nation. And we've seen what freshman setters can do. Mind you, I'd still have Nebraska at #1 but because they're that good, not because Wisconsin will drop. And there we have it. The Second Coming of Cheesehead Jesus has now been prophesied. Is there a gift registry? I was going to bring Frankincense, but if nobody’s bringing myrrh, I’ll pick some up… |
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Post by vup on Dec 22, 2023 21:28:38 GMT -5
It’s weird seeing PAC-12 posters talking about their teams in the Big Ten thread. Lol. Love y’all. 😘
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Post by minnley on Dec 22, 2023 21:41:06 GMT -5
The only thing that I feel comfy about is:
1. Wisc or Neb
2. Wisc or Neb
3. Penn State
4. Purdue
All else is a crap shoot. I do think that Indy should be much better than 12.
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Post by trojansc on Dec 22, 2023 21:58:33 GMT -5
Why not just do a true single round-robin. 17 match schedule. You could get creative with how you wanted to structure the conference tournament. You could even span it over two weeks and have teams *hosting* a game or two at home, giving some of the top teams a bye or double bye depending on the full structure.
In this ^ scenario, and it was spread over two weeks, you just would have to make sure one week you play 3 games in one week. It's not unheard of, the SEC, Big 12 have done it, the WCC did it every year prior to BYU's departure.
You could also just play a single round robin and spread it out over 10 weeks, having 3 weeks with just one match and no conference tournament. What's so wrong with that? You could open up opportunities for team to schedule non-conference matches later in the season especially if there are other local teams with a 1-match week, or mid-majors who have 2 matches a week but wouldn't mind a crack at a B1G team.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 22, 2023 22:05:04 GMT -5
Why not just do a true single round-robin. 17 match schedule. You could get creative with how you wanted to structure the conference tournament. You could even span it over two weeks and have teams *hosting* a game or two at home, giving some of the top teams a bye or double bye depending on the full structure. In this ^ scenario, and it was spread over two weeks, you just would have to make sure one week you play 3 games in one week. It's not unheard of, the SEC, Big 12 have done it, the WCC did it every year prior to BYU's departure. You could also just play a single round robin and spread it out over 10 weeks, having 3 weeks with just one match and no conference tournament. What's so wrong with that? You could open up opportunities for team to schedule non-conference matches later in the season especially if there are other local teams with a 1-match week, or mid-majors who have 2 matches a week but wouldn't mind a crack at a B1G team. don’t you know those suggestions make too much sense? |
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Post by JT on Dec 22, 2023 22:10:27 GMT -5
If i got to pick, I would break up the 18 teams into three tiers with 1-6, 7-12,13-18 based on previous ranking. For this year, i guess maybe just pick the predicted top 6 and start from there (pull an acc and save the rpi). Make it a 22 match schedule (if it would be feasible to cut non-con by 1 week). Each team plays the other 5 teams from their tier twice. Then you play the other 12 teams once each. I feel like this one match against everyone except for two opponents that are based on location, is going to make the big ten a lot less enjoyable to watch than it should be. Or if you cant do that, shorten the regular season a bit and put in a conference tourney. The PAC-12 found out how bad it was, RPI-wise, to shorten the non-conference by 25% in order to play a double round-robin with 12 teams. Not sure how much that applies to an unbalanced schedule (more than single- but well short of double- round robin), but I don't think we'll see the four weeks on non-conference get cut. I don't like any option for 18 teams in a 10-week / 20-match conference schedule.  - Play each team once, and along with HCA issues, you have half the teams playing 8 home and 9 away, and the other half playing 9 home and 8 away. And both of those numbers of home matches suck for the fans. - Play each team once, and then add three matches against a random set of conference opponents, and you have a weird mashup and horrible imbalance for determining the conference winner. - Do anything that lengthens the conference season beyond its current 10 weeks / 20 matches, and you risk RPI problems because you've shortened the non-conference. Adding a conference tournament as the last week, after a single-round-robin, might be the least bad option (imho), and I hate it. You could conceivably do it with the top four, six (two byes), or eight teams (play Wed if needed, and then Fri/Sat). I plan on complaining uselessly once the schedules start coming out. |
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Post by JT on Dec 22, 2023 22:12:36 GMT -5
It’s weird seeing PAC-12 posters talking about their teams in the Big Ten thread. Lol. Love y’all. 😘 Welcome to all the new B1G fans! |
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