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Post by VBfanatic on Mar 28, 2004 18:22:04 GMT -5
What is going on with both investigations?
Anyone has any info on that...
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Post by IdahoBoy on Mar 28, 2004 19:12:28 GMT -5
I think that the NCAA is a little pieved that schools are challenging their supreme authority and are dragging it out to make everyone lose interest.
But, that's just me. I think the NCAA rule makers have a sharp similarity to Nazi's. I suppose if one was dyslexic they could even make NCAA sound that way...
Or, you could change it to NAAC National Athletic Association for Colleges... pronounced 'naw-see'
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Post by mvbdad on Mar 30, 2004 1:00:35 GMT -5
Leave it to a Hawaii person to say something negative about the NCAA. There are rules for a reason !! If the rules are broken ,there should be penalties involved. The teams that played by the rules are the ones that lose out when teams cheat. All the players on Pepperdine's team 2 years ago and Pepperdine's and BYU's team of last year were not cheaters and they lost out to teams that broke the rules , so if they did cheat after all ,then they should lose the championship .If in the end it is shown that rules were not broken ,then both teams should regain their crowns and all is forgotten
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Post by beachman on Mar 30, 2004 1:08:12 GMT -5
Leave it to a Hawaii person to say something negative about the NCAA. There are rules for a reason !! If the rules are broken ,there should be penalties involved. The teams that played by the rules are the ones that lose out when teams cheat. All the players on Pepperdine's team 2 years ago and Pepperdine's and BYU's team of last year were not cheaters and they lost out to teams that broke the rules , so if they did cheat after all ,then they should lose the championship .If in the end it is shown that rules were not broken ,then both teams should regain their crowns and all is forgotten DITTO!
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Post by Smooth "954" Mike on Mar 30, 2004 10:32:42 GMT -5
The NCAA is dragging these investigations out yes, but they have to. They are investigating foreign players with possible professional backgrounds. They have to make sure all information found or given to them is completely accurate. There is a great deal at stake here for both programs and men’s college volleyball itself. The NCAA may have already ruled on both situations but they are waiting to make them public until after the season. Guarantee hearing news after the 2004 season is concluded.
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Post by Gorf on Mar 30, 2004 11:23:59 GMT -5
Are the rules different for NCAA men's teams different than for NCAA women's teams in terms of using "professional" players?
I thought the article(s) I read regarding Costas Theochardis (sp?) said he played for a team in a professional league but was never paid to play for that team?
How is that different than some of the international players for women's teams?
I don't recall anything regarding NCAA women's teams being sanctioned because of their international players.
Is it that much less likely that much less likely that the internation women player have participated on professional teams before being recruited?
Are they just not as dominant as the international men players and are therefore less scrutinized than the men?
Are the rules different for the women's teams?
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Post by nobody on Mar 31, 2004 8:44:02 GMT -5
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Post by Smooth "954" Mike on Mar 31, 2004 9:41:31 GMT -5
Hey nobody- Are you saying we have to review this issue??
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Post by VBbeast on Mar 31, 2004 14:34:53 GMT -5
Are the rules different for NCAA men's teams different than for NCAA women's teams in terms of using "professional" players? ======================================= Nope the rules in this instance for men and women are the same. There have been cases of women's teams being sanctioned for playing athletes that were later found to have not been amatuers in the past. The difference was they were not national championship winning teams so you don't get that much press on them.
Having said that I have no doubt there were and are instances of women volleyball players doing the same things the guys from Lewis and UH were turned in for.
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Post by volleyer on Apr 1, 2004 22:11:36 GMT -5
How is it that Michelle Wie can play with professional golfers, in a professional golf tournament, and still keep her amateur status and play NCAA golf at Stanford (when she's old enough to enroll, that is)? How is that different from Costas?
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Post by midwestfan on Apr 1, 2004 22:29:53 GMT -5
Good Question!
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Post by nobody on Apr 2, 2004 8:15:12 GMT -5
Hey nobody- Are you saying we have to review this issue?? relaxa ...
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Post by IdahoBoy on Apr 2, 2004 14:20:48 GMT -5
How is it that Michelle Wie can play with professional golfers, in a professional golf tournament, and still keep her amateur status and play NCAA golf at Stanford (when she's old enough to enroll, that is)? How is that different from Costas? Michelle Wie declines the prize money. I understand that her family is going broke right now keeping her in the limelight because of this. But, they have people lined up for when she does decide to accept the endorsements.
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Post by volleyer on Apr 2, 2004 20:56:23 GMT -5
Michelle Wie does not get paid, Costas does not get paid, what's the difference? Both played with professionals. How is it that the NCAA can ban one and embrace the other?
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