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Post by Leansteak111 on Apr 10, 2024 12:28:50 GMT -5
Some may think it wont happen but soon there wont be a maximum amount of years someone can play. Who is the NCAA to say someone can only play for four years if they meet the academic eligibility requirements?
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Post by Not Me on Apr 10, 2024 15:07:38 GMT -5
They really don’t have much of a choice. The courts have already ruled this way, so this is just formally changing the rules. I’ve read of an injunction being issue in a case of a player who sued because the rule requiring a sit out for a 2nd transfer violated antitrust law. I have not read about a final verdict in that case? It seems like the entire NCAA is just a giant antitrust violation? Do these laws have carveouts for professional sports collective bargaining agreements? Otherwise wouldn’t they be just as susceptible? If so, then I hope major college sports conferences (Big Ten, etc) make all varsity student athletes employees of the conference, paying them with TV contract money right off the top before it ever goes to schools, and creates a players union with a CBA. Free movement every year is bad for sport. That’s proven by that no major US professional league allows it. There is just an injunction, but the NCAA sees the at the judicial and legislative branches are not going their way. So it seems that the NCAA is just giving up a fight they won’t win, and saving lots of time and money. |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Apr 11, 2024 13:01:05 GMT -5
Everyone outside of the Top 10-20 will be a "farm" club.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 11, 2024 14:26:36 GMT -5
Everyone outside of the Top 10-20 will be a "farm" club. Yes. And the top 10-20 will be determined by overall resources. Schools will be able to specialize in what sports they want to be good at, but there will need to be resources behind the commitment. And the Big Ten and SEC will by far have the most resources to bring to bear. |
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Post by mplsgopher on Apr 17, 2024 15:34:26 GMT -5
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Post by mplsgopher on Apr 17, 2024 15:35:51 GMT -5
What is the legal foundation for the existence of the NCAA, anymore?
What rule can’t you get out of by lawsuit?
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Post by texasvbnut on Apr 17, 2024 15:55:20 GMT -5
Does this mean unlimited transfers are approved? |
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Post by slxpress on Apr 17, 2024 18:46:57 GMT -5
What is the legal foundation for the existence of the NCAA, anymore? What rule can’t you get out of by lawsuit? Think of it like the United Nations of college sports. It keeps the lines of communication open. It’s the organization through which the postseason is organized. But no one is really thinking they’re going to be superb at enforcing much, any more than the United Nations stops wars from occurring. There is value there, but it’s important to keep expectations low. I’m curious if the NCAA is able to keep jurisdiction (and more importantly, the income) from the post season events they control. I still think the Big 10 and SEC are going to carve more money out of those events the same way they’re doing with football. |
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Post by n00b on Apr 17, 2024 18:55:04 GMT -5
What is the legal foundation for the existence of the NCAA, anymore? What rule can’t you get out of by lawsuit? Think of it like the United Nations of college sports. It keeps the lines of communication open. It’s the organization through which the postseason is organized. But no one is really thinking they’re going to be superb at enforcing much, any more than the United Nations stops wars from occurring. There is value there, but it’s important to keep expectations low. I’m curious if the NCAA is able to keep jurisdiction (and more importantly, the income) from the post season events they control. I still think the Big 10 and SEC are going to carve more money out of those events the same way they’re doing with football. I'm not sold on that. The only way for the Big Ten and SEC to get more money is to not participate in the NCAA championship altogether. I don't think that March Madness has NEARLY the value it does now without the little guys. They already do get more shares for being more successful in the tournament. And the value of the event drops significantly if they separate themselves. Those conferences would absolutely do it if it was a no-doubt significant financial windfall. I just don't think it is. They're making so much more on regular season media deals and the College Football Playoff. |
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Post by slxpress on Apr 17, 2024 19:11:13 GMT -5
Think of it like the United Nations of college sports. It keeps the lines of communication open. It’s the organization through which the postseason is organized. But no one is really thinking they’re going to be superb at enforcing much, any more than the United Nations stops wars from occurring. There is value there, but it’s important to keep expectations low. I’m curious if the NCAA is able to keep jurisdiction (and more importantly, the income) from the post season events they control. I still think the Big 10 and SEC are going to carve more money out of those events the same way they’re doing with football. I'm not sold on that. The only way for the Big Ten and SEC to get more money is to not participate in the NCAA championship altogether. I don't think that March Madness has NEARLY the value it does now without the little guys. They already do get more shares for being more successful in the tournament. And the value of the event drops significantly if they separate themselves. Those conferences would absolutely do it if it was a no-doubt significant financial windfall. I just don't think it is. They're making so much more on regular season media deals and the College Football Playoff. We’ll see. There’s going to be more pressure to grow revenue. Not less. Schools are looking at apocalyptic scenarios where they’re having to fork out more money to pay for athletes. It’s either come up with the money or drop out of the game and acknowledge you can’t compete any more. A big trough of money is in postseason play for the other sports. It’s how the NCAA is funded. There would be opportunities for the little guys. Just like they’ve guaranteed a spot for the Group of 5 in football. But the haves are looking to get bigger piles of money together, just like haves everywhere since time immemorial have done. It’s not going to happen this year, but I bet within 10 years the postseason tournaments are either under other auspices or we’re seeing the NCAA on its last legs in that regard. But I’m convinced we’ll also see some other kind of dramatic legislation from Congress before then, too. Just because what we have now is unsustainable - in football, at least - so something different will have to emerge when the whole thing implodes, if not before. I just know absent some kind of new credibility for a governing body, whether the NCAA or its replacement, the big dogs are going to want a bigger and bigger share of the pie. Like my grandfather used to tell me, “I don’t really need any more land. I just want the land next to me.” |
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Post by wahinefan on Apr 17, 2024 19:47:06 GMT -5
This rule will make people who keep track of team rosters go NUTS.
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Post by wahinefan on Apr 17, 2024 19:51:46 GMT -5
Do not see any players staying at one university for 4 years, anymore. Head Coaches will now put more emphasis on scouting and recruiting other college athletes, then High School athletes.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 17, 2024 21:27:28 GMT -5
Do not see any players staying at one university for 4 years, anymore. Head Coaches will now put more emphasis on scouting and recruiting other college athletes, then High School athletes. The majority of players will stay at one university for 4 years. To be honest it’s been a while since players have had to sit out a year regardless. The NCAA was trying to put that genie back in the bottle at the behest of the member institutions but to no surprise figured out it wouldn’t hold up in court. I don’t think this admission of what was already the case changes things much. It’s the growth of NIL that will continue to play havoc on collegiate sports more than this ruling will. We’re honestly still in infancy with NIL. |
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Post by volleav on Apr 17, 2024 21:34:03 GMT -5
Do not see any players staying at one university for 4 years, anymore. Head Coaches will now put more emphasis on scouting and recruiting other college athletes, then High School athletes. People won't be able to transfer every year because after a certain amount of credit hours, transfer credits are not accepted. At the end of the day, a college degree, is still the endgame. |
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Post by slxpress on Apr 17, 2024 21:58:10 GMT -5
Do not see any players staying at one university for 4 years, anymore. Head Coaches will now put more emphasis on scouting and recruiting other college athletes, then High School athletes. People won't be able to transfer every year because after a certain amount of credit hours, transfer credits are not accepted. At the end of the day, a college degree, is still the endgame. Well...mostly. Mostly a degree is the end game. |
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