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Post by midwestfan on Mar 31, 2004 14:47:19 GMT -5
Am I understanding this correctly?
For D1, 2 & 3 you have 4 years of eligibility in 5 years, right? Except for BYU, whose athletes are allowed 4 years of eligibility in 7 years (2 yrs. mission and 1 red shirt). Does this exception apply to any other non LDS schools? Does the 4 out of 5 rule apply to NAIA schools as well or are they different?
Aren't club rules different? Don't they have 6 years of eligibility? I was talking to a mom whose son graduated from a D1 school and is now playing club volleyball for another school and she is the one who told me that.
I know I don't need to ask, but please correct any false assumptions that I've come to!!! ;D
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Post by vb on Mar 31, 2004 15:16:35 GMT -5
...shaking the ol' BYU tree...huh?
Get ready for the wrath from BYU guys...in addition to knowing how to play VB, they know how to write!
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Post by midwestfan on Mar 31, 2004 15:37:33 GMT -5
Well, I hope they know how to write, they go to school long enough! bah da bum !! *joke* *laugh* Honestly, just kidding all you BYU people!! This question was not intended to rattle you. I just want to make sure that it's the way I'm thinking. I had never heard about someone using their 4 yrs and then going on to play club until recently and it made me rethink the whole eligibility thing. This isn't intended to jump all over BYU. Love it/hate it, that's they way the rules are and we can't change it (until I become head of NCAA volleyball that is ). Period!! I will have a question on the age thing as well, but that's for another post/thread.
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Post by BearClause on Mar 31, 2004 16:07:24 GMT -5
This isn't intended to jump all over BYU. Love it/hate it, that's they way the rules are and we can't change it (until I become head of NCAA volleyball that is ). Period!! Doesn't apply only to BYU or other Mormon schools. I believe the rule applies for anyone on a "religious mission". I've heard of several student-athletes (mostly Mormon) who have served and come back at any number of different schools. I'm sure a good number of these kids are at the University of Utah.
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Post by banthony2 on Mar 31, 2004 17:27:35 GMT -5
Cameron Mount did the same thing at UCLA. Problem was he played in a match or two before he went on a mission. That threw away his redshirt year, so he only had three years after his mission.
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Post by midwestfan on Mar 31, 2004 21:14:23 GMT -5
I guess I never followed the logic through that it could be anyone who goes on a religious mission from any school.
And if I remember correctly their is also an exclusion for military service.
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Post by VBbeast on Apr 1, 2004 10:56:40 GMT -5
Religious missions, and military service are exempted provisions for D1 eligibility at any school. The general rule for D1 is a player has 5 years to complete 4 years of eligibility from the time he enrolls full time in college.
D2 has a 10 semester rule that is way more lenient in that all athletes have 10 semesters of eligibility total. They do not have to be consecutive or within a certain time frame. Thats how you see a lot of older players at places like Lewis.
There is also a provision in division 1 about participation in organized competition after a certain age i think its 20 0r 21 also counting against your 5 year clock.
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Post by planetasia01 on Apr 1, 2004 15:31:33 GMT -5
heres the basic eligibility clause for NIRSA club) nationals:
Participants are limited to six (6) years of consecutive participation in the NIRSA Sport Club Championships. Year one begins the first year a player's name appears on a NIRSA roster OR the first year their name was listed on the roster of any 2-year or 4-year college varsity team. Any player who played in a NIRSA Championship or was listed on a collegiate volleyball varsity roster prior to 1999 will be ineligible to participate. All current varsity athletes (2003-04) are ineligible to participate in ANY division of the NIRSA Volleyball sport club championships. Limits: ALL Divisions are limited to no more than 2 former varsity athletes on their roster. Varsity Athlete Definition: A student who by definition of any 2-year or 4-year college or university's athletic department has been listed on the school's active varsity roster for the college/university team in at least one scheduled athletic contest. The exception to this rule will be for students whose only year of activity was as a redshirt. They will not count as a former varsity athlete.
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Post by midwestfan on Apr 1, 2004 17:04:09 GMT -5
Here is the age rule for D1 schools:
21 Year Age Rule for Division I In Division I only, if a student-athlete has participated as an individual or as a team representative in organized sports competition, that kind of participation during each 12-month period after his/her 21st birthday and prior to initial full-time collegiate enrollment will count as one year of varsity competition in that sport. Any participation in organized competition during time spent in the U.S. armed services will be excepted.
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Post by vballguy2001 on Apr 1, 2004 19:14:53 GMT -5
Doesn't apply only to BYU or other Mormon schools. I believe the rule applies for anyone on a "religious mission". I've heard of several student-athletes (mostly Mormon) who have served and come back at any number of different schools. I'm sure a good number of these kids are at the University of Utah. A player can take two years off of school and not loose eligibility if it is a religious mission, or serving in the military. But the player has to be away from any school for at least 24 months. If they start going to school within that time they will lose eligibility years. Doesn't matter what school you go to or even what religion you are.
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