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Post by roy on Mar 9, 2004 3:40:10 GMT -5
Warriors win 30-28, 28-30, 30-20, 30-19. Link from USC usctrojans.ocsn.com/sports/m-volley/recaps/030904aaa.htmlLooking at the box score, Hawaii did a really great job in all departments, except serving. 10 aces and 29 service errors. They gave an entire game to USC just on their serves.
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Post by Bookumdanoaloha on Mar 9, 2004 4:24:11 GMT -5
A Win is A Win. USC has got to be the worst team in the league. Their gym Stinks. Their setters are the worst in the league. Their jump serves didn't present much of a problem, and Jose and Alfred did a nice job of passing tonite. USC couldn't stop Delano's serves and kills all nite. USC middles are horrible except for Jeff Bailey. Brazilian OHs carries this team. Tippett showed some nice things.
Question? Are all Brazilian players "cry babies". Now I know why the American Olympic Teams hated the Brazilian players over the years. Bunch of "winers".
Saw Dunphy and his boys scouting the game up in the balcony. Put USC away tommorrow get back to the Islands. It's been a long trip.
Bookumdanoaloha
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Post by socalfan on Mar 9, 2004 11:39:19 GMT -5
Gotta agree with Bookum, USC is the worst team in the league. They have a great football team but their volleyball program is pathetic. The team sucks except for J. Bailey, the setters suck and their gym is worst than a rec center gym. I can't believe they charge $6 for parking and $5 for admission. The USC band is pretty good.
I wasn't impressed with Hawaii, they should have blown this team out of gym. They were actually laughing and smiling after losing the second game. I just can't picture Costas, Tony, Kimo and Norberg laughing after losing a game to a pathetic team.
Like I said before this team has no HEART.
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Post by eastcstvbfan on Mar 9, 2004 12:00:48 GMT -5
WHY ARE THEY SO BAD? ? They won National champs! They are in Sunny LA. Olympic Level Coach? USC for gods sake!
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Post by bangdown on Mar 9, 2004 12:22:57 GMT -5
Olympic Level Coach?
We are talking USC Men's Volleyball right?
eastcstvbfan, what are you saying? I'm really curious. You begin talking about Football and then you mention olympic level coach...you have to be talking about volleyball since Football is not an olympic sport. Could you have meant women's volley?
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Mar 9, 2004 12:59:30 GMT -5
Delano and Company do well against teams that cannot block. Delano can get away with it because he can hit over most blockers but the longer the games go the less he is able to do this. If that were any other team in the MPSF they were playing last night, they would have lost. They were fortunate to not lose the 1st game. Pepperdine will block the heck out of Hawaii if they don't make some significant changes. Beckwith continues to lack harmony with his middles. They have got to get in sync if they want to go anywhere. Good to see Delgado have a good game. He has heart. Tuyay has heart. I hate to see him riding the pine.
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Post by eastcstvbfan on Mar 9, 2004 13:02:57 GMT -5
Pat Powers played in the Olympics. Havent they won all kinds of National Championships in Volleyball at one time. How can USC be the worst team in West? Behind California Northridge?
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Post by Bookumdanoaloha on Mar 9, 2004 13:19:11 GMT -5
It think I was a little too hard on USC. Their Gym still stinks.
Hawaii needs to establish the Middle sooner in the match. The Middles are too inexperienced. You need to set "to them" and not set "to a spot" for them to hit. Beckwith tends to set to a spot, and the Middles are just not getting there. Their footwork is terrible (although they do have quick feet), and they can't read the hitters.
BYU is coming to town, and Hawaii is going to get worked in the Middle. Beckwith has lost confidence in the Middles, and the Middles haven't given him any reason to think otherwise. Burke and Gorney is going to have a field day in the Middle.
Again, I hope USC can turn it around. It's just that their roster is weak. How can you give Gio Altumura 80% scholarship to a 5'10' setter? That was Dumb.
Bookumdanoaloha
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Post by bangdown on Mar 9, 2004 13:21:25 GMT -5
Okay... Pat Powers is no longer coaching at USC. He hasn't for 2 years now...plus he was terrible. They were pretty successful at one point but have struggled hard over the last few years mostly due to Powers. and... Northridge is much better than SC
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Post by bangdown on Mar 9, 2004 13:25:52 GMT -5
wait...wait...wait...They gave 80% to Gio? Well, that was money well spent with Killian coming in huh? Gio is a nice kid though.
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Post by roy on Mar 9, 2004 13:29:19 GMT -5
An article from the Daily Trojan. They are a little critical of both teams, but from the sound of the match from the other posters and the stats, I think I can see why.
Warriors give more fight, defeat USC
The USC men's volleyball team, previously winners of three straight, falls, 3-1, to No. 2 Hawaii on Monday night. By ALEX DICKEL Contributing Writer
Embarrassingly out-fanned in its own gym, the USC men's volleyball team failed to extend its three-match winning streak Monday night, losing to No. 2 Hawaii by a score of 3-1 (28-30, 30-28, 20-30, 19-30).
The Trojans will play the Warriors again tonight at 7 p.m. at the North Gym in the second match of their back-to-back series.
The first two games of the match were as exciting as any this season, as both teams exchanged scores without a clear leader until the very end.
The Trojans (6-13 overall, 4-8 Mountain Pacific Sports Federation) fought hard in game one and seldom let the Warriors (12-5 overall, 9-4 MPSF) extend their lead to more than two points.
Down by two on the Warriors' game point, the Trojans felt a glimmer of hope as Hawaii's serve hit the net. However, the undaunted Warriors finished the game on the ensuing play.
Coming out with added fire after their near loss in the first game, the Trojans again exchanged scores regularly with the Warriors until a good string of serves by outside hitter Pedro Leal gave USC an 11-8 lead.
Leal again shone with impressive service when he managed to set the Trojans up for a 19-15 lead after Hawaii evened the scores at 15.
Hawaii gave USC a late scare when it drew to 29-28, but the Trojans stayed composed and won with Hawaii getting called for a lift.
The Trojans gave the Hawaii fans who packed the North Gym something to cheer about in games three and four, when a disturbing break from their earlier form caused USC to lose the final two games in disappointing fashion. The Trojans offered a lackluster performance and couldn't keep their errors under control.
Floundering on offense and defense, the Trojans offered little resistance to a Hawaii team that seemed far from unbeatable.
"We served good at first, but then it went down," Leal said. "They were better at serving. Whoever serves the best wins the match, and today it was them."
Actually, Hawaii's serve percentage was .752 to USC's .867. Hawaii, however, had 10.5 team blocks to USC's 4.5, and more than doubled USC's kill percentage with a .482 rate. USC also struggled with nearly twice as many attacking and receiving errors as Hawaii.
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Post by eastcstvbfan on Mar 9, 2004 13:50:39 GMT -5
With Pat POWERS Gone WHo is Coaching them? I know Northridge is way better than them, I want to know why? No one from the east coast has ever heard of Northridge but everyone knows USC. How hard can it be to get a winning program there?
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Post by JKnight12 on Mar 9, 2004 15:48:10 GMT -5
The coach of USC is Turhan Douglas. I have heard good things about him. I know he was at Pierce, but other than that I dont know much. I am sure you could read his bio on the SC website. As for Northridge, it is in southern california, about 15 minutes away from UCLA in the valley. Northridge is better, becasue they have better players. Recruiting makes a big difference. Powers did not recruit the kids he needed to keep a winning program, and now Douglas is in the middle of the turn around between Power's players and his players. After Billings and Suxo and Donnie Killian, and I cant remember the other guys name who was a middle Beau something I think, they have never been the same. Please excuse my spelling of their names but hopefully you all know who I am talking about. Northridge is where USC will be in like 3 or 4 years, if Turhan is as good of coach as I have been hearing. Is there anything else you want to know about Northridge?
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Post by westcoastvball on Mar 9, 2004 16:10:00 GMT -5
another important factor in the debate about CSUN versus USC is the money issue. For a typical California kid, Northridge costs less that $8,000 for tuition and room and board. If you get a scholarship or some kind of financial aid, Northridge can cost you almost nothing. Compare that with USC which costs upwards of $30,000 and even if you get a half scholarship you're still staring down a $15,000 tuition charge. For a lot of kids, they'd rather pay $8,000 and walk on at CSUN than pay twice as much at USC even with a half scholarship, which most don't get. USC has also been incredibly inept at recruiting, their reputation around So. Cal now is horrible and they only landed Killian because his entire family has gone there for generations. Two of his siblings were Trojans as were his parents I believe. Not to mention some back luck with player such as Derek Otte who left and may have been someone they needed to compete. The east coast has heard of USC because of football, basketball and other various reasons, you've never heard of CSUN because they have no football and their basketball sucks. When you're in close proximity to all these schools though, and you just look at volleyball, it makes sense to go to a cheaper school with a better program.
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Post by socalfan on Mar 9, 2004 19:03:45 GMT -5
I don't want to bang Douglas because he took over a pathetic program from Powers. I heard from a reliable source if Powers would have offer Kimo Tuyay a partial scholarship, he would have taken it in a second. He didn't even make a call.
Maybe they should give Daniel Rasay a call.
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