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Post by baywatcher on May 29, 2007 12:23:29 GMT -5
In light of seeing over and over again that schools are having trouble putting teams together for spring matches due to injuries, is the Spring program as constituted worth the trouble? A lighter version OK, or do coaches and players really need the work? Better off just letting everybody rest up, and practice as the body sees fit?
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Post by dishdaball on May 29, 2007 13:38:17 GMT -5
In light of seeing over and over again that schools are having trouble putting teams together for spring matches due to injuries, is the Spring program as constituted worth the trouble? A lighter version OK, or do coaches and players really need the work? Better off just letting everybody rest up, and practice as the body sees fit? No it's not worth it.........just let the players train and go to school. |
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Post by roy on May 29, 2007 14:37:08 GMT -5
It would depend on the team. I agree with dishdaball that most of the time should be spent on training and school. But you want to be able to use that training against other teams. Practice drills are only so effective and you would like to see how that translates into a match. Along those lines, you may not be able to replicate some situations in the gym as you would in a real match. So, spring matches allow coaches to see some things other teams may be able to do but not their team.
But overall, if you have players injuried, you would want them to rest. Spring is a time to get healthy and focus on school. I know students who will intentionally take their harder or more time consuming classes during the spring instead of worrying about it during the fall.
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Post by BearClause on May 29, 2007 14:52:29 GMT -5
It would depend on the team. I agree with dishdaball that most of the time should be spent on training and school. But you want to be able to use that training against other teams. Practice drills are only so effective and you would like to see how that translates into a match. Along those lines, you may not be able to replicate some situations in the gym as you would in a real match. So, spring matches allow coaches to see some things other teams may be able to do but not their team. But overall, if you have players injuried, you would want them to rest. Spring is a time to get healthy and focus on school. I know students who will intentionally take their harder or more time consuming classes during the spring instead of worrying about it during the fall. I've talked to players and coaches. They want to go out and play against other teams. They may not be pushing themselves as hard as they would during Fall, but they want to win. |
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Post by Wolfgang on May 29, 2007 15:41:59 GMT -5
No.
Next question.
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Post by UTFan on May 29, 2007 16:05:47 GMT -5
Agree with BearClause. I think the girls like to compete. Concentrating solely on training gets real old and I believe there is a law of diminishing returns that begins to rear it's ugly head.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 29, 2007 16:20:18 GMT -5
its vs. it's
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Post by FatsDom69 on May 29, 2007 17:27:32 GMT -5
In light of seeing over and over again that schools are having trouble putting teams together for spring matches due to injuries, is the Spring program as constituted worth the trouble? A lighter version OK, or do coaches and players really need the work? Better off just letting everybody rest up, and practice as the body sees fit? Its hard to see how Spring season is worth much at all. I think in many cases it would be more beneficial to give players some real down time for some physical and mental rejuvenation. Limit the spring training & conditioning and allow the players to come back refreshed & revigorated for summer camp or preseason. There is intramural basketball and roller derby for their off-season competitive urges. |
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Post by Gorf on May 29, 2007 17:32:40 GMT -5
It gives backups and those that enrolled in the school in January a chance to build chemisty and get (more) court time.
It also allows fans to see their teams play again without having to wait until late summer or fall.
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Post by Go Iowa on May 30, 2007 6:49:36 GMT -5
Agree - IF the coach allows them to play! I know of a couple of coaches that never allow the bench to play unless he sees fit (just like a regular season). If I was a coach, I'd want to get those kids experience, but at least few don't seem to think that's necessary.
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Post by Not Me on May 30, 2007 8:28:17 GMT -5
Remember, that these are girls who come from High school where they play almost year round. From high school season, right into club season through June or July, go to a few camps, and then start the cycle again. For some, it is almost a shock as to how much less they can practice in the winter/spring time frame.
the girls typically love the game and want to play. I'm sure in many programs they are playing far more than you expect with open gyms, etc. Especially the girls who don't get to play alot in regular season matches.
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Post by ESTRELLA on May 30, 2007 8:54:13 GMT -5
It is worth while if you use correctly. Some programs that I know of use it for polishing skills (individual as well as team) and use the playing dates to see how those skills are being applied. When you talk about rest many schools are off in May so the kids have more than a month in a half to heal and start getting energized again. To me it all depends on the program. ESTRELLA  |
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Post by Gorf on May 30, 2007 9:44:57 GMT -5
Agree - IF the coach allows them to play! I know of a couple of coaches that never allow the bench to play unless he sees fit (just like a regular season). If I was a coach, I'd want to get those kids experience, but at least few don't seem to think that's necessary. I've seen coaches use some of their spring matches as a means of gaining experience for their bench players as well as for their starters (when they have a majority of starters returning.) I found it interesting to see coaches under those circumstances start their backups knowing it was fairly likely that they would fall behind their opponent's starters. Once the coach determined the team was far enough behind starters were substituted into the game en masses and were given the task of working hard to make a comeback to win the game. If they were able to win the game the coach would let the deficit increase for the next game. The backups gained experience by playing against the starters of the opposing team while the starters gained experience from playing under pressure to under the pressure of needed to make significant turnarounds in their attempts to win games. |
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Post by soothsayer on May 30, 2007 10:08:48 GMT -5
I've seen coaches make their starters play the first two games on their knees, then, in game 3, they'd make 'em just lie there on their backs, flailing away at the opponents' serves. Like turtles turned upside down on their shells. Only better looking. And sweatier.
Of course, those coaches were fired within the week, but it was still interesting.
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Post by icon on May 30, 2007 11:59:15 GMT -5
hpu's coach seems to think the 'spring season' was worth it --
"I feel very lucky that Dave Shoji and the University of Hawaii gave us this opportunity to get better,” commented Coach Kapis. The Sea Warriors not only showed up to play, but looked very respectful in doing so.
Freshman libero Charly Sampaga led the defensive specialists core with great passing and defense while fellow teammate and sophomore right-side Antje Buskies looked very intimidating with some solid blocks against some very strong hitters from the Rainbow Wahine. “We had about six practices on the beach to really work on our overall ball control, and it really improved us very quickly in all aspects of our game.
“I am really looking forward to starting practice in August, and I believe a very successful spring is a step in the right direction,” added Coach Kapis. The Sea Warriors are off as they prepare for their final exams, now setting their sights on a return to the postseason this Fall.
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