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Post by 200backer on Nov 14, 2024 17:31:47 GMT -5
What does this mean lol, USC is way more expensive. do you think they meet full financial need for every student? I don't think, I know so. USC is a full-need meet school. USC doesn't even charge tuition if an admitted student's family makes less than $80,000. Are you delusional enough that you think someone coming from a family that makes say 100,000 dollars can afford USC? Also, it's a public vs. private school. apples to oranges |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 14, 2024 17:38:50 GMT -5
I don't think, I know so. USC is a full-need meet school. USC doesn't even charge tuition if an admitted student's family makes less than $80,000. Are you delusional enough that you think someone coming from a family that makes say 100,000 dollars can afford USC? Also, it's a public vs. private school. apples to oranges From your comments, I am skeptical you have knowledge of how financial aid works and what it means to meet full financial need. Yes, I know families on that income that can afford USC. A family with an income, for example, of $100,000 can receive up to $74,600 in a need-based scholarship grant alone per year (not an academic scholarship at all), that doesn't include other funding such as student loans, work-study, etc. I won't argue that there is a vast difference in financial aid in public vs. private schools, but, there are public institutions who meet 100% of demonstrated financial need. |
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Post by robtearle on Nov 14, 2024 17:46:34 GMT -5
Are you delusional enough that you think someone coming from a family that makes say 100,000 dollars can afford USC? Also, it's a public vs. private school. apples to oranges From your comments, I am skeptical you have knowledge of how financial aid works and what it means to meet full financial need. Yes, I know families on that income that can afford USC. A family with an income, for example, of $100,000 can receive up to $74,600 in a need-based scholarship grant alone per year (not an academic scholarship at all), that doesn't include other funding such as student loans, work-study, etc. I won't argue that there is a vast difference in financial aid in public vs. private schools, but, there are public institutions who meet 100% of demonstrated financial need. In-state tuition at UW-Madison for those whose families make $56K or less is free. financialaid.wisc.edu/uw-madison-pledges-four-years-free-tuition-and-fees-for-state-students-whose-families-earn-56000-or-less/ |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 14, 2024 17:52:03 GMT -5
From your comments, I am skeptical you have knowledge of how financial aid works and what it means to meet full financial need. Yes, I know families on that income that can afford USC. A family with an income, for example, of $100,000 can receive up to $74,600 in a need-based scholarship grant alone per year (not an academic scholarship at all), that doesn't include other funding such as student loans, work-study, etc. I won't argue that there is a vast difference in financial aid in public vs. private schools, but, there are public institutions who meet 100% of demonstrated financial need. In-state tuition at UW-Madison for those whose families make $56K or less is free. financialaid.wisc.edu/uw-madison-pledges-four-years-free-tuition-and-fees-for-state-students-whose-families-earn-56000-or-less/Correct! In-state. An out-of-state student from a low-income family is more likely to find USC more affordable. An in-state student will probably receive comparable packages from both institutions. It really was just a fun jab at rainbow - not that serious. Though I do find it common that people are unaware how affordable private schools at the elite level can be for low-income families. |
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Post by 200backer on Nov 14, 2024 17:58:22 GMT -5
Correct! In-state. An out-of-state student from a low-income family is more likely to find USC more affordable. An in-state student will probably receive comparable packages from both institutions. It really was just a fun jab at rainbow - not that serious. Though I do find it common that people are unaware how affordable private schools at the elite level can be for low-income families. I see your point but trying to pass the university of spoiled children off as a beacon of helping the poor is a crazy point to try to make on a volleyball thread |
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Post by jcvball22 on Nov 14, 2024 18:10:00 GMT -5
Correct! In-state. An out-of-state student from a low-income family is more likely to find USC more affordable. An in-state student will probably receive comparable packages from both institutions. It really was just a fun jab at rainbow - not that serious. Though I do find it common that people are unaware how affordable private schools at the elite level can be for low-income families. I see your point but trying to pass the university of spoiled children off as a beacon of helping the poor is a crazy point to try to make on a volleyball thread Hi! College Counselor here! Trojan is correct. For low-income students, USC is a far more affordable option than UW. UW, being a public school, packages students with Federal grants, work-study, etc as part of their financial aid to the lowest income admittees. They gap need-based financial aid and only rely on the FAFSA filings to give financial aid packages (which do not take into account cost-of-living by area adjustments). USC, being a private school, uses both FAFSA and the CSS Profile to determine financial aid awards and, for families that meet the lowest income threshold, they meet full need with no gapping. USC is also need-blind in admissions, so a student's level of financial need is not considered in the admissions process. UW is also, technically, need-blind but does not guarantee that they will meet full-need for students who are admitted. Not that this has anything to do with the match tonight, but a lot of people don't grasp that private schools, generally, give SIGNIFICANTLY better financial aid awards than public schools. |
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Post by exit237a on Nov 14, 2024 18:18:59 GMT -5
Working on links and stuff. Full disclosure, work has been a nightmare and also I have zero faith in my ability to stay awake for this.
Hope work gets better for you soon!
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Post by maigrey on Nov 14, 2024 18:35:40 GMT -5
I see your point but trying to pass the university of spoiled children off as a beacon of helping the poor is a crazy point to try to make on a volleyball thread Hi! College Counselor here! Trojan is correct. For low-income students, USC is a far more affordable option than UW. UW, being a public school, packages students with Federal grants, work-study, etc as part of their financial aid to the lowest income admittees. They gap need-based financial aid and only rely on the FAFSA filings to give financial aid packages (which do not take into account cost-of-living by area adjustments). USC, being a private school, uses both FAFSA and the CSS Profile to determine financial aid awards and, for families that meet the lowest income threshold, they meet full need with no gapping. USC is also need-blind in admissions, so a student's level of financial need is not considered in the admissions process. UW is also, technically, need-blind but does not guarantee that they will meet full-need for students who are admitted. Not that this has anything to do with the match tonight, but a lot of people don't grasp that private schools, generally, give SIGNIFICANTLY better financial aid awards than public schools. well at least rainbowbadger doesn't have to do a lot of research on fun facts this week  |
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Post by maigrey on Nov 14, 2024 18:54:21 GMT -5
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Post by SportyBucky on Nov 14, 2024 18:55:56 GMT -5
Cool. How about the match?! ❤️ No way I'm awake for the whole thing but excited!
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Nov 14, 2024 19:04:08 GMT -5
I hate alternate names for women's teams. It's so condescending. Anyway, Wisco/U$C - let's go. I had a friend/co-worker who went to USC. He told me it was sometimes referred to as the University of Spoiled Children. This one scares me some. Long flight, Thursday match, unfamiliar gym, pretty darn good team. If the Wisconsin players are lucky they may get to see a "Street Takeover" in front of Galen at the intersection. This happens when fun loving locals do burning rubber donuts in their hopped up cars in the intersection, the last one occurred in August. |
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Post by robtearle on Nov 14, 2024 19:11:44 GMT -5
I had a friend/co-worker who went to USC. He told me it was sometimes referred to as the University of Spoiled Children. This one scares me some. Long flight, Thursday match, unfamiliar gym, pretty darn good team. If the Wisconsin players are lucky they may get to see a "Street Takeover" in front of Galen at the intersection. This happens when fun loving locals do burning rubber donuts in their hopped up cars in the intersection, the last one occurred in August. I ran in the Mother's Day Revlon 5K a half-dozen times - start and end outside the Coliseum - and always parked in a ramp just the other side of the freeway from Figuroa and Jefferson. Not the greatest neighborhood, but completely safe on a Sunday morning in May. The Galen Center wasn't there at the time - late 1990s, early 2000s |
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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 14, 2024 19:22:21 GMT -5
11 EST? Jeepers. Who's responsible for this. No wonder I've barely seen any of the trojans. Did the PAC run 8PM starts?
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Post by rainbowbadger on Nov 14, 2024 19:26:35 GMT -5
Links & fun facts bump, courtesy of one of my favorite bands.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 14, 2024 19:32:40 GMT -5
I see your point but trying to pass the university of spoiled children off as a beacon of helping the poor is a crazy point to try to make on a volleyball thread But I am one of those poor students, so I am forever grateful for the opportunity and will continue to champion elite private institutions as great options for students, who especially would like to attend an out-of-state university for any reason. But don't worry, I have been called a "spoiled" child plenty of times simply for the affiliation, despite my family making the line for full-need. Now what is relevant to Volleyball (or especially VolleyTalk): Without USC, I probably wouldn't have had an interest in volleyball as much as I do now (or played club vb), and VT might not have ended up receiving my Bracketology services  |
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