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Post by BruinBoy on Oct 26, 2004 11:10:37 GMT -5
Got a buddy that went to Ohio State for a semester and still has some ties to the team. From what he has heard, there are some serious problems with the program. Some pretty unhappy guys, some NCAA violations, and a big cover up in the works. Anyone else heard any of this? Worth looking into!
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Post by VBJunkie on Oct 26, 2004 14:12:29 GMT -5
Gotta love bruinboy coming here and starting rumors. First he defends the Lewis boys for cheating and winning the national championship (don't get me wrong, I have lots of friends on that team and I had a blast watching them play, but it still doesnt make it right).
Then he starts rumors about The Ohio State vb team. Hanson is a stand up guy, and if your california buddies dont like it well they can get packing!
Im sure you have been seen that the west coast midwest gap on Mvball is getting to be a lot smaller then years past, so Im sure we are all going to be in for a great treat this season.
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Post by BruinBoy on Oct 26, 2004 15:12:02 GMT -5
Hey Junkie, the only "gap" that has been closed was by Lewis! With them out of the picture, the "gap" just got a LOT BIGGER BUD! And I'm not starting anything about Ohio State. Just passin on what I was told by a guy that has friends still on that team. Hanson is not a "stand up guy". From what i know, he is the one that got the NCAA all involved with the Puerto Ricans a few years ago, all because his administration wouldn't let him recruit more Ricans, so he didn't want anyone to be able to get them. Here is a guy that went to the National championship match with 2 PROFESSIONAL PUERTO RICANS ON HIS TEAM. From what i have been told, the ACTUAL signed contracts of both Esteves and Aja were sent to the NCAA. "STAND UP GUY MY A _ _. I'm not surprized that they are having some trouble at OSU, but i'm not making this up. Like I said, a friend of mind played there for a semester and knows guys on the team. Thats where my information came from. As far as defending the Lewis guys......nope not defending anything, just pointing out that about 75% of the teams in the NCAA probably have the same situation as Lewis did and certainly BYU, HAWAII, PENN STATE, and many others. Lewis "cheated" about as much as any of them have. And if you want to get really consistant and be real picky, then the NCAA should be stripping about 10 past championships. Even Dunphy said that.
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Post by legend on Oct 26, 2004 15:53:27 GMT -5
Guys: I want to clarify this situation with PR players as I keep hearing about PR players as professionals and the famous "pro league" in Puerto Rico. To this day no forfeit of championship has happened because of a player from PR. The league in PR was not considered a pro league until 3 years ago. All players that played there while playing in the NCAA had contracts but they were not paid, they had no salary. 3 to 4 years ago they leauge decided to bring pro-players in from all over the worls to make the league a lot more competitive. At that time the league met with NCAA officials and explained what they were doing. The NCAA stated that because they had "pro-players" there who did receive a salary for playing (like, Salmon, Millar, Roumain and many Brazilians) that the league was a professional league. At that time the players were told clearly that if they played in PR they would not be able to play in the NCAA. At that time players made their decision to go to the NCAA and not play the pro league in PR. What the teams opted to do is do an junior league with no pay for their junior players, all players under 22 and those playing in the NCAA were elegible to play and they did. From what I heard the team that won had: Acevedo - setter (UCLA) Figueroa - outside (USC) Barron - outside (USC) Campos - outside (George Mason) Escalante - middle (Lewis) Stawinski - libero (Springfield D-3) and some other members of the PR junior national team that played in Canada. Hope this helps clear up all the confusion with the PR league!
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Post by midwestfan on Oct 26, 2004 20:43:27 GMT -5
Legend, you are wasting good logic on BB! He doesn't want to hear the truth!
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Post by gooseberry on Oct 27, 2004 1:39:36 GMT -5
Shame shame on mens vb. Twenty one teams and just about everybody cheats and the ones who don't cheat know it's a lose-lose. Bad for the sport.
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Post by palo on Oct 27, 2004 15:22:44 GMT -5
Maybe your BUDDY is pulling your leg BruinBoy! I mean isn't he a trojan now??
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