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Post by vb on Jul 5, 2004 3:46:50 GMT -5
I give up!
During the indoor season I have a 28" vertical. Trying to play sand this summer I have a 6" vertical. What is the secret to high verticals for beach VB?
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Post by IdahoBoy on Jul 5, 2004 3:50:15 GMT -5
I give up! During the indoor season I have a 28" vertical. Trying to play sand this summer I have a 6" vertical. What is the secret to high verticals for beach VB? Try approach with shorter, quicker steps. Easier to keep momentum in sand with them. |
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Post by doctordubya on Jul 5, 2004 8:38:05 GMT -5
On sand (compared with indoors) you need to cut out a lot of the horizontal momentum in your approach, i.e. broad jump forward into the ball a lot less. Focus on driving up vertically.
(This should happen naturally if you do what IdahoBoy suggests, btw)
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Post by Eater on Jul 5, 2004 14:58:26 GMT -5
Smaller approach, smaller steps, jump up.
And get used to the fact that your beach vertical will never even be close to your indoor vertical. You have to totally readjust your timing. If your vertical is only half as high as normal, then you need to wait that much longer to jump. This was really hard for me especially, since I played middle blocker. I had to go from jumping when the ball is in the setter's hands to jumping when the ball is on its way down. Still don't have it down perfectly.
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Post by MichaeljBorga on Jul 7, 2004 15:08:51 GMT -5
Try reading the article at this link njvb.com/jsvba/jump.htmPutting both feet together when you plant to jump helps like crazy BTW. Michael Borga President Jersey Shore Volleyball Association jsvba.com |
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Post by doctordubya on Jul 8, 2004 4:13:25 GMT -5
Just to say welcome to the board to another refugee from the once-mighty rec.sport.volleyball...
This board isn't as good as rsv in its heyday, but it's the best I can find. There are a few too many posters who will write things like 'Went to see the US national team play last night - they won, great match' and provide no interesting insight whatsoever, but I guess beggars can't be choosers.
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Jul 8, 2004 4:39:34 GMT -5
Just to say welcome to the board to another refugee from the once-mighty rec.sport.volleyball... This board isn't as good as rsv in its heyday, but it's the best I can find. There are a few too many posters who will write things like 'Went to see the US national team play last night - they won, great match' and provide no interesting insight whatsoever, but I guess beggars can't be choosers. I know what you mean about that. Sometimes I'll go back and look at the rsv archives on dejanews, just to see old match reports put up by people like Ravi or Woozie. I miss those days. |
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Post by doctordubya on Jul 8, 2004 6:00:53 GMT -5
I know what you mean about that. Sometimes I'll go back and look at the rsv archives on dejanews, just to see old match reports put up by people like Ravi or Woozie. I miss those days. Yeah, whatever happened to all those posters? There were quite a few more besides these who would put up detailed, insightful and analytical match reports on rsv. I went back into the archives a little while to look up some things from before I started reading rsv, and found a report by a chap called Michael David Bertz on the USA v Bulgaria match at Atlanta 96. It had description, comment, analysis, everything - having read it, you felt like you had been there. Where are all these people who used to take the time to put up these reports? If the change to RPS has driven these fans away from the game then that is a pretty strong indictment of the new rules in itself. |
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Jul 8, 2004 7:04:02 GMT -5
Where are all these people who used to take the time to put up these reports? If the change to RPS has driven these fans away from the game then that is a pretty strong indictment of the new rules in itself. I remember them and they were great but you must remember, Ravi was a stats man and to take stats, you had to notate a lot of the details and enjoyed it. Most people just enjoy watching the match, not writing down every single error, ace, kill, attempts, etc..... It would be easier if you could tape it and then take the stats I guess. A photographic memory, I don't have! ;D Besides, I was exchanging comments and conversation with other volleyball fanatics and got to listen and occasionally exchange comments with a long time DI coach. |
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Post by doctordubya on Jul 8, 2004 8:01:33 GMT -5
I remember them and they were great but you must remember, Ravi was a stats man and to take stats, you had to notate a lot of the details and enjoyed it. Most people just enjoy watching the match, not writing down every single error, ace, kill, attempts, etc..... It would be easier if you could tape it and then take the stats I guess. A photographic memory, I don't have! ;D Besides, I was exchanging comments and conversation with other volleyball fanatics and got to listen and occasionally exchange comments with a long time DI coach. Ravi was an exception, it's true. I have to admit that I wouldn't have the time to write up the sort of stuff he used to produce, I guess this is true for most. However, as far as these boards go, all the stats and play-by-play isn't really needed anymore - college websites largely deal with this nowadays. Their reports are very dry and factual, however, and it's the personal comment and insight that most of us (well, me at least) are interested in anyway. This is particularly true for the US national team. The official USAV reports are so shallow, almost secretive. It's great to have people who have attended games give their view of how the team and players performed - the USAV report is never mention that e.g. Barnett got stuffed 12 times in addition to his 4 kills, or that Sullivan was the worst passer and took the least court of all the receivers, but posters here can do that. |
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Post by IdahoBoy on Jul 8, 2004 15:54:16 GMT -5
I find it interesting how the subject changed in this thread. However, I'll put in my two cents... (I seem to be proficient at that). By the way, I also have read rec.sport.volleyball back in the day. I was thrilled with it (but never contributed), I was too busy with college and making posters for the volleyball team.  One of the reasons that I think that the "experts" have problems with this board is that there are too many "novices" and vice versa. There are a few of us who try to be go-betweeners, but it's a hard task. I suggest giving a contribution when you can! Please, the follow up etc. is usually what takes the most time. If you can trust the rest of us to help answer simple questions then you can stick to the technical aspects that you prefer. However, in my opinion, there is no way that a forum like this can be as popular as rec.sport.volleyball due to its limitations of format. But... it's free, and it's here. |
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