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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2004 10:57:44 GMT -5
AP just announced he called the White House and conceded. What a black day in American history.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 3, 2004 11:01:16 GMT -5
AP just announced he called the White House and conceded. What a black day in American history. BIK has other sentiments. |
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Post by 7thWoman on Nov 3, 2004 12:29:30 GMT -5
I think there will be some very happy folks at the Ventura County gun show this weekend. Perhaps I will drive my truck down there and blast some Toby Keith as I pull into the parking lot. Yee-haw!
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 3, 2004 13:07:23 GMT -5
BiK has other sentiments. Well it's a little brighter from my perspective but like (R)uffda, I do have some reservations about the Republicans having so much control. Some are already talking freely about banning abortion. Abortion now, what comes later? I just take comfort in knowing that ultimately the American people elected the American President, not the Europeans or others. |
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Post by rikitikitavei on Nov 3, 2004 13:25:06 GMT -5
Maybe Osama elected this guy!
Undeniably these videos did have a impact ......exit polls confer this
Let's see!
Choice - Here we have a guy that that is a simpleton, predictable, incurring huge debt, hated by the world, ineffective in finishing a war that is illegal, has led to the killing of 100,000 (50,000 of which are women and children), loves "hard work"....etc.
Or a guy who is talking about fiscally responsibility addressing the growing debt, talks openly of the problems we have, offers solutions, wants to re-embrace the world in which we are a part of .......sounds like this guy is more of a threat......
HEY DUDE! I truly truly hope that things get better......but we ARE losing ground in every area imaginable and have a debt that is massive to say the least.
Lets remember that this president had for 4 years a supportive people, Supreme Court, Governors, and congress. Now he has even more of all those.......can we expect more of the same?
Congrats BIK! I guess Bush is our Man.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 3, 2004 13:34:12 GMT -5
Congrats BIK! I guess Bush is our Man. Let's hope Bush does a better job of managing affairs this time around, for all of us. |
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Post by VolleyTX on Nov 3, 2004 16:15:28 GMT -5
This is the sentiment that I just don't get. If you are agreeing with all these mistakes that Bush made.... why did you vote for him?
What did Bush do:
He screwed up on terrorism big time (he let osama get away). You think with all the money and troops we spent on Iraq we could have easily gotten Osama with that money! Easily! Remember .... it was Osama that attacked the US... not Saddam!
All of his reasons for going to war with Iraq were proven to be incorrect. Yet he has never ONCE admitted to any mistakes made. The man has no itegrity whatsoever! Twice he has been asked about mistakes he has made in the past. Twice he has fumbled around and not been able to answer. COME ON! I always go to job interviews prepared for this question.
He screwed over the economy. He took government spending to new limits.... yet he's giving us tax breaks? That's like Enron increasing their dividend after it imploded. Stupid!
On top of all this.... the man has not vision for the globe. China and Russia are making strides to become more progressive.... to look at the world with a global vision. Bush is a top notch, yankee doodle, isolationist. He has sent us back 20 years.
I'm sorry.... but Bush majorly screwed up his presidency. I don't get why so many people want him reelected. If a CEO ran a company for four years and made this many mistakes..... HE WOULD BE GONE!
I would have voted Richard Simmons into office before I would every cast another ballot for Bush. (Yes... I did vote for him the first time around).
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 3, 2004 16:37:09 GMT -5
This is the sentiment that I just don't get. If you are agreeing with all these mistakes that Bush made.... why did you vote for him? Good question. Bush has made mistakes but it the end I think I trusted him more than Kerry. Kerry's stance on the Vietnam war bothered me. It's unfortunate that something that happened so long ago would still be an issue today. I'm embarrassed in saying that it was an issue for me. I also didn't like Kerry's internationalist attitude. Although I do agree that America must work with the World Community, I just wasn't comfortable with the thought of America groveling to the Europeans. I didn't vote for Bush because of moral issues. If moral Issues like abortion and gay marriage were important to me, I would have voted for John Kerry. Let me add that what John Kerry did in conceeding the race instead of dragging it on was very admirable. He looked at Ohio, discovered that he could not win the state, and made a decision to bring an end to this election. I was wrong about John Kerry. I had a more favorable opinion of him after the debates, and respect him even more now. I share (R)uffda's thoughts on Republican control of the Executive, legislative, and soon to be judicial branches of American government. This kind of power leaves much to be desired. |
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Post by UCSBVball on Nov 3, 2004 22:12:44 GMT -5
I agree with BiK on his statements above -- I have the same fears -- Kerry wanted to be liked, there are times to lead and times to follow. Bush will lead -- Europe will not lead -- If Bush fails we will have H. Clinton ugggg - he has motivation to do it correctly
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Post by Gorf on Nov 3, 2004 23:24:14 GMT -5
Did any of y'all ever hear what the actually final count of provisional ballots and absentee ballot was for Ohio?
It would be interesting to have all of those counted to get totals of votes for each candidate to see if they actually would have made a difference.
I thought it was fairly classy of Kerry to actually concede though and his formal concession speech was pretty good.
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Post by Wolfgang on Nov 4, 2004 13:14:24 GMT -5
You know who will be the most depressed?
Not Kerry or Edwards.
Their volunteers will feel the pain the most. They gave their time and energy (without pay) for a cause they truly believed in. Kerry and Edwards themselves probably get all sorts of reliable intelligence from their researchers and are probably more realistic about their chances (not that they thought they would definitely lose...). The volunteers, however, I feel for them.
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