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Post by Bookumdanoaloha on Mar 31, 2004 1:10:45 GMT -5
Long Beach State was my pre-season pick to win it all. It is a veteran clubs with several seniors closing out their careers. Scotty, Ron, and David in particular. I still got my money on them, however, BYU is pretty impressive. I still would take Tyler over Carlos any day. I'll get into that at a later time.
This should be an interesting two games in Honolulu. This will be a Big Test for the "current" Hawaii line up to see how they match up with the No. 2 team in the league. If they can manage a split at home vs. the 49ers, it will be a good step towards playoffs.
It's been a good rivalry the past couple of years. I expect "friendly - trash talking" since several players are good friends across the nets. Watch for Kimo and David Lee go at it, with smiles. They are good buddies from San Diego when they played Jr. Club together.
I like Kimo back at setter and Delano is alot more "fired up" to play. They are the only starters from last season in the current line up, and their leadership and experience will be a key as we get to the playoffs.
As far as the "rumor" about a Long Beach State player "ratting" on Costas, it is true and the Hawaii team knows who it was. That player hasn't been on the squad for at least three years, so I don't think there should be any animosity towards the current players. Unless a Beach Coach had something to do with it - and I wouldn't put it past A. R. to do something like that. Alan Knipe is a class guy as far as I'm concerned. That's all I have to say on the matter, and I think I've said enough.
The key is to secure a #2, #3, or a #7, #8 seed in the playoffs. You don't want to play BYU at the Smith Field House. Few teams have success there. Three years ago Hawaii beat BYU at home in the playoffs, but lost to UCLA in the final. BYU and UCLA got the two berths to the FF. If BYU wins the first round playoff game, they will receive the At Large Berth, thus, the other teams in the league has to make it to/or win the league Championship to make the FF.
Hey Beachmom, will you be in the Islands this weekend or are you saving your tickets for your trip in May? As for VBCrusin get those tax returns done, or go on extensions and get back to volleyball.
Bookumdanoaloha
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Post by Rocky on Mar 31, 2004 2:14:19 GMT -5
Bookum - are you sure about wanting to be a #8 seed? Doesn't the #8 play #1 first round? (I am making an assumption that BYU will be seeded #1 based on their current place in the standings. It is still possible that someone else may end up #1, but based on the standing today they would be #1.) Seems like you would want to be #2, #3, #6, or #7.
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Post by Bookumdanoaloha on Mar 31, 2004 2:49:34 GMT -5
Rocky
That was a typo, I meant #7 seed. Mahalo/Garcias.
Bookumdano
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Post by warriordudette88 on Mar 31, 2004 3:02:57 GMT -5
what is the best possible seed hawaii could get if they were to win all the rest of their mpsf matches? i'm really looking forward to this week's matches...hope maulia plays well despite the foot injury.
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Post by roy on Mar 31, 2004 3:51:10 GMT -5
Nice analysis Bookum. I am rooting for the Beach this year. I don't want UCLA to win, and while BYU is a solid team, I just can't bring myself to root for them (unless it is against UCLA). I wouldn't mind seeing the Beach or Pepperdine take the title.
The seedings are pretty close this year. BYU has locked up the top seed. Even 2 loses to UCLA would keep them as #1, unless they lose to USC or UCSD. I think Hawaii will end up as the somewhere in the middle of the pack. #2 is out of reach and I think the highest seed they can get is #3, assuming they win everything and they will need some help from some other teams as well. Likely, probably somewhere between 4-7.
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Post by Bookumdanoaloha on Mar 31, 2004 9:52:36 GMT -5
With all that has happened this season, it would be fitting is see BYU lose in the first round. It happened to Long Beach State and USC when they were the top seeded teams couple of years ago.
If I could to pick an upset over BYU in the first round, I'd put my money on Cal State Northridge. They have the team that could give the Cougars fits (excellent jump servers, diggers and passers). They are well coached and are discipline enough to make adjustments. Also they are a what I call a "small gym" team. Certain teams play well in small gyms: eg. Pepperdine. Hawaii with a smaller, better passing/digging and inspired team gave BYU a run for their money last week. The Matadors are that type of team. That is how highly I think of the Matadors, however, I don't think they'll drop that low in the seedings.
Smith Field House is such a tough place to play. Those Cougars fans give their team a 3 point advantage every game.
Bookumdanoaloha
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Post by vballmom on Mar 31, 2004 12:56:17 GMT -5
Hi there. I am saving my tickets for May.  I'm trying not to jinx anything, so I'm using Frequent Flyer miles rather than purchasing a non-refundable ticket. Also, I haven't purchased my ticket to the matches yet. If things don't change from where they are right now in the MPSF it should shake out as follows: (1) BYU vs (8) USC (4) Hawaii vs. (5) CSUN (2) LBSU vs. (7) UCSB (3) UCLA vs. (6) Pepperdine The crazy thing is that it looks like, if LBSU gets past UCSB, they will play their semi's agains UCLA or Pepperdine on April 30th (according to the Long Beach website) and if they win that, they will have to play at BYU (assuming they win out) the next day. That doesn't make any sense to me. They should plan for at least one travel day in case they have to travel far away. I suspect that is one of the reasons they wanted to have the MPSF tournament played in one location over one weekend. At least the semi's and finals should be. My 2 cents. |
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Post by Rocky on Mar 31, 2004 13:22:36 GMT -5
I thought the MPSF semifinal matches and final were all played at the highest remaining seed? This would mean that if BYU is seeded first and wins their first match all remaining teams would go to Provo for the remaining matches.
Also, IMHO, there will still be some movement of the teams. Lots of important matches left to play. I would hesitate to speculate any further than BYU probably ending the season in first. After this weekend we might be closer to being able to predict some of the pairings. Nothing is clear-cut in the MPSF this year!
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Post by vballmom on Mar 31, 2004 18:02:27 GMT -5
Rocky - you are right about it being too early to seed everyone but BYU. That was just the standings as of last week. If they go to the highest remaining seed for the semi's and finals, then that makes more sense. I hope that is what they do and it is LBSU . Not likely, but you never know. Odds are, it will be in Provo.  |
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Post by roy on Mar 31, 2004 18:13:44 GMT -5
BYU has all but locked up the top seed. Long Beach has only 3 loses and BYU holds the tie breaker against the 49ers. UCLA has more than 3 loses. Even if BYU loses both matches to UCLA, they have the advantage against the other top seeds. After that, they only have USC and UCSD to play, all of which should be easy (or easier) wins.
But I agree with Rocky in that there are still too many matches left to play. All top teams still have someone in the top 5 to play. Hawaii has Long Beach, Pepperdine and UCI. UCLA has BYU and a match with Pepperdine. Long Beach also has Northridge left on their schedule. Still a lot of volleyball to play before we can get a clear idea of the seeds.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 31, 2004 18:26:42 GMT -5
FYI - from last year's handbook and other MPSF press releases (so we can all keep speculating while being fully informed):
Sites and Dates
First-round matches at home sites of top-four seeded teams.
Championship semifinals and finals matches will take place at the home site of the highest remaining seeded team.
MPSF Tie Breaking Procedure
Ties affecting the selection or seeding for the MPSF Championship Tournament shall be broken by applying the following procedures in the order presented.
The tie shall be considered broken as soon as one procedure produces a difference between or among the tied teams.
If a multiple tie has been broken, and two or more teams remain tied, the tiebreaker will then revert back to #A. Head-to-head comparison, then proceed in order down the tiebreaker list until the remaining tie is broken.
If two or more teams remain tied, the process shall begin again with head-to-head and on down the list until all ties are broken. (change effective April, 2000 - new tiebreakers established May, 2001).
A. Head-to-head record in MPSF match play between tied teams.
B. Highest percentage of MPSF games won between tied teams.
C. Points scored divided by points allowed in MPSF matches between tied teams.
D. Percentage of games won in all MPSF matches.
E. Total points scored in all MPSF matches divided by total points allowed in all MPSF matches.
F. Coin toss.
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Apr 1, 2004 18:27:53 GMT -5
I still would take Tyler over Carlos any day. I'll get into that at a later time. I like Kimo back at setter and Delano is alot more "fired up" to play. They are the only starters from last season in the current line up, and their leadership and experience will be a key as we get to the playoffs. Three years ago Hawaii beat BYU at home in the playoffs, but lost to UCLA in the final. BYU and UCLA got the two berths to the FF. If BYU wins the first round playoff game, they will receive the At Large Berth, thus, the other teams in the league has to make it to/or win the league Championship to make the FF. Taking Hildebrand over Moreno? No thanks. Moreno knows how to run an offense much better. He doesn't just push it out to Touzinsky when in trouble. He will still make you guess even if the pass isn't on the money. One-on-One hitting all night. Tyler might be there by his Sr. year. I agree with Kimo starting. He has shown his command in the starting role the past 2 weekends. Still not sure if Delano is really excited to play. It almost looks forced watching it over the net. That's just what I can see from my perspective. He could be sincere, it is hard to tell. They certainly played better with him at OH and LaBarre back in the middle. If you recall when UH beat BYU 3 years ago Mike Wall went down w/ a bad sprain. He was the team's go-to guy. That would be like Costas going down for UH at that time. Mike came back to get MVP honors for the Final Four. BYU had shown that whole season that they deserved to be in the Final Four. I think it was appropriate that the next year UH got the at-large even though BYU swept them at the SSC their last night in Hawaii. |
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Post by H2O on Apr 2, 2004 0:30:30 GMT -5
Been away from the board for awhile, but I'm hoping after having our clocks cleaned for the last 2 years by Hawaii that The Beach wins both at Hawaii, then the next 3 at home and then I'll worry about the MPSF playoffs.
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Post by beachman on Apr 2, 2004 1:53:50 GMT -5
Hildebrand is an 18 year old sophomore and Moreno is what, a 23 year old, senior.......give Tyler some time, he'll be much better than Moreno, and already is the best American setter playing collegiate volleyball.....surely is the FUTURE for the USA!
Go Beach!
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Post by OC24 on Apr 2, 2004 5:27:05 GMT -5
Hildebrand is an 18 year old sophomore and Moreno is what, a 23 year old, senior.......give Tyler some time, he'll be much better than Moreno, and already is the best American setter playing collegiate volleyball.....surely is the FUTURE for the USA! Go Beach! That's pretty bold... I don't think Hildebrand can be categorized as the future of the US, he has a lot more to prove before he's worthy of a statement like that. I'd also be willing to bet that when Winder gets into Marv's hands next year he will already be a step ahead of Hildebrand... |
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I'm trying not to jinx anything, so I'm using Frequent Flyer miles rather than purchasing a non-refundable ticket. Also, I haven't purchased my ticket to the matches yet.
