Big 10 in NCAA R1&2

[lions]

How do you think the B10 will do in rounds 1&2? Does everyone move on to the round of 16? If not who moves on & who goes home?

[bucky415]

I think that Penn State and Minnesota will advance with two sweeps. Wisconsin should be able to make it out of Madison. I am not sure about Purdue, given their recent struggles at home. Ohio is a good team. I don't know about Kentucky. I think the Boilers have a shot at home, but they really need to pick up their game. Ohio State will be giving up size at the net against Louisville, should those two meet, but I think the Buckeyes will advance, given their recent success. Michigan and Michigan State will go home for the season. They didn't get any favors with their draws.

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lions said:

How do you think the B10 will do in rounds 1&2? Does everyone move on to the round of 16? If not who moves on & who goes home?

Well, for starters, I will go out on a limb and speculate that PSU and Minn will move on, if they do not fall asleep in one of their matches (I mean literally).

My opinion is that in addition to them, Purdue, Ohio State and Wisconsin move on, putting 5 Big 10 teams in the sweet 16, compared to 4 from the Pac 10, and 3 from the Big 12. Seedings. But I wouldn't bet against 3 of the Final Four being from the Pac 10 and, maybe one from the Big 10 squeezing out the Big 12.

[ohiostatetad]

bucky415 said:

Ohio State will be giving up size at the net against Louisville, should those two meet, but I think the Buckeyes will advance, given their recent success.

Bucky, check out Louisville's results. Have you seen who's beaten them? I'm not saying height won't help (nor am I overconfident), but size versus weapons... I'll be screaming for the Buckeyes.

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bucky415 said:

I think that Penn State and Minnesota will advance with two sweeps. Wisconsin should be able to make it out of Madison. I am not sure about Purdue, given their recent struggles at home. Ohio is a good team. I don't know about Kentucky. I think the Boilers have a shot at home, but they really need to pick up their game. Ohio State will be giving up size at the net against Louisville, should those two meet, but I think the Buckeyes will advance, given their recent success. Michigan and Michigan State will go home for the season. They didn't get any favors with their draws.

I don't think Ohio matches up well against Purdue (assuming the Bobcats get past Kentucky). If Purdue can pass, their middles should dominate. (By the way, St. Louis is no creampuff either.)

I agree about Michigan State and Michigan, but I do think Michigan could surprise Cal Poly -- and then who knows?

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publius said:

But I wouldn't bet against 3 of the Final Four being from the Pac 10 and, maybe one from the Big 10 squeezing out the Big 12.

Seeding USC #5 and UW #6 certainly helps make this possible.

(Sham brackets!)

[The Bofa on the Sofa]

From Pablo, the probability that either Mich or Mich St makes the final 16 is only about 11%, so not something I would consider likely. Possible, yes, likely, no.

The other Big 10 teams are all favored to make it, with Purdue being the least likely (Pablo says 67% or so). The probability that one of Purdue/Mich/Mich St make it is about 71%. Still, though, that is a good chance that none of those three advance.

Let's just say that I hope at least one of them does....

(and I'm rooting for all three)

[leadbrain]

Ok, thought long and hard about this and my clairvoyance leads me to these Big 10 1st Round predictions:

MN over Siena
Utah over Mich St.
Cal Poly over Mich
Wisconsin over ND
Ohio St over Belmont
PSU over Long Island
Purdue over St. Louis (think this has the makings of a great match though. could easily go 5 or possible St. Louis upset. going with Purdue since they're at home. at a neutral i might have picked differently)

2nd Round:
PSU over Cornell
MN over St. John's
Wisconsin over Iowa St.
Ohio St over Louisville
Purdue over Ohio (same reasons as the SLU match)

You might want to argue with these picks, but you can't argue with fate. It's science

[SaltNPepper]

ruffda said:

publius said:

But I wouldn't bet against 3 of the Final Four being from the Pac 10 and, maybe one from the Big 10 squeezing out the Big 12.

Seeding USC #5 and UW #6 certainly helps make this possible.

(Sham brackets!)

I must be dense, but I don't understand.

Prior to the committee's seeding, there was both on this board and in the AVCA poll general agreement that 4 of the Pac-10 teams were among the top 6 teams in the country and that Nebraska was in the top 2. If that's the case, show me a bracket that gives all four of those Pac-10 teams a chance to make it to the Final 4. It just doesn't work unless you drop Nebraska out of the top 2 or move one of the Pac-10 teams down to 7 or 8 to match up against them. PSU can be anywhere from 3 to 6 - it doesn't matter.

Or am I missing something?

Modified: OK, I am dense. I thought this post was about having these 4 Pac-10 team making up a all Pac-10 Final 4. Sorry.

[Ye Olde Dawg]

saltnpepper said:

ruffda said:

Seeding USC #5 and UW #6 certainly helps make this possible.

(Sham brackets!)

I must be dense, but I don't understand.

Prior to the committee's seeding, there was both on this board and in the AVCA poll general agreement that 4 of the Pac-10 teams were among the top 6 teams in the country and that Nebraska was in the top 2. If that's the case, show me a bracket that gives all four of those Pac-10 teams a chance to make it to the Final 4. It just doesn't work unless you drop Nebraska out of the top 2 or move one of the Pac-10 teams down to 7 or 8 to match up against them. PSU can be anywhere from 3 to 6 - it doesn't matter.

Or am I missing something?

Modified: OK, I am dense. I thought this post was about having these 4 Pac-10 team making up a all Pac-10 Final 4. Sorry.

Also, Ruffda's being a pessimist about at least one of those matches. P-dub, what are Pablo's odds of Penn State winning the Seattle regional if they happen to end up playing Washington? I believe UW would be favored on their home court, but I don't think it's by much.

[The Bofa on the Sofa]

sankyu said:

saltnpepper said:

I must be dense, but I don't understand.

Prior to the committee's seeding, there was both on this board and in the AVCA poll general agreement that 4 of the Pac-10 teams were among the top 6 teams in the country and that Nebraska was in the top 2. If that's the case, show me a bracket that gives all four of those Pac-10 teams a chance to make it to the Final 4. It just doesn't work unless you drop Nebraska out of the top 2 or move one of the Pac-10 teams down to 7 or 8 to match up against them. PSU can be anywhere from 3 to 6 - it doesn't matter.

Or am I missing something?

Modified: OK, I am dense. I thought this post was about having these 4 Pac-10 team making up a all Pac-10 Final 4. Sorry.

Also, Ruffda's being a pessimist about at least one of those matches. P-dub, what are Pablo's odds of Penn State winning the Seattle regional if they happen to end up playing Washington? I believe UW would be favored on their home court, but I don't think it's by much.

Full probabilities for the first four rounds are available on richkern.com