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Post by bomber on Oct 22, 2007 10:33:02 GMT -5
At least she didn't fall down, holding the offending shoulder. That would have been a dead giveaway. This is volleyball, not soccer. ..........or basketball, where flopping has become an art form.
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Post by cougvb on Oct 22, 2007 10:35:28 GMT -5
I will bring up one other point (and will be ridiculed for it). Should PSU have reversed the call? Go ahead. Unload on me. Can the officials even reverse the call based on this? BYU called their own nets and touches. . . . . . in the 70's and early 80's. Would a ref take a touch call? I would certainly hope so, but doubt it will ever happen except at a family picnic volleyball game.
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Post by lonewolf on Oct 22, 2007 11:38:44 GMT -5
1) A referee will honor a call made by a player about themselves unless they feel their is definite reason to believe otherwise A player should never call themselves for a fault and a referee should not accept such a call. A player only sees a play from their own perspective. Say a player A calls herself for being in the net, however, she didn't see the opponent B that was in the net before her and opponeent B caused the net to contact player A. If the referee shrugs and says "it's fine will with me if you want to give the other team a point they don't derserve". I'm certain you, player A's teammates and couches would just love player A for making that cause against herself. Player A later in the game calls herself for touching the attacked ball before it lands out of bounds, however, opponent C made a back row attack and stepped on the attack line with the ball completely above the height of the net and stepped on the attack line before contacting the ball. The referee rolls his eyes and gives the opponents another underserved point. Player A's coaches are now so happy with her that they bench her for the rest of the season. Gorf, Since you quoted me I'd hope that you would read the entire quote. This is paraphrased from the NCAA volleyball rulebook (18.2.4.2), and if you notice it says "unless there is definite reason to believe otherwise". Such as the ball or another player hitting the net into the player. It is up to the discretion of the ref to decide if the player was at fault. In the case of the back row attack, that fault would come first so it wouldn't matter if the player admitted touching the ball. I can't remember which school, but there is a DII or DIII school that has a coach that requires her players to admit their touch calls.
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