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Post by dbro1970 on Mar 27, 2024 12:36:00 GMT -5
Maybe I’m missing key info but I’m not optimistic about UCLA in year 1 in the B1G Would it be a fair bet that not one of the Ex-PAC four will finish in the Top 5 of the B1G? Current Big Ten would probably finish Nebraska, Wisconsin, Penn state, Purdue, Minnesota..... I do think Oregon is better than Minnesota.
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Post by bbg95 on Mar 27, 2024 12:49:11 GMT -5
And I would bet that Stanford doesn't lose 4-5 matches in the ACC. I guess repeated cross country trips could take their toll, but if that's the case a lot of these teams are going to have trouble. Stanford just doesn't lose to teams outside the top 25 that often. Other than At Louisville and At Pittsburgh, Stanford should win every match. If you want to tell me somebody gets hurt and Delta loses somebody's shoes and Georgia Tech takes a match - ok, sure, but that's still only 3. To get to 5 I guess you think they are going to lose to Pitt and Louisville at home too? Maybe Hambly let's the girls out on the town in Miami and they catch the "South Beach flu?" I don't know, I just don't see it. its very possible stanford loses both home and away to louisville and pitt. home court is not always the advantage everyone thinks it is, 95% of the time the better team is gonna win regardless of what court the match is on. If the teams are about even then sure, but Stanford has some big shoes to fill compared to minimal losses for Louisville and pitt Yeah, Stanford has lost a fair amount of home matches against good teams in recent seasons. Just in the last two years when Stanford was a 1 seed: 2023: Florida, Nebraska, Texas (Elite 8) 2022: Texas, Louisville, San Diego (Elite 8) Obviously, those were all Final Four-caliber teams (Florida was before they got injured), but still. 4+ ACC losses is possible if perhaps unlikely.
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Post by vbnerd on Mar 27, 2024 21:29:06 GMT -5
I think it takes the ACC a couple years to catch up to Stanford but I could be wrong. That's why they play the games!
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Post by ay2013 on Mar 28, 2024 0:09:09 GMT -5
I think it takes the ACC a couple years to catch up to Stanford but I could be wrong. That's why they play the games! what do you mean by the "ACC"? The entire conference or Pitt and Louisville in particular? Year over year it's hard to argue that Pitt and Louisville shouldn't be favored next year, regardless of where the match is being played. Pitt loses nobody of consequence and gets Bre Kelley back. Louisville isn't losing anyone that they aren't replacing with proven talent. Stanford is turning well over half of their points in any given match and replacing it with players who barely have played at this level.
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Post by aardvark on Mar 28, 2024 7:48:37 GMT -5
I think it takes the ACC a couple years to catch up to Stanford but I could be wrong. That's why they play the games! Given Stanford will be in the ACC next year, your comment makes no sense. How can one catch up to oneself?
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Post by bbg95 on Mar 28, 2024 9:25:46 GMT -5
I think it takes the ACC a couple years to catch up to Stanford but I could be wrong. That's why they play the games! what do you mean by the "ACC"? The entire conference or Pitt and Louisville in particular? Year over year it's hard to argue that Pitt and Louisville shouldn't be favored next year, regardless of where the match is being played. Pitt loses nobody of consequence and gets Bre Kelley back. Louisville isn't losing anyone that they aren't replacing with proven talent. Stanford is turning well over half of their points in any given match and replacing it with players who barely have played at this level. Right. Pitt and Louisville don't need to "catch up" to Stanford. They're already caught up. Not in terms of history but current program strength. Not to mention that Stanford will be the school moving to a new conference on the other side of the country with a 30% revenue share.
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Post by bbg95 on Mar 28, 2024 9:28:16 GMT -5
I think it takes the ACC a couple years to catch up to Stanford but I could be wrong. That's why they play the games! Given Stanford will be in the ACC next year, your comment makes no sense. How can one catch up to oneself? It's such a weird comment. It feels like they wrote it in 2019 instead of 2024, lol.
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Post by leftcoaster71 on Mar 28, 2024 12:01:31 GMT -5
I think it takes the ACC a couple years to catch up to Stanford but I could be wrong. That's why they play the games! what do you mean by the "ACC"? The entire conference or Pitt and Louisville in particular? Year over year it's hard to argue that Pitt and Louisville shouldn't be favored next year, regardless of where the match is being played. Pitt loses nobody of consequence and gets Bre Kelley back. Louisville isn't losing anyone that they aren't replacing with proven talent. Stanford is turning well over half of their points in any given match and replacing it with players who barely have played at this level. And considering since both Louisville and Pitt both have been in multiple Final Fours over the past 5 years, I'd say Stanford has some catching up to do.
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Post by tomclen on Mar 28, 2024 12:29:17 GMT -5
what do you mean by the "ACC"? The entire conference or Pitt and Louisville in particular? Year over year it's hard to argue that Pitt and Louisville shouldn't be favored next year, regardless of where the match is being played. Pitt loses nobody of consequence and gets Bre Kelley back. Louisville isn't losing anyone that they aren't replacing with proven talent. Stanford is turning well over half of their points in any given match and replacing it with players who barely have played at this level. And considering since both Louisville and Pitt both have been in multiple Final Fours over the past 5 years, I'd say Stanford has some catching up to do. Agreed. But I'd think Stanford could be the first ex-PAC to win a conference title.
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Post by trojansc on Mar 28, 2024 14:54:16 GMT -5
And considering since both Louisville and Pitt both have been in multiple Final Fours over the past 5 years, I'd say Stanford has some catching up to do. Agreed. But I'd think Stanford could be the first ex-PAC to win a conference title. Arizona State could be a dark horse to win the Big 12 if they continue trending up.
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Post by aardvark on Mar 28, 2024 15:49:04 GMT -5
And considering since both Louisville and Pitt both have been in multiple Final Fours over the past 5 years, I'd say Stanford has some catching up to do. Agreed. But I'd think Stanford could be the first ex-PAC to win a conference title. As long as you're careful to leave that key word "could" in the sentence, you could replace Stanford with any of the other teams.
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Post by azcatsfan on Mar 28, 2024 17:06:21 GMT -5
Agreed. But I'd think Stanford could be the first ex-PAC to win a conference title. Arizona State could be a dark horse to win the Big 12 if they continue trending up. Their pin production is a question mark IMO. Three true freshman pins and three on the roster that average around .200 or below. Plus Jeter possibly moving to opposite.
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Post by trojansc on Mar 28, 2024 17:10:30 GMT -5
Arizona State could be a dark horse to win the Big 12 if they continue trending up. Their pin production is a question mark IMO. Three true freshman pins and three on the roster that average around .200 or below. Plus Jeter possibly moving to opposite. Definitely. I wish they got Maldonado-Diaz. But without Texas, if ASU keeps their upward trend, I could see them stealing a Big 12 title in the next few years. But it’ll might be BYU’s league to lose now.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Mar 28, 2024 18:03:08 GMT -5
Their pin production is a question mark IMO. Three true freshman pins and three on the roster that average around .200 or below. Plus Jeter possibly moving to opposite. Definitely. I wish they got Maldonado-Diaz. But without Texas, if ASU keeps their upward trend, I could see them stealing a Big 12 title in the next few years. But it’ll might be BYU’s league to lose now. I really hope Kansas can start challenging again now. they should have another solid lineup this season, even with the loss of Cooper
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Post by azcatsfan on Mar 28, 2024 18:22:28 GMT -5
Their pin production is a question mark IMO. Three true freshman pins and three on the roster that average around .200 or below. Plus Jeter possibly moving to opposite. Definitely. I wish they got Maldonado-Diaz. But without Texas, if ASU keeps their upward trend, I could see them stealing a Big 12 title in the next few years. But it’ll might be BYU’s league to lose now. Agreed. I thought ASU would have been the perfect place for Sofia. Almost no competition at opposite and JJ probably would have let her play six rotations.
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