Post by Gorf on Mar 2, 2005 13:15:52 GMT -5
goGopherBill said:
Gorf...run your figures and use the rate of return the stock market has given over the last 50 years..Of course the democrats dont want Americans to know the figure is like 7%
In fact go to I bonds on your search and use their calculator to see what you might get for your money...
Are you too lazy to run the numbers yourself and report them Bill?
You like throwing out rhetoric and second hand reports but you don't seem to like doing the legwork of actually putting information out that supports your theories or those that you're passing on from someone else.
FWIW: A 7% interest rate on bonds would amount to a 4% or greater inflation rate. So I guess you're in agreement that the "conservatives" aren't doing so well if you believe you can achieve that level of interest on long term bonds.
With the current US population at ~300 million your 40,000 per person comes to about $12 trillion.
That's ~6 times the government's current annual income, and significantly more than the goverment has spent in total on social security benefits since its inception.
Why do you hate our country?
(Had to throw that in since da "conservatives" always love that phrase!)
FWIW: ibond.com is an immigration bonding service
I'm shocked at you Bill!
So Bush doesnt invade Iraq...
or Afganistan...
I think we would still be dealing with those leaders denying UN weapons teams ..just as North Korea and Iran are doing right now.
Bush didn't invade Afghanistan.
Plus, in case you haven't heard the news repeated a multitude of times since GWB and his cronies claimed to KNOW exactly where the WMD's were in Iraq there have been no WMD's found in Iraq.
We've had rather open access to Iraq for years now and they finally (reportedly at least) just gave up on trying to find WMD's.
Our "wonderful" president and his people have lied about that information and their war has gotten many thousands or our own citizens killed or severely injured.
Isn't it amazing that Clinton can get impeached for lying about Monica. An act that involved no one but himself, his family, and Monica, but GWB can do worse and not even get a slap on the wrist?
All those on SS right now without being retired is most of the problem..the program was not designed or built for that...Many abuses...just like those on welfare...
Those people are a very large part of exactly what social security has been for a long time about Bill.
In 1934 SS was introduced, in 1939 survivor beneift were introduced, in 1954 disability benefits were introduced.
In 1984 Reagan and his pal Alan Greenspan increased the SS tax rates and modified the payout increases to their present form that is now in a "crisis" mode.
Without Reagan the wall still stands..and without Bush democracy doesnt spread.
We dig in ..just like the French and let our enemies surround us.
Kerry was wrong about everything...and you will see my sheepish friends...Baa
Power Block..side out
If you follow history, you know that Russia was in a crisis mode economically and would have had the same problems without anything Reagan managed.
Again:
1. What has "democracy" done for Afghanistan so far since they appear to be having the same (or worse) problems now as they were having before "democracy" entered their country.
2. Do you realize that democracy hasn't actually started in Iraq yet, and insurgency levels continue to rise, the dominant Shiite party in Iraq has heavy ties to the Shiites in Iran and may well opt to pattern their "democracy" after those of the regime(s) in Iran?
FWIW: You were too busy celebrating your block to notice the libero covering the block, the getting the ball to the setter who sets the OH who crushes it to the floor on your side all while you were dancing and prancing in premature celebration.