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Post by triasfan on Oct 5, 2006 0:22:05 GMT -5
I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts were on this subject.
With Arnott unlikely to win a starting spot as a hitter next season, especially if Klineman or Otineru comes to Hawaii, I was thinking she could make a rather solid libero.
I thought this while watching one of my Wahine videos from 2004 and I noticed that Arnott has some very good back row skills. She's a solid passer, agile defender, and a great server. Plus she has the added advantage of being several inches taller than Hawaii's other libero candidates, while being just as quick.
Agree? Disagree? would love to hear everyone's thoughts
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Post by StuffU on Oct 5, 2006 0:29:52 GMT -5
I don't think she is redshirting in order to compete at libero next season.
They have a plethora of libero candidates that will return for 2007. Liz Kaaihue will also be in the mix. The road to a starting position is probably easier at OH than at Libero. After all, there are three OH starting opportunities per game -vs- only one libero spot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2006 0:43:10 GMT -5
I'm still a bit baffled a bit at why she is redshirting. With both Houston, and hopefully a healthy Hittle returning next year, I don't see her starting at OH either. This doesn't even take into account the fact that we could see Otineru or dare I even say it Klineman on the outside next year. It seems odd to take a redshirt year when most likely she'll be sitting on the bench next year.
I don't see her on the right either with Keefe, Thomas, and Kaufman looking like possibilities.
I may get criticized for saying this but she may be redshirting this year so that she can transfer to a school that she can start at next year...maybe Pacific and Charlie Wade. Well I certainly wish her the best no matter what happens.
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Post by aaronic on Oct 5, 2006 0:46:36 GMT -5
I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts were on this subject. With Arnott unlikely to win a starting spot as a hitter next season, especially if Klineman or Otineru comes to Hawaii, I was thinking she could make a rather solid libero. I thought this while watching one of my Wahine videos from 2004 and I noticed that Arnott has some very good back row skills. She's a solid passer, agile defender, and a great server. Plus she has the added advantage of being several inches taller than Hawaii's other libero candidates, while being just as quick. Agree? Disagree? would love to hear everyone's thoughts This is definetely something to consider, however she would need to beat out Jayme Lee at the greatest..err least- i'm not sure she will based on what i've seen in 2005; she's definetely got to be a heckuva lot better in the BR! Now for me, I strongly think realistically that Arnott won't be as good as she needs to be to win Libero, so why not keep her as either a DS or a serving specialist. Like you mentioned her serving/passing/defense is formiddable, it would be a nearly perfect fit for her. Moreover her height and hitting experience could help her become a solid BR attacker.
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Post by triasfan on Oct 5, 2006 0:52:57 GMT -5
I don't think she is redshirting in order to compete at libero next season. They have a plethora of libero candidates that will return for 2007. Liz Kaaihue will also be in the mix. The road to a starting position is probably easier at OH than at Libero. After all, there are three OH starting opportunities per game -vs- only one libero spot. You're right, she's probably not red shirting in order to be a libero next season, but she is red shirting to give herself a better shot at being a starter next season and if it can't be as a hitter, I'm sure she'd take a starting spot as a libero just so that she can be on the court. You're also right in that there are a lot of candidates in the mix for the libero position next year, but unlike at the outside hitter position, none of the libero candidates has stood out as being invaluable. Jayme Lee has done a great job this season in stabilizing the passing and has played some inspired defense, but she won the position because she didn't shank as many passes as Woolford, Duggins, or Kitaguchi, not because she was heads and shoulders above those three. On the other hand Jamie Houston and a healthy Tara Hittle are invaluable to this team. Houston, for all her inconsistencies passing and otherwise, has been, ironically, the team's most effective terminator. Even at her peak in 2004, Arnott wasn't anywhere near Houston in terms of her ability to put balls away. Then there's Hittle, who even while injured last year, got the nod over a healthy Arnott at the left-side hitting spot. As the team's best passer and defender, she'll need to be on the court all 6 rotations. As for the probability of her starting on the right-side, I'd say Keefe and Kaufman would both be ahead of Arnott on the depth chart. Keefe is a consistent hitter and great blocker on the right, while Kaufman has shown considerable potential at that position as well. Both are better blockers on that side, which as Shoji has shown in past years, is all he wants out of that position...blocking. Anyways what I'm trying to get at is that there may be more potential candidates at the libero position, but none of them have proven themselves to be invaluable, whereas Hittle and Houston have, leaving Arnott on the bench once again.
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Post by foreignball on Oct 5, 2006 0:56:53 GMT -5
....so why not keep her as either a DS or a serving specialist. Like you mentioned her serving/passing/defense is formiddable, it would be a nearly perfect fit for her. Moreover her height and hitting experience could help her become a solid BR attacker. I have yet to see an attacking DS/Serving specialist (when I say that I assume we are talking about something that is going to be done on a regular basis)....and DS is not that big in making experiments
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Post by aaronic on Oct 5, 2006 1:08:30 GMT -5
....so why not keep her as either a DS or a serving specialist. Like you mentioned her serving/passing/defense is formiddable, it would be a nearly perfect fit for her. Moreover her height and hitting experience could help her become a solid BR attacker. I have yet to see an attacking DS/Serving specialist (when I say that I assume we are talking about something that is going to be done on a regular basis)....and DS is not that big in making experiments You know what I mean.
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 5, 2006 1:23:09 GMT -5
Arnott-to-Pacific was my original theory. My invention several weeks ago when Hawaii announced her redshirt plans. Please refrain from mentioning this theory without my permission.
Thanks, in advance.
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Post by Miss Hittball on Oct 5, 2006 2:55:10 GMT -5
I had hoped they would've tried Arnott at libero last year when they were experimenting with Hittle there. And was kind of cheering for it at the beginning of this year before I realized she was redshirtting *ahem*
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Post by 5100 on Oct 5, 2006 3:07:31 GMT -5
Arnott is definitely quicker than Boogaard in the backrow, but I don't think she is quicker than the liberos on the roster. But that could be a possibility, as Arnott has better ballhandling skills than Woolford, who is seeing a lot of time this year. I'm not sure what the future holds for Alicia. Maybe she'll transfer or just retire. Sometimes I still find it hard to believe that the kill leader two years ago had to take a redshirt year because there was no spot for her in the lineup.
Also, Alicia can't be the libero or primary DS next year because Shoji has reserved those spots for Ong and Blood.
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Post by roy on Oct 5, 2006 3:17:05 GMT -5
I do feel for Arnott but that's sports. Like others have said, libero is unlikely. She is a good passer and defender, with a great jump serve, but overall, her game hasn't improved much. I doubt she is going to beat out Duggings, Woolford, and Lee at the back row. And she isn't going to beat out Houston or Hittle at the outside. Overall, it will be hard for her to break the line up. But maybe this is motivation to improve. If she works hard up to next season, she might surprise everyone.
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Post by triasfan on Oct 5, 2006 5:42:37 GMT -5
I do feel for Arnott but that's sports. Like others have said, libero is unlikely. She is a good passer and defender, with a great jump serve, but overall, her game hasn't improved much. I doubt she is going to beat out Duggings, Woolford, and Lee at the back row. And she isn't going to beat out Houston or Hittle at the outside. Overall, it will be hard for her to break the line up. But maybe this is motivation to improve. If she works hard up to next season, she might surprise everyone. Lee will be hard to pass on the depth chart, but Woolford and Duggins haven't been impressive at all. They've shown moments of brilliance, but we need someone at that position who is brilliant for more than just a few moments at a time. Arnott has always been a consistent back row player and if she is working on her game like she supposedly is, then I'd say she has as good a shot as anyone at winning that libero spot next year.
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Post by 5100 on Oct 5, 2006 7:36:17 GMT -5
triasfan, Arnott will pass Lee, but will still be third on the depth chart at libero next year behind Ong and Blood. On a more serious note, Woolford has to work seriously on reception and ball control if she wants to help the team because I think Ong and Blood should be getting more playing time.
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