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Post by ineedajob on Nov 23, 2024 23:03:09 GMT -5
Look for some MACtion soon. Of the bottom 5 teams, only Kent St and Akron have been there for more than 2 seasons. If it's one of those bottom 5, I would guess Kent St (2-26 overall, 1-17 MAC).
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Post by charger0304 on Nov 23, 2024 23:44:55 GMT -5
Look for some MACtion soon. Of the bottom 5 teams, only Kent St and Akron have been there for more than 2 seasons. If it's one of those bottom 5, I would guess Kent St (2-26 overall, 1-17 MAC). Didn’t she get an extension not that long ago? Unless she’s leaving on her own volition?
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Post by ineedajob on Nov 24, 2024 9:37:29 GMT -5
Of the bottom 5 teams, only Kent St and Akron have been there for more than 2 seasons. If it's one of those bottom 5, I would guess Kent St (2-26 overall, 1-17 MAC). Didn’t she get an extension not that long ago? Unless she’s leaving on her own volition? You could be right, I’m not sure. I don’t see a reason for any of the others in the bottom 5 to only get one or two seasons. Maybe it’s someone not in the bottom 5?
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Post by seceason on Nov 24, 2024 9:51:11 GMT -5
Of the bottom 5 teams, only Kent St and Akron have been there for more than 2 seasons. If it's one of those bottom 5, I would guess Kent St (2-26 overall, 1-17 MAC). Didn’t she get an extension not that long ago? Unless she’s leaving on her own volition? What happened to Don Gromala?? Kent state wasn't great, but was around .500 in conference play most seasons under Don, then with no press release the job is posted. Did he get fired? I don't imagine he stepped down to be an assistant at Cleveland state by choice. Now they're winning 1, 2 and 4 conference matches a year under this coach. It was on the VT Jobs board in '21 and the question was asked but never answered. . .
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Post by sparty1855el on Nov 24, 2024 14:12:21 GMT -5
Look for some MACtion soon. Mike Gawlik resigns at Central Michigan to pursue other opportunities
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Post by 4theloveofvb on Nov 24, 2024 14:20:45 GMT -5
Jason Oliver (Toledo) also. Jason is leaving to coach for Grand Rapids professionally.
2 MAC Head Coach jobs open.
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 24, 2024 16:14:45 GMT -5
Didn’t she get an extension not that long ago? Unless she’s leaving on her own volition? What happened to Don Gromala?? Kent state wasn't great, but was around .500 in conference play most seasons under Don, then with no press release the job is posted. Did he get fired? I don't imagine he stepped down to be an assistant at Cleveland state by choice. Now they're winning 1, 2 and 4 conference matches a year under this coach. It was on the VT Jobs board in '21 and the question was asked but never answered. . . Yes, unceremoniously released.
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 24, 2024 16:55:40 GMT -5
I debated whether to post this here or to start another thread, but I figured that the people who care about the topic will be checking here more often than not.
As more announcements of coaches leaving their previous jobs, voluntarily or not; I wonder how many of them are looking at where they are and wondering how the sea change in college athletics, the ones that have happened and the ones that are going to happen plays a role in these coaches leaving. Some may be anticipating what is coming down the pipe, others are probably quite cognizant of what their administrations are planning in response to the changes and figured that their jobs, as hard as they were, are now going to get even harder, and are thinking that it is just not worth it.
I was talking with a referee and he said that some of the coaches that he knows are at least thinking about leaving the sport because the way sports are due to change makes the Olympics sports untenable and unsustainable. Football and basketball coaches are also leaving, and they are better of financially than the Olympic sports.
People have conjectured that there will be a top group of programs who will be competitive and in the hunt for the national championship, which is how it has been historically, but those who usually played the bridesmaid role in previous years may not be able to do so anymore. Being in the Power Conferences will not mean a thing anymore, there will be clear lines of demarcation emerging even amongst the haves.
Will the NCAA divisions mean anything anymore? Will there be wholesale movements into the Division II and Division III levels?
I am pretty sure that there will be some shocking teams transitioning from Division I to II or III.
Programs who were competitive won't be anymore, and programs with a puncher's chance won't have a chance anymore. The question is: what will their administrations do? Will they seek lower ground to remain competitive within that level or will they just give up.
So the purpose of this post is that I wonder if there will be a lot of experienced coaches chucking it all because they see the handwriting on the wall or know what is coming down? How many of the press releases saying the outgoing coach is pursuing other career opportunities are are actually true? More than before? Less than before? Will the ADs hire with lowered expectations because they know where they are going to headed in the next few years and they can't afford a competitive program and a commensurate head coach? I wonder how the hiring process will change as the ADs have the tough conversation with each candidate, will those conversations bog down for longer periods of time? How deeply will the ADs have to go into the pool to find a good fit? Same? Deeper than before? Much deeper than before?
Curious about what people are thinking, extrapolating wildly is a VolleyTalk tradition, so I am quite looking forward to this.
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Post by mervinswerved on Nov 24, 2024 17:39:09 GMT -5
I debated whether to post this here or to start another thread I've been out ten years or so and haven't missed it in several years. Because I stay pretty connected to the college scene through broadcast work, I still talk to a lot of coaches, some of whom have started asking about my career transition and how I figured out what to do with my life.
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Post by d3wiiavbfan on Nov 24, 2024 18:26:46 GMT -5
I debated whether to post this here or to start another thread, but I figured that the people who care about the topic will be checking here more often than not. As more announcements of coaches leaving their previous jobs, voluntarily or not; I wonder how many of them are looking at where they are and wondering how the sea change in college athletics, the ones that have happened and the ones that are going to happen plays a role in these coaches leaving. Some may be anticipating what is coming down the pipe, others are probably quite cognizant of what their administrations are planning in response to the changes and figured that their jobs, as hard as they were, are now going to get even harder, and are thinking that it is just not worth it. I was talking with a referee and he said that some of the coaches that he knows are at least thinking about leaving the sport because the way sports are due to change makes the Olympics sports untenable and unsustainable. Football and basketball coaches are also leaving, and they are better of financially than the Olympic sports. People have conjectured that there will be a top group of programs who will be competitive and in the hunt for the national championship, which is how it has been historically, but those who usually played the bridesmaid role in previous years may not be able to do so anymore. Being in the Power Conferences will not mean a thing anymore, there will be clear lines of demarcation emerging even amongst the haves. Will the NCAA divisions mean anything anymore? Will there be wholesale movements into the Division II and Division III levels? I am pretty sure that there will be some shocking teams transitioning from Division I to II or III. Programs who were competitive won't be anymore, and programs with a puncher's chance won't have a chance anymore. The question is: what will their administrations do? Will they seek lower ground to remain competitive within that level or will they just give up. So the purpose of this post is that I wonder if there will be a lot of experienced coaches chucking it all because they see the handwriting on the wall or know what is coming down? How many of the press releases saying the outgoing coach is pursuing other career opportunities are are actually true? More than before? Less than before? Will the ADs hire with lowered expectations because they know where they are going to headed in the next few years and they can't afford a competitive program and a commensurate head coach? I wonder how the hiring process will change as the ADs have the tough conversation with each candidate, will those conversations bog down for longer periods of time? How deeply will the ADs have to go into the pool to find a good fit? Same? Deeper than before? Much deeper than before? Curious about what people are thinking, extrapolating wildly is a VolleyTalk tradition, so I am quite looking forward to this. Gotta figure in NIL's too, I suppose. It probably goes back to the reasons D1 Virginia Men's hoops coach Tony Bennett has for hanging it up.
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 24, 2024 18:49:06 GMT -5
I debated whether to post this here or to start another thread, but I figured that the people who care about the topic will be checking here more often than not. As more announcements of coaches leaving their previous jobs, voluntarily or not; I wonder how many of them are looking at where they are and wondering how the sea change in college athletics, the ones that have happened and the ones that are going to happen plays a role in these coaches leaving. Some may be anticipating what is coming down the pipe, others are probably quite cognizant of what their administrations are planning in response to the changes and figured that their jobs, as hard as they were, are now going to get even harder, and are thinking that it is just not worth it. I was talking with a referee and he said that some of the coaches that he knows are at least thinking about leaving the sport because the way sports are due to change makes the Olympics sports untenable and unsustainable. Football and basketball coaches are also leaving, and they are better of financially than the Olympic sports. People have conjectured that there will be a top group of programs who will be competitive and in the hunt for the national championship, which is how it has been historically, but those who usually played the bridesmaid role in previous years may not be able to do so anymore. Being in the Power Conferences will not mean a thing anymore, there will be clear lines of demarcation emerging even amongst the haves. Will the NCAA divisions mean anything anymore? Will there be wholesale movements into the Division II and Division III levels? I am pretty sure that there will be some shocking teams transitioning from Division I to II or III. Programs who were competitive won't be anymore, and programs with a puncher's chance won't have a chance anymore. The question is: what will their administrations do? Will they seek lower ground to remain competitive within that level or will they just give up. So the purpose of this post is that I wonder if there will be a lot of experienced coaches chucking it all because they see the handwriting on the wall or know what is coming down? How many of the press releases saying the outgoing coach is pursuing other career opportunities are are actually true? More than before? Less than before? Will the ADs hire with lowered expectations because they know where they are going to headed in the next few years and they can't afford a competitive program and a commensurate head coach? I wonder how the hiring process will change as the ADs have the tough conversation with each candidate, will those conversations bog down for longer periods of time? How deeply will the ADs have to go into the pool to find a good fit? Same? Deeper than before? Much deeper than before? Curious about what people are thinking, extrapolating wildly is a VolleyTalk tradition, so I am quite looking forward to this. Gotta figure in NIL's too, I suppose. It probably goes back to the reasons D1 Virginia Men's hoops coach Tony Bennett has for hanging it up. Portal, NIL, new NCAA rules on numbers and payments. All of it. Add Nick Saban to that running total. The portal knocked out Coach K. And I am guessing Russ Rose. Not the portal by itself but the sea change in the recruiting and the marketplace.
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Post by sparty1855el on Nov 24, 2024 19:48:16 GMT -5
Jason Oliver (Toledo) also. Jason is leaving to coach for Grand Rapids professionally. 2 MAC Head Coach jobs open. Gawlik and his wife Katie also joining the Rise. Cathy George snatching up MAC coaches
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Post by utoolity on Nov 24, 2024 19:49:22 GMT -5
Jason Oliver (Toledo) also. Jason is leaving to coach for Grand Rapids professionally. 2 MAC Head Coach jobs open. Gawlik and his wife Katie also joining the Rise. Cathy George snatching up MAC coaches For what one more year? A merger? How long will they coexist with LOVB?
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Post by bprtbone on Nov 24, 2024 20:13:37 GMT -5
Jason Oliver (Toledo) also. Jason is leaving to coach for Grand Rapids professionally. 2 MAC Head Coach jobs open. Gawlik and his wife Katie also joining the Rise. Cathy George snatching up MAC coaches
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Post by 4theloveofvb on Nov 24, 2024 20:24:58 GMT -5
There is a MAJOR difference with the grind of being a head coach in college volleyball versus the professional leagues. Very curious to what the financial packages look like.
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