BYU over UH; 3-1

[Charlie]

Alright, someone else got added to the Tough Guy list. I love to read about the Tough Guys. Is there a compilation of the entire list? Bookum, you should do a summary list some time for us.

Volleyball Magazine should add this feature to its pages - Bookum's Official Tough Guy List!

[Barefoot In Kailua]

I agree with roy, IB, and Bookum. Tuyay, besides being a deceptive setter, has the fire and senior leadership the Warriors need. He needs to be in the starting lineup. The future will be in good hands with Beckwith but the present may be in better hands with Tuyay.

Great effort by a Warrior team everyone ( except the Hawai'i faithful ) expected to get swept off of the court.

[Beachy]

BIK: me, too, me, too....I am not one of the UH faithful but I did predict a tough-fought match. I pointed out the at all the schools (yes, the east coast also) there are many, many great players in a back-up that will get out and perform great on any given night. Starters are always hard to replace (that is why they are starters) but the difference between the starters and non-starters is minimal. BYU has played with different middles, LB has replaced one of their middles, etc. There are some very good players sitting the bench at all schools.

[VBJunkie]

You guys have to understand that that is how brazilian players behave. It is not that they are whinning just for whinning. If a point doesnt go their way, they talk to the ref, or whipe off the floor, reach for a towel, tie their shoes, to get a momentum break. The don't want the other team to run away... so they stop the temple of the game...

That is how we were brought up... something called "catimba" - or the delaying of the game to gain advantage on your opponent..."

Its not because they are whinners or even because they think the point should have gone their way... Sometimes it is about playing w/ the other teams nerves, and my Guess is that for BYU it has been working....

[roy]

VBJunkie said:

You guys have to understand that that is how brazilian players behave. It is not that they are whinning just for whinning. If a point doesnt go their way, they talk to the ref, or whipe off the floor, reach for a towel, tie their shoes, to get a momentum break. The don't want the other team to run away... so they stop the temple of the game...

That is how we were brought up... something called "catimba" - or the delaying of the game to gain advantage on your opponent..."

Its not because they are whinners or even because they think the point should have gone their way... Sometimes it is about playing w/ the other teams nerves, and my Guess is that for BYU it has been working....

I generally don't have too much of a problem with it. It is obvious that it is all tactic. I think he has to be very careful though. You don't want to get the refs annoyed by constant complaining. And the Final Four is already held in Hawaii. BYU is already a heated rival for Hawaii. They don't need another reason for fans to be against them if they get to the Final Four.

[Barefoot In Kailua]

Beachy said:

BIK: me, too, me, too....I am not one of the UH faithful but I did predict a tough-fought match.

Ok Beachy, you too.

[lalalaluuuke]

Only in America do we root against Goliath. One thing that is common in sports is that often great teams play down to the level of their opponent. Look at the Sacramento Kings this week. They are a great team and have played down to the level of their opponents on the road and lost. Happens all the time. BYU plays well enough to win and when it comes down to it that is what matters. They went into LBSU, were outdone in almost all statistical categories, and still came away with two wins. I wouldn't mind if they dropped a game for a reality check before the playoffs, but that might not happen. Again, I give props to Hawaii for their great play last night and wish them the best tomorrow.

[Barefoot In Kailua]

RedYukon said:

Only in America do we root against Goliath

Only in Hawai'i do we root against BYU, no matter the sport, no matter the situation. ;D

[lalalaluuuke]

So everyone rooting against them on here lives in Hawaii?

[Barefoot In Kailua]

RedYukon said:

So everyone rooting against them on here lives in Hawaii?

Nope. People who root against BYU come from all over the Country. Those on the Volleytalk board may root against BYU Volleyball but here in the Islands, we root against BYU period.

[lalalaluuuke]

Funny you say that about people all over the country because on the same note, BYU has a large national contingent of fans everywhere they go. They go to Southern California and more often then not they have a crowd almost as big and occasionally bigger than their opponents.

I love the UH fans though. Even when they hate my Cougars they have passion for their team and I respect that. I appreciate any fans who will fill up the stands for men's volleyball.

[IdahoBoy]

Red Yukon, you can blame the movies "Rocky I-V" for the rooting for the underdog thing, but I think that its more than just an American thing. In Spain, for the 1992 Olympics, the hometown heroes were cheered for tremendously and they pulled off a lot of upsets in swimming and other sports that they would not have won without fans cheering for the underdog. That's just one example that I've seen, I don't have time now to list more.

As far as the whining on the court, its not just a Brazilian tactic, I've seen it all over. Its poor sportsmanship, though, no matter how you look at it. You can not like a call every now and then, but I saw them complain on EVERY point that didn't go there way!

Also, they got away with one when they kicked the ball into the stands. The ref wasn't paying attention to the play after it was over and the middle booted the ball over the score table and half way up the lower section.

Poor sportsmanship, especially for a team that "should have" dominated. Period.

[Rocky]

Yeah for the underdog! We have certainly seen the upsets this season.

I don't like the whining either. Too bad the ref did not see the kicked ball incident yesterday either. That was pretty bad.

BYU is still whining over what they say was a bad call when they played CSUN. In volleyball you get bad calls and good calls. Refs are human. That was not the only bad call in the match! One point does not win a volleyball match! Quit whining!

[lalalaluuuke]

I listened to the game last night and then just finished watching it a few minutes ago. Why doesn't anyone comment on how many times Tuyay was at the net whining about calls that they didn't get? Wilton and company were off of the bench a number of times throughout the match too. I know because they showed it on the screen. Sure BYU complained about calls but after seeing it on the replay they were usually right.

Reft did have reason to argue on that sweet pancake though, that was close. The booted ball was a questionable call. There were 4 officials on the court that should have called something, at least give some type of warning. They must have had a good reason not to. I'm not justifying the kick though.

Was everyone expecting a 30-15 every game sweep of the match or what? I thought that was a pretty dominating performance for playing on the road, first string or not. Bender could and probably should play a lot more for Azehna. If this lineup plays enough together they could do some real damage. Jehske, if given more PT, could put up some big numbers too.

They have a lot of heart and put a lot more effort into the match than their 1st string counterparts. They really ought to let Delano move back to the middle and put Bender on the outside. That would be worth a shot. Like Wilton said before the match, they are only giving up height and experience with this lineup, not talent or heart.

[socalfan]

Will somebody please give me props?

I have been posting all year long that Tuyay should start and the starters have NO HEART.

Last nights performance is proof.

By the way, So Cal hates BYU too.