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Post by hbmb10k on Apr 7, 2024 10:53:16 GMT -5
Great job VT forum partisans. All your predictions about the Russian economy failing and the their military being "depleted" were wrong. www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2024/04/03/russian-military-almost-completely-reconstituted-us-official-says/How many Ukrainian lives and billions did you squander believing the zionist, corporate controlled media that acted as if we would compel another superpower on the other side of the World to submit? How low has our World standing sunk thanks to sheep like you pledging your loyalty to one of these sick corrupt parties?
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Post by hbmb10k on Apr 7, 2024 11:01:45 GMT -5
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Post by BearClause on Apr 7, 2024 11:24:52 GMT -5
Not really. www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-war-economy-faces-tough-times-ahead-says-imfs-georgieva-2024-02-12/Russia's war economy is in for tough times due to the outflow of people and shortages of technology, the International Monetary Fund's managing director Kristalina Georgieva said on Monday, even as high military spending boosts economic growth. The economy rebounded sharply from a slump in 2022, annual data showed last week, but the growth relies heavily on state-funded arms and ammunition production and masks problems that are hampering an improvement in Russians' living standards. ******** Russia-based economists have highlighted the poor quality of economic growth, pointing out that missiles and shells may contribute to higher GDP but offer limited benefit to the population. "I actually think the Russian economy is (in) for very tough times because of the outflow of people and because of the reduced access to technology that comes with the sanctions," Georgieva said.
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 7, 2024 11:32:26 GMT -5
Great job VT forum partisans. All your predictions about the Russian economy failing and the their military being "depleted" were wrong. www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2024/04/03/russian-military-almost-completely-reconstituted-us-official-says/How many Ukrainian lives and billions did you squander believing the zionist, corporate controlled media that acted as if we would compel another superpower on the other side of the World to submit? How low has our World standing sunk thanks to sheep like you pledging your loyalty to one of these sick corrupt parties? Why don't you ask your babushka from the Urals how she really thinks the economy is doing?
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Post by BearClause on Apr 7, 2024 11:33:09 GMT -5
Or this. They can’t afford to lose and they can’t afford to win. Being in a state of war is keeping their economy ticking, along with barring money from leaving Russia. theconversation.com/russias-economy-is-now-completely-driven-by-the-war-in-ukraine-it-cannot-afford-to-lose-but-nor-can-it-afford-to-win-221333Military pay, ammunition, tanks, planes, and compensation for dead and wounded soldiers, all contribute to the GDP figures. Put simply, the war against Ukraine is now the main driver of Russia’s economic growth. And it is a war that Russia cannot afford to win. The cost of rebuilding and maintaining security in a conquered Ukraine would be too great, and an isolated Russia could at best hope to become a junior partner entirely dependent on China.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Apr 7, 2024 11:35:25 GMT -5
so much for Joe Biden's 'important sanctions' on Russia...thats done a world of good hasn't it?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Apr 7, 2024 11:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by akbar on Apr 7, 2024 11:47:56 GMT -5
Infected Vtalk people too....as we already know.
GOP Rep. Mike Turner said Sunday that Russian propaganda has taken hold among some of his House Republican colleagues and is even "being uttered on the House floor."
"We see directly coming from Russia ... communications that are anti-Ukraine and pro-Russia messages, some of which we even hear being uttered on the House floor," Turner, chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said in an interview on CNN's "State of the Union."
His comments come on the heels of remarks House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair Michael McCaul made this week about how Russian propaganda has taken root among the GOP.
McCaul, a Texas Republican, told Puck News that he thinks "Russian propaganda has made its way into the United States, unfortunately, and it’s infected a good chunk of my party’s base."
Turner and McCaul each tied Russia and its leader, Vladimir Putin, to other authoritarian leaders, including President Xi Jinping of China and Kim Jong Un, the leader of North Korea.
"[The propaganda] makes it more difficult for us to really see this as an authoritarian versus democracy battle, which is what it is," Turner told CNN, adding, "President Xi of China, Vladimir Putin himself have identified as such."
McCaul described explaining to colleagues that the threat of Russian propaganda is similar to threats made by other U.S. adversaries.
"I have to explain to them what’s at stake, why Ukraine is in our national security interest," he said. "By the way, you don’t like Communist China? Well, guess what? They’re aligned [with Russia], along with the ayatollah [of Iran]. So when you explain it that way, they kind of start understanding it."
GQP....is anti American
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Post by bobinmd on Apr 7, 2024 13:10:38 GMT -5
Infected Vtalk people too....as we already know. GOP Rep. Mike Turner said Sunday that Russian propaganda has taken hold among some of his House Republican colleagues and is even "being uttered on the House floor." "We see directly coming from Russia ... communications that are anti-Ukraine and pro-Russia messages, some of which we even hear being uttered on the House floor," Turner, chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said in an interview on CNN's "State of the Union." His comments come on the heels of remarks House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair Michael McCaul made this week about how Russian propaganda has taken root among the GOP. McCaul, a Texas Republican, told Puck News that he thinks "Russian propaganda has made its way into the United States, unfortunately, and it’s infected a good chunk of my party’s base." Turner and McCaul each tied Russia and its leader, Vladimir Putin, to other authoritarian leaders, including President Xi Jinping of China and Kim Jong Un, the leader of North Korea. "[The propaganda] makes it more difficult for us to really see this as an authoritarian versus democracy battle, which is what it is," Turner told CNN, adding, "President Xi of China, Vladimir Putin himself have identified as such." McCaul described explaining to colleagues that the threat of Russian propaganda is similar to threats made by other U.S. adversaries. "I have to explain to them what’s at stake, why Ukraine is in our national security interest," he said. "By the way, you don’t like Communist China? Well, guess what? They’re aligned [with Russia], along with the ayatollah [of Iran]. So when you explain it that way, they kind of start understanding it." GQP....is anti American New thread time for Hol. ✝️
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Post by tomclen on Apr 7, 2024 14:01:52 GMT -5
Even republicans are saying republicans are falling for Russian propaganda.
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Post by longboards on Apr 7, 2024 14:27:53 GMT -5
Didn't you call Putin 'honest and moral'?
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Post by hbmb10k on Apr 7, 2024 21:29:31 GMT -5
Not really. www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-war-economy-faces-tough-times-ahead-says-imfs-georgieva-2024-02-12/Russia's war economy is in for tough times due to the outflow of people and shortages of technology, the International Monetary Fund's managing director Kristalina Georgieva said on Monday, even as high military spending boosts economic growth. The economy rebounded sharply from a slump in 2022, annual data showed last week, but the growth relies heavily on state-funded arms and ammunition production and masks problems that are hampering an improvement in Russians' living standards. ******** Russia-based economists have highlighted the poor quality of economic growth, pointing out that missiles and shells may contribute to higher GDP but offer limited benefit to the population. "I actually think the Russian economy is (in) for very tough times because of the outflow of people and because of the reduced access to technology that comes with the sanctions," Georgieva said. Unbelievable. So brainwashed that your only response after being given evidence that the mainstream media was in fact wrong about Russia is to post more nonsense predictions from the mainstream media! .......Oh so their economy is getting a boost from military spending? ...How does that compare to a country that gets it's GDP boost from printing money?
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Post by hbmb10k on Apr 7, 2024 21:34:38 GMT -5
Or this. They can’t afford to lose and they can’t afford to win. Being in a state of war is keeping their economy ticking, along with barring money from leaving Russia. theconversation.com/russias-economy-is-now-completely-driven-by-the-war-in-ukraine-it-cannot-afford-to-lose-but-nor-can-it-afford-to-win-221333Military pay, ammunition, tanks, planes, and compensation for dead and wounded soldiers, all contribute to the GDP figures. Put simply, the war against Ukraine is now the main driver of Russia’s economic growth. And it is a war that Russia cannot afford to win. The cost of rebuilding and maintaining security in a conquered Ukraine would be too great, and an isolated Russia could at best hope to become a junior partner entirely dependent on China. You bet they are partnering with Russia. Now that idiots here in the US drove them to it. It'll be a partnership that will dwarf US/EU in short time. China graduates 14 engineers for every 1 US. They'll have full access to the enormous natural resources of a country that admires it's leader and has a sense of unity. You go vote for the politician that does or doesn't allow the right people into the right bathroom. I'm sure that's very important to you.
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 7, 2024 21:38:21 GMT -5
Or this. They can’t afford to lose and they can’t afford to win. Being in a state of war is keeping their economy ticking, along with barring money from leaving Russia. theconversation.com/russias-economy-is-now-completely-driven-by-the-war-in-ukraine-it-cannot-afford-to-lose-but-nor-can-it-afford-to-win-221333Military pay, ammunition, tanks, planes, and compensation for dead and wounded soldiers, all contribute to the GDP figures. Put simply, the war against Ukraine is now the main driver of Russia’s economic growth. And it is a war that Russia cannot afford to win. The cost of rebuilding and maintaining security in a conquered Ukraine would be too great, and an isolated Russia could at best hope to become a junior partner entirely dependent on China. You bet the are partnering with Russia. Now that idiots here in the US drove them to it. It'll be a partnership that will dwarf US/EU in short time. China graduates 14 engineers for every 1 US. They'll have full access to the enormous natural resources of a country that admires it's leader and has a sense of unity. You go vote for the politician is does or doesn't allow the right people into the right bathroom. I'm sure that's very important to you. At this rate, China will collapse before Russia. But neither is going to survive as they currently exist for very long.
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Post by BearClause on Apr 7, 2024 21:39:51 GMT -5
Not really. www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-war-economy-faces-tough-times-ahead-says-imfs-georgieva-2024-02-12/Russia's war economy is in for tough times due to the outflow of people and shortages of technology, the International Monetary Fund's managing director Kristalina Georgieva said on Monday, even as high military spending boosts economic growth. The economy rebounded sharply from a slump in 2022, annual data showed last week, but the growth relies heavily on state-funded arms and ammunition production and masks problems that are hampering an improvement in Russians' living standards. ******** Russia-based economists have highlighted the poor quality of economic growth, pointing out that missiles and shells may contribute to higher GDP but offer limited benefit to the population. "I actually think the Russian economy is (in) for very tough times because of the outflow of people and because of the reduced access to technology that comes with the sanctions," Georgieva said. Unbelievable. So brainwashed that your only response after being given evidence that the mainstream media was in fact wrong about Russia is to post more nonsense predictions from the mainstream media! .......Oh so their economy is getting a boost from military spending? ...How does that compare to a country that gets it's GDP boost from printing money? Wow. You're really drinking the Russian Kool-Aid. www.cnbc.com/2024/02/12/russias-economy-in-for-very-tough-times-despite-improved-outlook-imf.html“What it tells us is that this is a war economy in which the state — which let’s remember, had a very sizeable buffer, built over many years of fiscal discipline — is investing in this war economy. If you look at Russia, today, production goes up, [for the] military, [and] consumption goes down. And that is pretty much what the Soviet Union used to look like. High level of production, low level of consumption.” Russian defense spending has skyrocketed since the war began. Last November, Russian President Vladimir Putin approved a state budget that increased military spending to roughly 30% of fiscal expenditure, amounting to a nearly 70% rise from 2023 to 2024. Defense and security spending is expected to comprise some 40% of Russia’s total budget spending this year, according to analysis by Reuters. At the same time, however, more than 800,000 people have left Russia, according to estimates by exiled academics compiled last October. Many among those who fled are highly skilled workers in fields like IT and sciences.
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