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Post by BigBanger on Apr 13, 2004 20:11:48 GMT -5
I guess no one from the BYU or Lewis Team will make this AA list! They all start off as 25 year old Freshmans! ;D
Easy People! It was just a joke! But a good one! Laughing my ass off! ;D
AA 1st Team from MPSF Only Besides Penn State Players, no one else IMO deservs this honor! There is some Canadian who plays for IPFW, but I think he's 28 years old too!
BYU- at least 3 AA- but only one of them are within the age range ;D LBSU- for sure 3 AA UCLA- at least 2 AA HAW- at least 2 AA PEPP- at least 3 AA UCI- at least 2 AA
This is my prediction for 1st team All Americans
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Post by midwestfan on Apr 13, 2004 20:53:16 GMT -5
AA 1st Team from MPSF OnlyBesides Penn State Players, no one else IMO deservs this honor! There is some Canadian who plays for IPFW, but I think he's 28 years old too! AA 1st Team outside MPSF PS - 1 IPFW - 1 (Matt is not 28!) BS - 1 So there!!
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Post by vb on Apr 13, 2004 21:57:54 GMT -5
after my laughing reduced to a light chuckle, I realized how logical this AA list is. Great concept! College age AA!
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Post by benwhipdrofn on Apr 13, 2004 23:15:29 GMT -5
Fabiano is only 25 years old right now, so he could not have been 24 when he received the FOY. I would like to see Jeff Soler on one of those All american lists. He has provided a very stable backbone for Lewis the past few years. I won't say he is the most outstanding hitter, but he holds his own fairly well. He lost the annoying "x" after a kill and has proven to be a overall fairly consistent player on the court.
Here are some stats: Keith Schunsel 1.36 Kill per game .447% with 135digs 1.65% Mike Alesch 4.49killpg; .243% 135digs 1.44% Shawn Schroeder 3.42killpg; .401% Matt Z. 5.74 Killpg; .333% 146digs 1.97% Fabby 4.29killpg .235% 127 digs 1.3% Soler 3.47killpg .244% 127digs 1.3%
So kills pergame it's Matt, Mike, Fabby, Soler, Shawn, Keith ATtack % it's: Keith, Shawn, Matt, Soler, Fabby
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Post by midwestrules on Apr 14, 2004 0:09:44 GMT -5
Here are some stats: Keith Schunsel 1.36 Kill per game .447% with 135digs 1.65% Mike Alesch 4.49killpg; .243% 135digs 1.44% Shawn Schroeder 3.42killpg; .401% Matt Z. 5.74 Killpg; .333% 146digs 1.97% Fabby 4.29killpg .235% 127 digs 1.3% Soler 3.47killpg .244% 127digs 1.3% So kills pergame it's Matt, Mike, Fabby, Soler, Shawn, Keith ATtack % it's: Keith, Shawn, Matt, Soler, Fabby just to let you know you left out mike alesch from you attach percent list, it should be keith, shawn, matt, mike soler, fabby....just a little correction. what about the other stats, like aces, and blocks?...are those considered as well? also what about total kills?
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Post by vb on Apr 14, 2004 1:10:06 GMT -5
How about the overlooked PSU kid Meerstein?
he would be leading the nation-Attack% .514 (but Kowal is not human at .591) he is top10 with blocking total 113 - b/game 1.33
age is ok...and he is american (not sure if he likes apple pie)
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Post by benwhipdrofn on Apr 14, 2004 13:20:47 GMT -5
yes but can he pass?
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Post by BigBanger on Apr 14, 2004 19:43:52 GMT -5
I might get alot of crap for this one..................Oh Well! I don't give a fudge!
The MPSF players should comprise at least 85% of all the AVCA All Americans this year. In my opinion only 2 or 3 guys from the other Conferences deserve to join this elite group. Plain and simple...........the other 3 Conferences are WEAK. That's the only reason why some of these players have huge hitting %, and Blocking stats. They all play weak teams.
Only Penn State has managed to beat any West Coast Teams. But with their weak schedule and weak Conference they get to CAKE WALK into the Final Four just like sorry IPFW. The should easily win their Conference Tournament and get the spot in the Final Four.
Take a look at what the non MPSF schools did against MPSF teams this year:
#7 Penn St: Wins- HAW 3-2, USC 3-0, UCI 3-2
#11 Ohio St: Lost- BYU 0-3 & 1-3
#12 Ball St: Lost- HAW 0-3 & 1-3, UCI 1-3
#13 IPFW: Lost- CSUN 1-3, UCI 0-3, LBSU 1-3
#14 Lewis: Wins- UCSD 3-1, USC 3-2 Lost- HAW 2-3, PEPP 0-3, UCLA 0-3, USC 1-3, BYU 1-3
#15 Loyola Chicago: Lost- PEPP 0-3
I wish the NCAA Committee could Field an actual NCAA Mens Tournament of 32 Teams and Rank them accordingly. But I know that they don't have the $$$$ to so this.
The Final Four shoud be 1. BYU 2. LBSU 3. UCLA 4. PEPP
These are the Best teams in the nation, not Penn St and IPFW!
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Post by ShankLeft on Apr 14, 2004 20:17:41 GMT -5
I agree that the Midwest and East teams should have more hurdles to get to the final four. I would love to see even an 8 team tournament. I think that kind of event would draw a larger audience.
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Post by VBbeast on Apr 15, 2004 11:40:46 GMT -5
"I agree that the Midwest and East teams should have more hurdles to get to the final four." =====================================
<takes a deep breath>
Ok how to put this diplomatically. ....
There are 4 slots for the NCAAs. Outside of one freak occurence in 1994 the MPFS schools have gotten 2 of those, the midwest has gotten one, and the east has gotten one. If you would like to host a west coast championship then knock yourself out, but please don't come in here and suggest that more hurdles are needed or that only teams from the MPSF should make it to the final 4 this year. Regionalism is a trait the sport can ill afford to adopt given the small number of programs still surviving out there. If you take away regional representation you take away incentive for regional participation. From there it is a very short step for ADs trying to maximize budgets to cut a program that there is little or no upside to keeping. Opportunity for representation at a national championship venue is a very big deal. You may not like it. but every region needs the other in our sport.
As far as Penn St. being the only team outside the MPFS worthy of consideration then perhaps you can explain why Penn St. has managed to spilt with almost every one of the top 5 schools in the midwest. I'm not saying they dont have a good team, I'm justknocking holes in what can only be an uninformed assessment.
Penn St. has 2 solid AA candidates in Kowal and Matei. there secodn middle should even be considered for HM.
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Apr 15, 2004 12:39:24 GMT -5
I wish the NCAA Committee could Field an actual NCAA Mens Tournament of 32 Teams and Rank them accordingly. But I know that they don't have the $$$$ to so this. Your points are somewhat valid but vain. Like was mentioned, it is a National Championship, not a West Coast Championship. MPSF teams just have to look at their conference tourney as an extension of the Final Four. That is the theory behind conference tourneys--it rewards the team that wins. There are not enough teams to have a 32 team tourney.
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Post by vballmom on Apr 15, 2004 12:47:36 GMT -5
As has been suggested many times, an 8 team format would work.
2 from the East, 2 from the Midwest, and 4 from the MPSF. That would be fair.
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Post by VBbeast on Apr 15, 2004 14:07:37 GMT -5
"2 from the East, 2 from the Midwest, and 4 from the MPSF. That would be fair." ======================================
Not trying to start a fight or anything but to arbitrarily say assign those numbers of teams from those regions would hardly be fair given the percentages of teams playing in the respective regions. On top of which in a given year the strengths of each region will change.
The MPFS this year has 5 or 6 teams that have for the most part distinguished themselves from the rest of the league. The MIVA has 5 teams that have done the same in their region. The EIVA really has 2 maybe 3 that have kind of separated themselves. Until each region plays each other much more frequently home and away than they do the only fair way to determine participation in a championship tournament its regional representation.
A 6 team format I believe was actually proposed to the championship cabinet a few years ago, but was rejected.
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Post by warriordudette88 on Apr 15, 2004 20:27:12 GMT -5
instead of designating the exact numbers of teams from each conference, do the standard one from each conference and have 5 at-large (from whichever conference the teams come from according to how well they did).
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Post by Billings on Apr 16, 2004 7:58:14 GMT -5
quick question...can i be on this all-american list? i am only 23. what i would give to be playing in college again. actually, i take that back. i like getting paid.
BB
i was terrible in college though. these guys have some real talent.
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