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Post by Phoenix4547 on Jul 28, 2025 13:38:10 GMT -5
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jul 28, 2025 14:55:44 GMT -5
The article seems a little unfair to the 4-5 other citizens who surrounded the perp, including the guy - also an ex-Marine - who first went after him and bashed him with a shopping cart.
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Post by Phoenix4547 on Jul 29, 2025 0:00:45 GMT -5
The article seems a little unfair to the 4-5 other citizens who surrounded the perp, including the guy - also an ex-Marine - who first went after him and bashed him with a shopping cart. All of them banded together, good for them.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 29, 2025 2:08:41 GMT -5
Yes, of course CanAm focuses only on the fact that one of the (many) bystanders who confronted and stopped the guy was armed with a handgun. Meanwhile also today a guy with rifle killed four people (including an off-duty cop) before killing himself in NYC. News reports say the rifle was an M4, though it's not clear if they mean an actual military full-auto M4 or a civilian semi-auto copy.
Although the guy with the knife stabbed 11 people, they are all expected to survive. While people can (and sometimes do) go around with a knife trying to kill people, the ones with the guns (especially the military and military-style rifles) are much more deadly.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jul 29, 2025 7:15:52 GMT -5
Hero, have you noticed how Democrats have such a difficult time giving credit to people who have served our country and have done something heroic. Why is that Mike Garrison and Getty
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Post by bobinmd on Jul 29, 2025 7:25:40 GMT -5
Hero, have you noticed how Democrats have such a difficult time giving credit to people who have served our country and have done something heroic. Why is that Mike Garrison and Getty Not a Dem and no I’ve noticed no such thing. I have noticed the way Orange (bone spur joke here) has always shown disdain for the military. Your fake patriotism is just so obvious. You would not be able to pronounce, let alone spell, the places I served our country. 🌾🐈
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Post by zentu on Jul 29, 2025 7:26:44 GMT -5
Hero, have you noticed how Democrats have such a difficult time giving credit to people who have served our country and have done something heroic. Why is that Mike Garrison and Getty What a load of crap. You have the balls to say that while supporting a president who ordered the name of a US destroyer to be obscured, the John McCain, named for an American hero, because McCain called Trump a crook. You support a man who has called those who died defending this country suckers and losers. And now you want to talk about Democrats not supporting heroes. Where were your Republican heroes when they revealed the town child molester there, huh? For that matter, where was the fair and balanced press? Nowhere, it seems. Go back to defending pedophilia rather than trying to claim a false patriotism that is fake, fake, fake. Assohle.
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Post by jayj79 on Jul 29, 2025 7:38:45 GMT -5
I have zero issue giving credit to the people who helped stop the attacker (and have gratitude to those who served) but glorifying the involvement of firearms is dumb. Guns escalate the situation. Stray bullets can seriously injure or kill innocent bystanders, and making guns readily available means evil-doers are more likely to have and use them. psycho knife guy could be subdued by grabbing a baseball bat from the sporting goods aisle (or a shopping cart, or part of a clothing rack)
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Post by Phoenix4547 on Jul 29, 2025 7:43:15 GMT -5
Yes, of course CanAm focuses only on the fact that one of the (many) bystanders who confronted and stopped the guy was armed with a handgun. Meanwhile also today a guy with rifle killed four people (including an off-duty cop) before killing himself in NYC. News reports say the rifle was an M4, though it's not clear if they mean an actual military full-auto M4 or a civilian semi-auto copy. Although the guy with the knife stabbed 11 people, they are all expected to survive. While people can (and sometimes do) go around with a knife trying to kill people, the ones with the guns (especially the military and military-style rifles) are much more deadly. Mike you're being a dingus. The Walmart story happened on Saturday and I made my thread Monday morning. The NYC attack happened Monday evening. Your attempt to make it seem like I focused on one story over the other is some moody/jsquare level dishonesty.
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Post by Phoenix4547 on Jul 29, 2025 7:52:17 GMT -5
I have zero issue giving credit to the people who helped stop the attacker (and have gratitude to those who served) but glorifying the involvement of firearms is dumb. Guns escalate the situation. Stray bullets can seriously injure or kill innocent bystanders, and making guns readily available means evil-doers are more likely to have and use them. psycho knife guy could be subdued by grabbing a baseball bat from the sporting goods aisle (or a shopping cart, or part of a clothing rack) Okay, let's get into this particular situation. Did someone having a firearm "escalate the situation"? Were there any stray bullets in this situation or even a discharging of a firearm? Do you think someone who is stabbing people, is going to be more concerned about someone pointing a bat or a shopping cart at them or a gun? Just because a gun was involved doesn't mean that it's being glorified, but to discount the role it may have played in this situation being resolved is illogical. imo
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Post by jsquare on Jul 29, 2025 8:19:23 GMT -5
I have zero issue giving credit to the people who helped stop the attacker (and have gratitude to those who served) but glorifying the involvement of firearms is dumb. Guns escalate the situation. Stray bullets can seriously injure or kill innocent bystanders, and making guns readily available means evil-doers are more likely to have and use them. psycho knife guy could be subdued by grabbing a baseball bat from the sporting goods aisle (or a shopping cart, or part of a clothing rack) Okay, let's get into this particular situation. Did someone having a firearm "escalate the situation"? Were there any stray bullets in this situation or even a discharging of a firearm? Do you think someone who is stabbing people, is going to be more concerned about someone pointing a bat or a shopping cart at them or a gun? Just because a gun was involved doesn't mean that it's being glorified, but to discount the role it may have played in this situation being resolved is illogical. imo Let's get into this particular situation "A lone attacker armed with an assault-style rifle killed four people, including a New York Police Department (NYPD) officer, before fatally shooting himself inside a skyscraper in New York’s Manhattan area, according to the police." www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/29/nyc-shooting-what-we-know-about-the-victims-suspect-shane-tamura
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Post by Phoenix4547 on Jul 29, 2025 8:26:37 GMT -5
Okay, let's get into this particular situation. Did someone having a firearm "escalate the situation"? Were there any stray bullets in this situation or even a discharging of a firearm? Do you think someone who is stabbing people, is going to be more concerned about someone pointing a bat or a shopping cart at them or a gun? Just because a gun was involved doesn't mean that it's being glorified, but to discount the role it may have played in this situation being resolved is illogical. imo Let's get into this particular situation "A lone attacker armed with an assault-style rifle killed four people, including a New York Police Department (NYPD) officer, before fatally shooting himself inside a skyscraper in New York’s Manhattan area, according to the police." www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/29/nyc-shooting-what-we-know-about-the-victims-suspect-shane-tamuraMake a thread.
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Post by jsquare on Jul 29, 2025 8:49:36 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 29, 2025 9:15:44 GMT -5
It appears as if the guy in New York who killed four people (and himself) was targeting the NFL, but he got off at the wrong floor and killed a bunch of random people who just happened to work in the same building as the NFL HQ.
It also appears from the stories that an *unarmed* Marine vet was actually the first person to confront and try to stop the knife-stabber, and the guy with the gun came in a little later. But we know which part of the story CanAm wanted to focus on. I saw some video and it does look like the guy finally gave up the knife after being threatened with the gun, but there were several people surrounding him and helping to stop the stabbing.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jul 29, 2025 9:21:17 GMT -5
Hero, have you noticed how Democrats have such a difficult time giving credit to people who have served our country and have done something heroic. Why is that Mike Garrison and Getty No one said anything of the sort. Shut the f*** up.
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