When did we stop calling presidents President?

[Gorf]

From my recollectionsl it seems most people I knew back in the 80s and earlier seemed to refer to our presidents as "President Carter", "President Ford", "President Nixon", more often than not. There would be the occasionaly "Jimmy Carter" type reference but more often than not it was "President" preceding the president's last name.

I also seem to remember more people dropping the "President" references to President Reagan, however, that seemed to be more of a feeling of familiarity than lack of respect. People that watched his movies might refer to him as Ronald or Ronnie / Ronny Reagan.

With President Bush Sr. to some level there seemed to be a dropping of "President", however, I don't recall it being a majority of people.

With President Clinton, and now perhaps even more so with President Bush Jr. its often just Clinton, Bush, GWB, or other references with significantly less usage of "president".


Is that something others involved in our political debates here have notice as well over the years?

Is so, when did you first start to notice it happening?

[Barefoot In Kailua]

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Is so, when did you first start to notice it happening?

After William's hanky panky with Lewinsky made the Headlines.

[J.S. Bach]

I think society in general has backed off of using honorary and respectful titles.

Perhaps we should've called Saddam "Dictator Saddam", Bin-Laden "Mr. Bin-Laden", and Bush "Mr. Doesverylittlegoodforthiscountry".

[itsallaboutme]

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that GWB was not elected by the people but by some outdated system called the electoral college. GWB is not my President. I respect the office of the President but I have zero respect for the man, thus I have not, nor will I ever call GWB my President regardless of whether he' is able to steel another election or not.

[Barefoot In Kailua]

ItsAllAboutMe said:

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that GWB was not elected by the people but by some outdated system called the electoral college. GWB is not my President. I respect the office of the President but I have zero respect for the man, thus I have not, nor will I ever call GWB my President regardless of whether he' is able to steel another election or not.

When was the last time an American President was elected by popular vote? An outdated system or not, It's the way American Presidents are elected. If you don't like it, move to France!

[Deleted]

Which is why I don't understand why they are conducting polls. The only poll that would be relevant would be polls in individual states so we could get an electoral count.

[Barefoot In Kailua]

(R)uffda! said:

Which is why I don't understand why they are conducting polls. The only poll that would be relevant would be polls in individual states so we could get an electoral count.

I posted a link to an electoral count on the Kerry vs Bush thread.

If the Election were held today Bush would win the Presidency. ;D

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Barefoot said:

I posted a link to an electoral count on the Kerry vs Bush thread.

If the Election were held today Bush would win the Presidency. ;D

They've rigged the Florida election already?

[Gorf]

Barefoot said:

I posted a link to an electoral count on the Kerry vs Bush thread.

If the Election were held today Bush would win the Presidency. ;D

Your link was the results of polls being taken in each of the states?

I don't think that's the case.

[sonofbarcelonabob]

Presidential nicknames aren't new. People referred to Franklin Roosevelt as "FDR" even when he became President, and likewise Eisenhower was always called "Ike".

I guess if Kerry wins in November, we could try calling him "Ketchup". Or maybe "Waffle".

[J.S. Bach]

SonofBarcelonaBob said:

Presidential nicknames aren't new. People referred to Franklin Roosevelt as "FDR" even when he became President, and likewise Eisenhower was always called "Ike".

I guess if Kerry wins in November, we could try calling him "Ketchup". Or maybe "Waffle".

Some of my friends call him "Horse" because he has a long face. I've elected to call him "Frankenstein Kerry".

[Gorf]

SonofBarcelonaBob said:

Presidential nicknames aren't new. People referred to Franklin Roosevelt as "FDR" even when he became President, and likewise Eisenhower was always called "Ike".

I guess if Kerry wins in November, we could try calling him "Ketchup". Or maybe "Waffle".

The title for most dedicated wafller has to go to Bush though.