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Lewis
Feb 29, 2004 21:25:16 GMT -5
Post by vb on Feb 29, 2004 21:25:16 GMT -5
Is there any reason why the NCAA champ only has 10 home games? Calif teams won't go there in the winter?
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Lewis
Mar 1, 2004 0:04:27 GMT -5
Post by VBCrusin on Mar 1, 2004 0:04:27 GMT -5
Excuse me, but it's tough to leave Sunny California with t-shirt weather in the winter to go to cold & snowy Lewis. We have two good reasons: (1) We can't find Lewis on the map (where the heck is this college); (2) We don't have jackets or cold weather gear...the closest thing to east coast or midwest cold weather coats we have...is to glue some fur on the collars of our California-Hawaiian shirts. Besides, ask the Lewis players and I bet they would prefer to thaw out in our warm sun. Eat your heart out!!! VBCrusin
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Lewis
Mar 1, 2004 3:37:38 GMT -5
Post by just...theDH on Mar 1, 2004 3:37:38 GMT -5
I don't know about you down there in OC Vbcrusin, but here in the South Bay it's been cold and windy and rainy. Certainly not t-shirt weather.
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Lewis
Mar 1, 2004 3:57:55 GMT -5
Post by VBCrusin on Mar 1, 2004 3:57:55 GMT -5
Sorry theDH,
I should have qualified my comments to SOUTHERN CA only. I live 3 blocks from the beach and it's paradise down here...then again, all you "snowbound" people, stay where you are and don't move here. We're getting too over-populated here, which creates a parking problem. Just "Love us" from afar. Thank you.
Sorry about the windy and cold South Bay...I love to visit there, but I'll wait for better weather. I'm spoiled, so sue me!
VBCrusin
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Lewis
Mar 1, 2004 4:02:09 GMT -5
Post by just...theDH on Mar 1, 2004 4:02:09 GMT -5
Hey VBcrusin, South Bay=Manhattan, Redondo, Hermosa Beach. Thats not Southern Cal? Thats about 30 minutes from Huntington.
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Lewis
Mar 1, 2004 4:05:51 GMT -5
Post by VBCrusin on Mar 1, 2004 4:05:51 GMT -5
Again my mistake...
I was under the impression that yoiu were in the Bay area...hey. It's late and I was just outside talking on my cell. Pretty nice outside.
VBCrusin
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Lewis
Mar 1, 2004 4:07:29 GMT -5
Post by VBCrusin on Mar 1, 2004 4:07:29 GMT -5
Besides theDH, We, here in Huntington Beach, pay higher taxes to get the better weather than Manhattan and Hermosa Beaches. tee hee.
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Lewis
Mar 1, 2004 9:27:22 GMT -5
Post by benwhipdrofn on Mar 1, 2004 9:27:22 GMT -5
To actually answer the question...Mr. Southern-Eat-your-heart-out-I'm-in-nice-weather-California ) is somewhat right. Most teams do not want to travel to Lewis. On Lewis behalf, they have to pay for all accomodiations so it is much easier to simply travel there. This year with the Pepperdine tourney, it cost Lewis a pretty penny. Pepperdine has always refused in the past to travel to Lewis. From what I understand, which I could be wrong, but Div. 1 schools have the option to travel to a Div. 2 school. They do not have to, it is up to them.
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Lewis
Mar 1, 2004 9:47:40 GMT -5
Post by midwestfan on Mar 1, 2004 9:47:40 GMT -5
Hey, I stayed in Huntington Beach when I was out for the first NCAA (men's) final four at Long Beach. We had a lot of fun. Last year we stayed in Anaheim and did the Disney thing. It's hard to beat the Huntington Beach, Newport and Laguna (sp?) area for their beauty.
West teams coming east (besides Pepperdine @ Lewis): USC, UCSD and BYU all came east this year. I think that's pretty good!
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Lewis
Mar 1, 2004 14:04:20 GMT -5
Post by VBbeast on Mar 1, 2004 14:04:20 GMT -5
"From what I understand, which I could be wrong, but Div. 1 schools have the option to travel to a Div. 2 school. They do not have to, it is up to them." =====================================
Actually there is no rule stipulating D1 only have to travel to D2s if they want to. It comes down to whether any school wants to travel to another outside their conference or not.
It is considered good form to return a visit to a school if they come to your place, but not everyone does that.
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Lewis
Mar 1, 2004 15:50:45 GMT -5
Post by vb on Mar 1, 2004 15:50:45 GMT -5
To actually answer the question...Mr. Southern-Eat-your-heart-out-I'm-in-nice-weather-California ) is somewhat right. Most teams do not want to travel to Lewis. On Lewis behalf, they have to pay for all accomodiations so it is much easier to simply travel there. This year with the Pepperdine tourney, it cost Lewis a pretty penny. Pepperdine has always refused in the past to travel to Lewis. From what I understand, which I could be wrong, but Div. 1 schools have the option to travel to a Div. 2 school. They do not have to, it is up to them. Wait!!! Are you telling me the Lewis has to pay for Pepperdine to travel to Lewis? IMO Pepperdines greatest recruiting tool is coming to Chicago where 1/2 of their team is from. It was kinda cool seeing hundreds of the Pepperdines players friends, parents, family, coaches in the stands at Lewis. (Actually making Pepperdine the "home" team.) There must have been a hundred Hein shirts alone! Pepperdine seems to recruit the best Chicago player every year. I would be amazed if Pepperdine is so cheap to have Lewis pay for it.
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Lewis
Mar 2, 2004 19:15:53 GMT -5
Post by Roofan on Mar 2, 2004 19:15:53 GMT -5
VB
I hate to bag on you twice in 1 day, but I have to take you to the woodshed again. (Though not as hard as my Carthage beating!) ;D
Pepperdine did recieve a lot of money to come to Lewis, but it wasn't cuz they were cheap. Hawaii OFTEN helps out visiting teams to come to the island. (Usually by providing the hotel...etc.) NOBODY who accpts this to come to the island is ever considered cheap, cuz UH gets it back in the gate they draw anyway.
1st off, there are few if ANY west coast teams who travel to play MIVA or EIVA teams. The risk/reward just isn't there. If they win on the road...great they were supposed to. If they lose, it makes them look bad. Throw in the fact that road trips cost lots of money, something few if any athletic department's want to spend on a bottom feeder sport like Men's Volleyball.
MIVA teams go West cuz it helps them get better. When you have only 4-6 teams each year east of Provo that are any good, you need the competition. In the MPSF there is always great teams to play, so there is no reason to spend anything to go on the road to play a match that is usually vs. a team that may not even make the MPSF playoffs if they were in the conferance.
In Pepp's case, it was simple...
1. Lewis paid a TON to get them to come to Lewis. (Lewis hoped to make it back on the gate...not sure if they did) 2. It WAS a nice way to show off guys like Rooney and Hein (and to a lesser extent Hulse and Kim) to their Midwest roots. 3. They wanted revenge ASAP after last year.
Just a last sidenote on this...Back in 1994 there were MANY west coast teams that used to come east for matches. (usually with the midwest helping out in some way) Then IPFW who was hosting the Final 4 that year got upset in the MIVA's. Well IP got the at large bid (the only time a MPSF or West coaster didn't get the at large) and the MPSF coaches banded together and said why should we go and help them out by playing on their courts. You know who led that charge? Mr. Dunphy himself!
Roofan
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Lewis
Mar 2, 2004 20:09:37 GMT -5
Post by chilipalmer on Mar 2, 2004 20:09:37 GMT -5
Awww, poor wittle west coast teams didn't get the at warge bid...boo-hoo.
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Lewis
Mar 2, 2004 20:15:54 GMT -5
Post by midwestfan on Mar 2, 2004 20:15:54 GMT -5
I knew that about 1994 ... Stanford was p***** from what I heard. I thought maybe they would have gotten over it ... in I don't know, like 10 years . That attitude does nothing for promoting the sport of men's volleyball.
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