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Post by johnwwool on Mar 13, 2024 18:44:30 GMT -5
Yep. The other option that might've made sense is Pitt being Syracuse's travel partner. That's about 45 minutes further than BC. But I imagine there are a ton of flights each day from Boston to Dallas. But competitively, the ACC wouldn't want to stick Pitt with a second match against Syracuse. Looks like 10 each day (spirit hasn't started yet, and I don't see VB players fitting in those seats anyway), at an hour longer flight time for a team going each direction each weekend. Pitt did fine with Syracuse 2x last year and it's tournament seed. And somebody has to be travel buddies with SMU, and since Pitt doesn't really have a natural buddy themselves, it makes sense. SMU isn't horrible either (they made the tourney last year), so its not going to be an RPI sink for Pitt. I would assume one of Pitt's extra two games is going to be against Louisville. I could see the other being Stanford, or GT, or maybe FSU. NC State's two additional games (Miami, SMU) are against teams that I think are going to be seen as on the same level as them within the conference. And the nice thing about Dallas (like Atlanta) is you can fly there commercial from pretty much anywhere. So for the teams that don't charter, it should be a pretty easy Saturday flight. And I think there is no way in hell anyone is putting their team on Spirit. The problem with an ACC tournament is 1 ) it would be thanksgiving weekend, and 2) it would be (at least) 5 days long. And if you're looking at the shootyball tournament in DC right now, those early days have bleak attendance.
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Post by bluepenquin on Mar 14, 2024 8:19:11 GMT -5
Looks like 10 each day (spirit hasn't started yet, and I don't see VB players fitting in those seats anyway), at an hour longer flight time for a team going each direction each weekend. The problem with an ACC tournament is 1 ) it would be thanksgiving weekend, and 2) it would be (at least) 5 days long. And if you're looking at the shootyball tournament in DC right now, those early days have bleak attendance. The schedule is already laid out to play 2 matches over Thanksgiving weekend (Tuesday and Saturday). There are creative ways around this: 1) Only the top 8 teams make the tournament. First round is played on Sunday or Monday prior to Thanksgiving with the top 4 teams getting the match at home. 4 winners play the Semifinals and Championship in Atlanta (or home of the #1 seed) on Friday and Saturday. Teams finishing 9th through 18th would play a single match on that Sunday/Monday for their 18th conference match. 2) Top 8 make the conference tournament - with the first 2 rounds played on Sunday/Tuesday prior to Thanksgiving. Then the finals is played on Saturday. 18 teams - everyone plays the other 17 teams once during the conference season - then the conference tournament. This seems better than creating an unbalanced conference schedule that determines the winner of the conference. Even w/o the conference tournament - everyone with the same conference schedule is more fair in determining a champion than an unbalanced schedule. IMO - conference tournaments from the P5 conferences is the next step in growing the sport. Louisville vs. Stanford and Nebraska vs. Wisconsin matches to end the season - along with some great semi-final matches that last weekend of the season would be great TV.
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Post by coahc21 on Mar 14, 2024 8:42:50 GMT -5
The problem with an ACC tournament is 1 ) it would be thanksgiving weekend, and 2) it would be (at least) 5 days long. And if you're looking at the shootyball tournament in DC right now, those early days have bleak attendance. The schedule is already laid out to play 2 matches over Thanksgiving weekend (Tuesday and Saturday). There are creative ways around this: 1) Only the top 8 teams make the tournament. First round is played on Sunday or Monday prior to Thanksgiving with the top 4 teams getting the match at home. 4 winners play the Semifinals and Championship in Atlanta (or home of the #1 seed) on Friday and Saturday. Teams finishing 9th through 18th would play a single match on that Sunday/Monday for their 18th conference match. 2) Top 8 make the conference tournament - with the first 2 rounds played on Sunday/Tuesday prior to Thanksgiving. Then the finals is played on Saturday. 18 teams - everyone plays the other 17 teams once during the conference season - then the conference tournament. This seems better than creating an unbalanced conference schedule that determines the winner of the conference. Even w/o the conference tournament - everyone with the same conference schedule is more fair in determining a champion than an unbalanced schedule. IMO - conference tournaments from the P5 conferences is the next step in growing the sport. Louisville vs. Stanford and Nebraska vs. Wisconsin matches to end the season - along with some great semi-final matches that last weekend of the season would be great TV. I agree...the final weekend full of teams that have already won the conference title is anti-climatic....not to mention, "if they win they win a share of the conference title" But also...tough with the growing super conference...would have to pare it down to 10 or 8 team tournaments to make the timing work
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Post by n00b on Mar 14, 2024 9:36:58 GMT -5
But also...tough with the growing super conference...would have to pare it down to 10 or 8 team tournaments to make the timing work No you don't. Men's basketball has shown how to do it with up to 16 teams. I DO think that the championship committee should allow for matches on that final Sunday like basketball does. If men's basketball can handle a 3:30pm Big Ten Championship game and a 6pm bracket reveal then volleyball needs to be able to handle a 3pm SEC Championship match before their 9pm selection show. They could make the choice to play Wednesday through Sunday or Tuesday-Wednesday, off on Thanksgiving, Friday-Saturday-Sunday.
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Post by coahc21 on Mar 14, 2024 9:41:06 GMT -5
But also...tough with the growing super conference...would have to pare it down to 10 or 8 team tournaments to make the timing work No you don't. Men's basketball has shown how to do it with up to 16 teams. I DO think that the championship committee should allow for matches on that final Sunday like basketball does. If men's basketball can handle a 3:30pm Big Ten Championship game and a 6pm bracket reveal then volleyball needs to be able to handle a 3pm SEC Championship match before their 9pm selection show. They could make the choice to play Wednesday through Sunday or Tuesday-Wednesday, off on Thanksgiving, Friday-Saturday-Sunday. I think there would be A LOT of pushback to three match days in a row...I would be shocked if any P5 conferences would be on board with that right before the NCAA tourney
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Post by n00b on Mar 14, 2024 9:46:05 GMT -5
No you don't. Men's basketball has shown how to do it with up to 16 teams. I DO think that the championship committee should allow for matches on that final Sunday like basketball does. If men's basketball can handle a 3:30pm Big Ten Championship game and a 6pm bracket reveal then volleyball needs to be able to handle a 3pm SEC Championship match before their 9pm selection show. They could make the choice to play Wednesday through Sunday or Tuesday-Wednesday, off on Thanksgiving, Friday-Saturday-Sunday. I think there would be A LOT of pushback to three match days in a row...I would be shocked if any P5 conferences would be on board with that right before the NCAA tourney Yeah, I'm sure that's true. But if you want to grow the game, it's what you do. From a rest and recovery standpoint, it's even crazier that basketball teams are willing to do it. But they do it because it creates a great event for the sport. These are the little things that women's basketball goes all in on copying and guess what? Major networks want to promote and air conference tournaments because they are fun and exciting. If the SEC does it right, their tournament is going to be a lot of fun and will be a recruiting draw for those programs.
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Post by killerbees on Mar 19, 2024 20:19:45 GMT -5
When is opening weekend this year? Aug 23 or 30? Opening Day is Fri, Aug 30th Opening day of what? Villanova is paying the weekend before
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Post by trojansc on Mar 19, 2024 21:09:49 GMT -5
Opening Day is Fri, Aug 30th Opening day of what? Villanova is paying the weekend before Opening day of NCAA Regular Season. That’s probably an exhibition match for Villanova
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Post by jackson5vb on Mar 20, 2024 8:04:58 GMT -5
Opening Day is Fri, Aug 30th Opening day of what? Villanova is paying the weekend before who are they playing?
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Post by USC✌🏼 on Mar 23, 2024 21:11:09 GMT -5
Is there a spread sheet with the games like past years?
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Post by vballfreak808 on Mar 27, 2024 15:35:42 GMT -5
Toledo
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Post by huskervolleyfan14 on Mar 29, 2024 19:30:26 GMT -5
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Post by sluggermatt15 on Mar 29, 2024 21:26:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't have expected that but if you look it up, American Airlines runs 4 flights between the two each day. Louisville to Dallas is only 1x per day. Notre Dame is a longer drive from the Chicago airports. I guess I get it. Yep. The other option that might've made sense is Pitt being Syracuse's travel partner. That's about 45 minutes further than BC. But I imagine there are a ton of flights each day from Boston to Dallas. But competitively, the ACC wouldn't want to stick Pitt with a second match against Syracuse. I agree. Pittsburgh to Dallas and back has direct flights, which I can also see. I would think Louisville would play Pitt twice, unless I overlooked that they are already playing home and home??
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Post by huskervolleyfan14 on Apr 4, 2024 12:21:11 GMT -5
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 4, 2024 13:31:25 GMT -5
Big 12 is divided into 3 groups of 5. Teams play their group twice and the other 10 schools once for an 18 game conference schedule. This is probably the right thing to do - certainly the easiest way to do it.
Here are the Groups:
#1) BYU, Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Arizona State #2) Kansas, Iowa State, Kansas State, UCF, and West Virginia #3) Baylor, Houston, TCU, Texas Tech, Cincinatti
Group 1 with the toughest schedule.
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