Kari Gregory

[wang pu]

Does anyone know if she has gotten the surgery for her knee? Also, when college athletes get surgery, does the university pick up the tab? I remember when the Wahine doctor passed away a couple of years ago, there was mention that he performed surgery for the team. Just curious how that works.

[pedro el leon]

Yes, they pick up the bill. When you commit to a program you automatically are put on the school's insurance.

Furthermore, if the injury is career ending, the NCAA must pay for the remainder of the athletes education that would have been paid for by the scholarship. This allows the school to free up the scholarship w/o screwing over the athlete from an education. It used to be that the athlete would be #$@^ out of luck if they got hurt, but a lawsuit in the '80's changed that.

[pedro el leon]

oh, yeah, hi I'm new.

[IdahoBoy]

What knee surgery?

Welcome, kevin.

[pedro el leon]

Thanks!

Apparently you're an Idaho fan so maybe you can answer me this... When I went to Wazzu I remember a girl that really impressed me in the '02 season, I think her name was McCaffrey(sp?) and the next year ('03) when they played us she wasn't there anymore. Did she transfer someplace? Because I was pretty sure she was only a freshman and I remember thinking they would be pretty good in the future.

[Keystonekid]

The NCAA does not have to pay for anyone's surgery at anytime. The NCAA can grant the school a medical hardship, which allows the school to continue scholarshiping the essentially retired player, but gives them the scholarship back, to offer another player to replace her.

[BearClause]

keystonekid said:

The NCAA does not have to pay for anyone's surgery at anytime. The NCAA can grant the school a medical hardship, which allows the school to continue scholarshiping the essentially retired player, but gives them the scholarship back, to offer another player to replace her.

In a nutshell, the student-athlete's athletic department (not the NCAA) can pick up the tab for financial aid after a career ending injury. Many athletic departments have funds set aside for this. At that point, the scholarship would no longer count against that sport's limits. However, the student-athlete can never come back and play that sport again at that school (i.e. miracle recovery) unless the athletic dept is willing to make that SA a "counter" for all the time she received that medical hardship scholarship, which would either require they be under the limit each year, or an NCAA violation. They might allow for a waiver, but I'm not sure on what the standard might be.

15.3.3.1.2 Injury or Illness Policy. It is not permissible for an institution to assure the prospect that it automatically will continue a grant-in-aid past the one-year period if the recipient sustains an injury that prevents him or her from competing in intercollegiate athletics, but an institutional representative may inform the prospect of the regular institutional policy related to renewal or continuation of aid past the one-year period for recipients who become ill or injured during their participation.

15.5.1.3 Counter Who Becomes Injured or Ill. A counter who becomes injured or ill to the point that he or she apparently never again will be able to participate in intercollegiate athletics shall not be considered a counter beginning with the academic year following the incapacitating injury or illness.

15.5.1.3.1 Incapacitating Injury or Illness. If an incapacitating injury or illness occurs prior to a student-athlete’s participation in athletically related activities and results in the student-athlete’s inability to compete ever again, the student-athlete shall not be counted within the institution’s maximum financial aid award limitations for the current, as well as subsequent, academic years. However, if the incapacitating injury or illness occurs on or after the student-athlete’s participation in countable athletically related activities in the sport, the student-athlete shall be counted in the institution’s maximum financial aid limitations for the current academic year but need not be counted in subsequent academic years. (Adopted: 1/10/91; Revised: 3/26/04)

15.5.1.3.2 Change in Circumstances. If circumstances change and the student-athlete subsequently practices or competes at the institution at which the incapacitating injury or illness occurred, the student-athlete again shall become a counter, and the institution shall be required to count that financial aid under the limitations of this bylaw in the sport in question during each academic year in which the financial aid was received. (Revised: 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01)

15.5.1.3.3 Waiver. The Management Council, by a two-thirds majority of its members present and voting, may waive the requirements of Bylaw 15.5.1.3.2 upon determination that sufficient documentation is available from competent medical authorities to indicate that the original injury or illness clearly appeared to be incapacitating and that there was no reasonable expectation that the student-athlete ever again would be able to participate in intercollegiate athletics.

[Mumsie]

kevin said:

Thanks!

Apparently you're an Idaho fan so maybe you can answer me this... When I went to Wazzu I remember a girl that really impressed me in the '02 season, I think her name was McCaffrey(sp?) and the next year ('03) when they played us she wasn't there anymore. Did she transfer someplace? Because I was pretty sure she was only a freshman and I remember thinking they would be pretty good in the future.

I can answer that. Laura McCaffrey was a Sophmore in 2002 and was a very good player for UI with a lot of promise. She decided towards the end of that season that she didn't have the "love" for volleyball anymore and wanted to quit playing and go home to Colorado. The girls wished her the best and she left. She was well-liked.

[IdahoBoy]

vandalmom said:

kevin said:

Thanks!

Apparently you're an Idaho fan so maybe you can answer me this... When I went to Wazzu I remember a girl that really impressed me in the '02 season, I think her name was McCaffrey(sp?) and the next year ('03) when they played us she wasn't there anymore. Did she transfer someplace? Because I was pretty sure she was only a freshman and I remember thinking they would be pretty good in the future.

I can answer that. Laura McCaffrey was a Sophmore in 2002 and was a very good player for UI with a lot of promise. She decided towards the end of that season that she didn't have the "love" for volleyball anymore and wanted to quit playing and go home to Colorado. The girls wished her the best and she left. She was well-liked.

Yep.... and fun to watch.

[wang pu]

idahoboy said:

What knee surgery?

Wasn't there talk about her needing surgery after she injured her knee earlier in the season?

[IdahoBoy]

dakrisve said:

idahoboy said:

What knee surgery?

Wasn't there talk about her needing surgery after she injured her knee earlier in the season?

There is always speculation, here...

I haven't heard any real "talk" about it.

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idahoboy said:

dakrisve said:

Wasn't there talk about her needing surgery after she injured her knee earlier in the season?

There is always speculation, here...

I haven't heard any real "talk" about it.

I believe you're right, IB. I sort of recall it being mentioned by Jim and/or Chris on one of the telecasts that she might need off-season surgery, but nothing official that I can recall was put forth by the team/coaches/program/department that she was definitely having surgery.

[5100]

So what's gonna happen to Kari Gregory next season? Is she going to start?