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Post by midwestfan on Mar 4, 2004 20:03:20 GMT -5
Exactly!!! That's where a 28 yr old should be ... coaching! Giving the benefit of his years of experience to younger players  . |
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Post by midwestfan on Mar 4, 2004 20:06:35 GMT -5
I don't know anything about Turkey but I guess I would assume that they do have a professional league.
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Post by benwhipdrofn on Mar 4, 2004 20:11:29 GMT -5
maybe, but he isn't breaking any rules on age.
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Post by Beachy on Mar 4, 2004 20:16:02 GMT -5
To those who feel the midwest and east HAS to recruit older, foreign players....think again. Andy Hein is a great example of a player out of the midwest that came to Pepp and sunny southern Cali (yes, we have great weather, I hope someone gets mad about that). If you saw Hein play last year as a frosh....we all wondered what Dunphy was thinking. ....Hein was NOT an instant phenom. Dunphy recruited an athlete who was trainable and then COACHED him. I bet Hein was not heavily recruited by many schools in the east....I know someone will correct me if this is wrong. He got coached and improved. I still think that east coast and midwest schools can be the same thing. Saying that east and midwest schools HAVE to recruit outside the US is a crutch to all the coaching staffs at those schools.
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Post by benwhipdrofn on Mar 4, 2004 20:19:35 GMT -5
I don't look at it as a crutch, it's an option. I have to insert here that Ryan Stuntz our fantastic libero is from calif. Maybe, the midwest looks at recruiting players like that also foreign players haha, just a joke.
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Post by midwestfan on Mar 4, 2004 20:27:02 GMT -5
Ok, not older foreign players ... just foreign players. They can still be from another country and not be in their mid 20's when they decide to go to school.
And from what I understand Andy was heavily recruited by the midwest and the east, as was Sean. In fact, Lewis went after one of those guys with a vengence but obviously couldn't compete with the Pepperdine experience and Dunphy (sp).
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Post by benwhipdrofn on Mar 4, 2004 20:53:02 GMT -5
I like the variety of the players...the great melting pot of volleyball the midwest haha
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Post by sIsam on Mar 5, 2004 1:50:29 GMT -5
Just out of curiousity, what does Turkey have as far as pro leagues are concerned? Just like most of the countries in Europe, Turkey also has a very strong club system. Local and national leagues for all age groups and pros are in place (both in man and women). Players who play for clubs also player for their highschools or colleges. There's not restriction on what level of club you're playing. For example, top women's turkish club eczacibasi has a player in their A team who still attends HS. She plays for Eczacibasi (together with likes of Ruzic, Hanikoglu, Rangelova etc) and also for her highschool team. As far as I know, they do not allow any foreign players on HS teams here though... One thing that makes the US popular for turkish players is that it gives them a chance to an education while they keep playing. This is an impossibility in Turkey. If you're playing Div I on a good team, there's almost no way to continue your college education. |
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Post by fightingminime on Mar 5, 2004 3:04:29 GMT -5
To those who feel the midwest and east HAS to recruit older, foreign players....think again. Andy Hein is a great example of a player out of the midwest that came to Pepp and sunny southern Cali (yes, we have great weather, I hope someone gets mad about that). If you saw Hein play last year as a frosh....we all wondered what Dunphy was thinking. ....Hein was NOT an instant phenom. Dunphy recruited an athlete who was trainable and then COACHED him. I bet Hein was not heavily recruited by many schools in the east....I know someone will correct me if this is wrong. He got coached and improved. I still think that east coast and midwest schools can be the same thing. Saying that east and midwest schools HAVE to recruit outside the US is a crutch to all the coaching staffs at those schools. Hmmmm . . . I don't know much re: Men's volleyball but I would guess at 6'11" (he's something like that tall right?) he was recruited a LOT of places and that he is getting better because of training and that he finally grew into his gol' dang body. That's tall yo! |
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Post by cougarize on Mar 5, 2004 3:54:16 GMT -5
On another note, what are opinions on giving recognition to the runner-up as title holder? I think it makes sense. In any other competition the 1st runner-up gets the title if the champ is DQ'd or can't fill the shoes. What does everyone think about that? I have always thought that a team should win a title, not back into one. No matter if Lewis had an illegible player or not, or whether Hawaii had one or not, a team has to earn it. |
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