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Post by FreeBall on Sept 14, 2007 10:58:46 GMT -5
I asked a question in the "Hawaii Lineup" thread and then watched my post get buried by a flurry of posts related to the topic of that thread. (Not surprising since my post was marginally off-topic). In an attempt to get my question answered, I am starting a separate thread today.
Here's the original question - What are some of the common strategies for determining a team's rotation in a 5-1 system?
One thing I seem to recall is wanting to have better attacking options on the left and in the middle for most of the time that the setter is in the front row. Does this mean that the L1 and MB1 designations relate to the players on either side of the setter in the rotation? Thanks for any details that you can provide on this and other strategies.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Sept 14, 2007 11:00:47 GMT -5
Clockwise seems to work for me.
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Post by BearClause on Sept 14, 2007 11:08:19 GMT -5
Yeah - you typically want to maximize the time for your strongest OH and middle while the setter is in the front row. Probably run more slides.
However - probably more important is maximizing the number of rotations where your best hitters are facing the opponent's weakest blockers. I've heard of some coaches saying that a team didn't have a chance once the lineups were turned in at the start of a game.
Frankly, I can't really keep rotations straight when watching. I'd make a lousy down ref.
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Post by 808 on Sept 14, 2007 11:13:06 GMT -5
I asked a question in the "Hawaii Lineup" thread and then watched my post get buried by a flurry of posts related to the topic of that thread. (Not surprising since my post was marginally off-topic). In an attempt to get my question answered, I am starting a separate thread today. Here's the original question - What are some of the common strategies for determining a team's rotation in a 5-1 system? One thing I seem to recall is wanting to have better attacking options on the left and in the middle for most of the time that the setter is in the front row. Does this mean that the L1 and MB1 designations relate to the players on either side of the setter in the rotation? Thanks for any details that you can provide on this and other strategies. You should have listened to Dave Shoji's radio show this past week. He talked a lot about the differences in the L1 and L2 positions. Here's how one poster on the sportshawaii.com message board summarized some of what Dave said: www.sportshawaii.com/hs/viewtopic.php?t=18585
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2007 11:14:24 GMT -5
Having the middle lead the setter _generally_ makes for less stressful serve receive patterns.
Another factor is when your best OH is also your best passer. You might want to make her your L2 in that case.
But every team's going to be unique. A coach has to come up with the lineup that works best for the personnel.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 14, 2007 11:42:27 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, the 2003 USC team had its best rotation when April Ross was serving and Bibi Candelas and Emily Adams in the front row. Unless I'm mistaken, April was L1 and Keao was L2. They got buckets of points in that rotation, whether through service aces , overpass slams by Bibi or Emily, or lots of freeball attacks (due to April's tough serving).
But then again, this was the undefeated champion-to-be USC team and they scored lots of points in most rotations, so...
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Post by cruncher on Sept 14, 2007 11:59:50 GMT -5
Another consideration is where to start. Most teams start by default in rotation 1 (if serving first), and rotation 6 (if receiving first). This doesn't take match-ups into consideration, nor does it allow the team to present its best scoring rotations most often.
Does anyone have a good explanation for that deep-rooted custom?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2007 12:20:34 GMT -5
Maximizes rotations with 3 hitters.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Sept 14, 2007 16:15:04 GMT -5
I love the rotation schema running a 3-MB offense. Alas, noone is brave enough to run it this year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2007 16:27:16 GMT -5
Ohio is.
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Post by st15 on Sept 14, 2007 16:44:36 GMT -5
What does the three middle offense look like? MSU's rotation this year is little crazy. I haven't been to a match yet but from looking at gametracker this is how they rotate: M1- Jessica Hohl S- Lauren O'Reilly L1- Ashley Schatzle M2- Jenliee Rathje Opp- Katie Johnson L2- Vanessa King King, Rathje and Hohl are all middles and Schatzle and Johnson are the outsides. I don't know how this works yet because I haven't seen it in person, but it doesn't look especially effective since there aren't any outside hitters in the front row with the setter for one rotation. Hopefully I'll get a better idea of how things work tomorrow when they play Central Michigan. Also, I really have no idea for sure, but I think MSU's libero is only playing half-time this season for Vanessa King while leaving the other middles in the backrow. They really seem to be mixing things up this year.
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