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Post by froggy640 on Nov 5, 2024 13:34:36 GMT -5
The best and most physical athletes in the USA don't play men's volleyball. Besides an athlete like George Roumain. All the USA kids who are that physical play basketball, football, baseball and other mainstream sports. Countries outside USA are different and that is why you see teams like UCI, UH, UCLA, USC, LBSU going after international kids. I think we get plenty physical kids playing volleyball, the type of physical you need for football and for the most part baseball are not what is needed for volleyball. Basketball there is correlation there but also the accessibility of the sport is wider reaching than almost any other. Foreign countries don’t play any of those sports you listed at the level we do in the states. Not to mention there is a TON of red tape keeping the men’s side of the sport from growing. I think volleyball is simply a bigger story in Europe and other foreign countries and the start to professional path of development is a lot more solid than the U.S. Cut the red tape and watch the sport grow exponentially! Basketball is played in all these countries... That being said I agree that there are countries with very developed systems to grow a strong pool of players. France has 9 poles for kids as young as 13 years old to go to boarding school and play / learn the game followed with CFCP (18-23 YO) within pro clubs ... |
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Post by 808 State on Nov 5, 2024 13:45:52 GMT -5
I think his VNL stint just propelled him to the next level and he proved himself that he can play with the big boys. Heck, he can be in Italy now! I think he's got more VB IQ than his brother tbh. I love Tread but...I'm not sure  |
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Post by xee on Nov 5, 2024 16:08:34 GMT -5
I mean, there's a pretty big difference between Tread playing high school and some U19 before going to Hawaii vs Nikolov starting at the VNL for his national team. Regardless of if he's overhyped or not, that's hardly equivalent and it's not a surprise Tread struggled with location and consistency I don’t think that there is that much of a difference in their games. Plus I doubt the pool of Bulgarian athletes is as big as the USA, not to mention Simeon having the connections to fast track his positioning within their national team pipeline. But yes, remains to be seen how good he really ends up being and if he even sticks around long enough for it to matter. I definitely think there is a significant difference, and remember that Simeon is a year younger, so whatever Tread looks like this year (much improved I would guess) that wouldn't really factor into how they both looked coming into college. They both have similar size and hands, but Simeon is more mobile and much more physical at the net |
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Post by wilbur on Nov 5, 2024 17:08:29 GMT -5
I don’t think that there is that much of a difference in their games. Plus I doubt the pool of Bulgarian athletes is as big as the USA, not to mention Simeon having the connections to fast track his positioning within their national team pipeline. But yes, remains to be seen how good he really ends up being and if he even sticks around long enough for it to matter. I definitely think there is a significant difference, and remember that Simeon is a year younger, so whatever Tread looks like this year (much improved I would guess) that wouldn't really factor into how they both looked coming into college. They both have similar size and hands, but Simeon is more mobile and much more physical at the net they are only 5 months apart in actual age, one year apart in college class, I would say several years apart in volleyball IQ age with Tread the junior and I assume many years apart in VB experience age with Simeon having many more touches, years playing and high level instruction. he will be very good this season... even if he stays for just one season, it will matter a lot. I think Tread is very good, I predicted last year, even before this time that he would earn the starting setter spot quickly, most UH fans doubted that. He was one of the better setters in the NCAA last year, this year he will be even better, top 3 behind Simeon and Rowan but Dyer and Dvorak may have something to show us. I think Simeon is a different animal and he will be the best player in the NCAA. |
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Post by babybacksets on Nov 5, 2024 17:09:01 GMT -5
I don’t think that there is that much of a difference in their games. Plus I doubt the pool of Bulgarian athletes is as big as the USA, not to mention Simeon having the connections to fast track his positioning within their national team pipeline. But yes, remains to be seen how good he really ends up being and if he even sticks around long enough for it to matter. I definitely think there is a significant difference, and remember that Simeon is a year younger, so whatever Tread looks like this year (much improved I would guess) that wouldn't really factor into how they both looked coming into college. They both have similar size and hands, but Simeon is more mobile and much more physical at the net Should make for a competitive season! LB, UH, UCI, and UCLA should all have good years and likely be in a field on their own, I don’t know who else will step into that echelon, I think GCU is unfortunately staring at a down year. |
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Post by babybacksets on Nov 5, 2024 17:14:46 GMT -5
I definitely think there is a significant difference, and remember that Simeon is a year younger, so whatever Tread looks like this year (much improved I would guess) that wouldn't really factor into how they both looked coming into college. They both have similar size and hands, but Simeon is more mobile and much more physical at the net they are only 5 months apart in actual age, one year apart in college class, I would say several years apart in volleyball IQ age with Tread the junior and I assume many years apart in VB experience age with Simeon having many more touches, years playing and high level instruction. he will be very good this season... even if he stays for just one season, it will matter a lot. I think Tread is very good, I predicted last year, even before this time that he would earn the starting setter spot quickly, most UH fans doubted that. He was one of the better setters in the NCAA last year, this year he will be even better, top 3 behind Simeon and Rowan but Dyer and Dvorak may have something to show us. I think Simeon is a different animal and he will be the best player in the NCAA. Yea I would say steroids will help you be a different animal physically than other teenage college freshman LOL |
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Post by Timeless on Nov 5, 2024 18:09:36 GMT -5
the op has a point though. What 17-year-old has a 79 mph heater? He's that good. I think he will be the volleyball equivalent of Carlos Alcaraz and Moni certainly has the skills to be the best player in the world in a few years.
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Post by xee on Nov 5, 2024 19:07:04 GMT -5
I definitely think there is a significant difference, and remember that Simeon is a year younger, so whatever Tread looks like this year (much improved I would guess) that wouldn't really factor into how they both looked coming into college. They both have similar size and hands, but Simeon is more mobile and much more physical at the net they are only 5 months apart in actual age, one year apart in college class, I would say several years apart in volleyball IQ age with Tread the junior and I assume many years apart in VB experience age with Simeon having many more touches, years playing and high level instruction. he will be very good this season... even if he stays for just one season, it will matter a lot. I think Tread is very good, I predicted last year, even before this time that he would earn the starting setter spot quickly, most UH fans doubted that. He was one of the better setters in the NCAA last year, this year he will be even better, top 3 behind Simeon and Rowan but Dyer and Dvorak may have something to show us. I think Simeon is a different animal and he will be the best player in the NCAA. A year younger in terms of age groups |
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Post by wilbur on Nov 5, 2024 22:09:40 GMT -5
they are only 5 months apart in actual age, one year apart in college class, I would say several years apart in volleyball IQ age with Tread the junior and I assume many years apart in VB experience age with Simeon having many more touches, years playing and high level instruction. he will be very good this season... even if he stays for just one season, it will matter a lot. I think Tread is very good, I predicted last year, even before this time that he would earn the starting setter spot quickly, most UH fans doubted that. He was one of the better setters in the NCAA last year, this year he will be even better, top 3 behind Simeon and Rowan but Dyer and Dvorak may have something to show us. I think Simeon is a different animal and he will be the best player in the NCAA. A year younger in terms of age groups yes, ...one year apart in college class... , but they are the same U19 international age group and have the same birth year of 2006. 95%+ of kids his age in the US are still in high school. |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Nov 6, 2024 11:20:28 GMT -5
The best and most physical athletes in the USA don't play men's volleyball. Besides an athlete like George Roumain. All the USA kids who are that physical play basketball, football, baseball and other mainstream sports. Countries outside USA are different and that is why you see teams like UCI, UH, UCLA, USC, LBSU going after international kids. I think we get plenty physical kids playing volleyball, the type of physical you need for football and for the most part baseball are not what is needed for volleyball. Basketball there is correlation there but also the accessibility of the sport is wider reaching than almost any other. Foreign countries don’t play any of those sports you listed at the level we do in the states. Not to mention there is a TON of red tape keeping the men’s side of the sport from growing. I think volleyball is simply a bigger story in Europe and other foreign countries and the start to professional path of development is a lot more solid than the U.S. Cut the red tape and watch the sport grow exponentially! This is very true because I wanted to play volleyball (I grew up in Texas) when I was younger; however, volleyball was not readily available for boys in the area that I grew up in. |
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Post by volleyeinstein on Nov 6, 2024 14:45:18 GMT -5
Is it just me or is Simeon Nikolov still taking steroids? ..... |
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Post by volleyeinstein on Nov 6, 2024 14:48:08 GMT -5
Is it just me or is Simeon Nikolov still taking steroids? He is not taking steroids. He might have growth hormone. I know that this has been done by very professional people in Bulgaria since a young age. Despite all the tests in European countries, it could not be found. I do not think that Ncaa will be able to find it. But kid is definitely not natural. |
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Post by volleyeinstein on Nov 6, 2024 14:48:57 GMT -5
Is it just me or is Simeon Nikolov still taking steroids? He is not taking steroids. He might have growth hormone. I know that this has been done by very professional people in Bulgaria since a young age. Despite all the tests in European countries, it could not be found. I do not think that Ncaa will be able to find it. But kid is definitely not natural. Also Same for his older brother. |
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Post by xee on Nov 6, 2024 16:58:22 GMT -5
I am like 99% sure he is not taking steroids. I am moderately educated about the effects steroids have on the body, both aesthetically and hormonally, and would be very surprised if he was taking any type of anabolic steroid that we traditionally associate with "PEDs".
That being said, I have heard secondhand from a former teammate of his that he is taking something. I would guess HGH or something similar. Feel free to dismiss that as a rumor/conspiracy since I am obviously not gonna say who it was that I talked to.
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Post by wilbur on Nov 6, 2024 17:49:02 GMT -5
am I the only one who is imagining Rocky IV replays of Ivan Drago on the treadmill, hitting the punch meter and getting roid injections every time I see this thread?
"Whatever He Hits, He Destroys"
Personally I think he just has really good genes and is natural and is the rare gifted athlete who has been groomed from a young age to play the sport, but the thread has been entertaining none the less.
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