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Post by socalbud on Nov 21, 2004 22:27:13 GMT -5
How did the two teams match up this weekend? Who are potential starters for IPFW? Matt Z. and who else are their experienced players? Hot newcomers? How many games played? Scores? Did UCSB play first/second team? Any stats? Feedback please for us on the west coast.
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Post by I Luv Danny R on Nov 22, 2004 3:41:30 GMT -5
Hmm we bring back mostly our entire line up this year.
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Post by diggger33 on Nov 22, 2004 8:20:32 GMT -5
How did the two teams match up this weekend? Who are potential starters for IPFW? Matt Z. and who else are their experienced players? Hot newcomers? How many games played? Scores? Did UCSB play first/second team? Any stats? Feedback please for us on the west coast. As far as the IPFW is concerned.... well I think it might be a long year for Arnie and Co. Their passing and defense is not good at all. Setting will be questionable especially with bad passing. The libero is a touch of an upgrade from last year. There are really no good newcomers. The incoming freshmen setter from canada Steve Rogers just doesn't have very good hands. The middle blocker from Canada Josh Stewart seems to be in the mold of Mike Cummings which I don't think is the best thing in the world. (an average blocker and poor hitter) Matty was still Matty but the setting was pretty bad and inconsistent. The thing that strikes me is how bad IPFW was on the fundamentals. Just passing, serve receive was just not good. SB served ok but not THAT tough and IPFW just couldn't pass, just played with zero composure. You can blame it on exhibition or Fall season or whatever but I'm not buying it. SO.... IPFW probably regressed from last year but not that much. Of course this could all change with one or two spring recruits that Arnie could pull out of his hat. I thought SB looked decent. A bit on the small side especially with Bart setting but that said SB's best team is when Bart is setting. A. Mansfield is an a bove average libero. He actually got to play OH in the backrow in one game.... setter set him 2 of the 3 rotations... why Preston didn't leave him in when they were blowing IPFW out? I don't know.... Throw him a bone. Looked like he was having fun... Funny thing is Mansfield as an OH would be better than any of the options IPFW has... ;D |
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Post by VStone5 on Nov 22, 2004 13:58:39 GMT -5
This last poster seems a little more misinformed than most people. Some of the comments made hold no truth at all to them. I'm neither an IPFW or UCSB fan, I'm just a fan from the MIVA. What I noticed was that on Friday Matt hit rougly zero, so right now Matty is not Matty. Secondly, Steve Rodgers does not just have bad hands, he is a bad setter and an all around bad volleyball player. However, Josh Stewart the new middle is an immediate impact player regardless of what anyone believes. Anyone who came to the matches knows that this kid can play. He put up solid blocks and was unstoppable on offense, contrary to what the last poster has said. On Saturday he put nearly every ball he was set away. The new small libero plays great defense but can't pass and looks timid on the court. IPFW's outsides bring nothing to the team. They are bad passers and inconsistent hitters, however I do feel #8 who was a substitute passed better then the other two, but he also brings no offense. The new setter is a little on the small side but does alright on the block, not nearly what Dennis did. I'm gonna have to disagree about the setter being inconsistent, other then a few low sets to Matt on the backside. I think the set locations and just pure placement of the ball is far better then what Dennis did last year. The setter may not be world class, but his hustle gives a sparkplug to an otherwise quiet team. Sikca is still in the middle and still dominating all facets of his game, except he looked tired toward the end of the match on Saturday. His blocking is just like it was last year and we all know how that goes, however I thought he brought a little more fire on offense this year. Which reminds me that when this team passes the ball they can run the middle down your throat all night, and this was obvious in the few instances when they passed with some consistency. Overall not a bad showing for IPFW, they need a little more leadership and consistency in serving, passing, defense and they will be primed for the MIVA race. Any thoughts on any of this?
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Post by diggger33 on Nov 22, 2004 19:33:43 GMT -5
yeah I call BS on this post... No interest in IPFW?? whatever.... which benchwarmer are you? Any objective viewer of that match could tell that IPFW is going to be brutal. You agreed with me on almost all my points. Bad passing, no depth in setting, libero is average at best, etc.. If you honestly thought that it was a "not a bad showing" by IPFW then your standards are WAY too low. Couple of questions. 1. If you claim to have to interest in IPFW, how would you know that Matty hit zero? I prefaced my comment about Matty saying that the setting was inconsistent. The fact that you have to say that you have no interest in them just gives you away. If you have an interest in them, fine. Be honest about it. Where did you get your stats? 2. I didn't say Josh was bad... I was just saying that he was like Mike Cummings. He'll be an ok blocker but a poor hitter. Time will prove me right. 3. I was being generous with Steve Rodgers... I'll give him a pass considering he MIGHT be 19 and playing college for the first time. 4. I think Randolph will be a average setter IF and ONLY if he gets passing which he did not get this weekend, any team with bad passing will make even a good setter look bad and good passing will make an average setter look good. He runs a bit faster offense than Dennis did. He'll be ok... I am so not interested in getting into a pi$$ing match but time will prove me right. This last poster seems a little more misinformed than most people. Some of the comments made hold no truth at all to them. I'm neither an IPFW or UCSB fan, I'm just a fan from the MIVA. What I noticed was that on Friday Matt hit rougly zero, so right now Matty is not Matty. Secondly, Steve Rodgers does not just have bad hands, he is a bad setter and an all around bad volleyball player. However, Josh Stewart the new middle is an immediate impact player regardless of what anyone believes. Anyone who came to the matches knows that this kid can play. He put up solid blocks and was unstoppable on offense, contrary to what the last poster has said. On Saturday he put nearly every ball he was set away. The new small libero plays great defense but can't pass and looks timid on the court. IPFW's outsides bring nothing to the team. They are bad passers and inconsistent hitters, however I do feel #8 who was a substitute passed better then the other two, but he also brings no offense. The new setter is a little on the small side but does alright on the block, not nearly what Dennis did. I'm gonna have to disagree about the setter being inconsistent, other then a few low sets to Matt on the backside. I think the set locations and just pure placement of the ball is far better then what Dennis did last year. The setter may not be world class, but his hustle gives a sparkplug to an otherwise quiet team. Sikca is still in the middle and still dominating all facets of his game, except he looked tired toward the end of the match on Saturday. His blocking is just like it was last year and we all know how that goes, however I thought he brought a little more fire on offense this year. Which reminds me that when this team passes the ball they can run the middle down your throat all night, and this was obvious in the few instances when they passed with some consistency. Overall not a bad showing for IPFW, they need a little more leadership and consistency in serving, passing, defense and they will be primed for the MIVA race. Any thoughts on any of this? |
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Post by GoldenboyP3 on Nov 25, 2004 5:51:27 GMT -5
Ha Ha; I always enjoy reading what people who don't play the game have to say!!! Once in a while I glance at these volleyball forums and get a good laugh. I have some first hand insight on this topic that I would like to share, so this will be my first post ever.
I had the opportunity to train with the IPFW guys during a few open gym's in September so I know a lot about some of these guys. Let's start of with Matty: He is, and always will be an excellent player no matter who he is playing with. He has great ball control and every part of his game is fine tuned. In my opinion, he is the best player other than Soto that I have ever played with or against in the collegiate level. Now, despite this being said, there is no way that Matt can win on his own. He needs a team of role players around him who, when they get their chance, put the ball away instead of making errors. This may be hard to find.
I believe that the setting will actually be a strong point with this team. Mike Randolph has a great attitude and a killer instinct. Although he does not have much experience, he will find his way into being a leader of the team. I think he has good hands, and possibly just as good as an athlete as Dennis was but without the emotions... Dennis leaving will definitely the biggest blow to the team this year because of his experience with Arnies system.
The new center, Josh Stewart will clearly be an impact on the NCAA in the next few years. Here is a big kid with long arms and very athletic. I dont agree with the reference to Mike Cummings at all. Josh has the capabilities to be one of the best centers in the country; I dont know if he can do it, but he does have all the necessary tools.
Sedar, is Sedar. He is just a natural blocker and understands the game very, very well. He is an international player so he has a different style of play which I believe is to his benefit. He is a little bit out of shape now, but come January he will be all business.
Now to my favorite... The libero. Finally Ipfw has someone who was actually recruited for the position! This kid understands defensive position extremely well and is not afraid to get hit in the face, actually enjoys it. He needs some help with passing but I know it will come with time.
This post comes from me not being at the match this weekend or talking to anyone about it. My info is strictly from what I witnessed during a few weeks of open gym. I really like this team and if they can pass I believe they can do well.
That is all for me. P3
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Nov 25, 2004 11:36:48 GMT -5
Ha Ha; I always enjoy reading what people who don't play the game have to say!!! Once in a while I glance at these volleyball forums and get a good laugh. I have some first hand insight on this topic that I would like to share, so this will be my first post ever. I had the opportunity to train with the IPFW guys during a few open gym's in September so I know a lot about some of these guys. LOL. Listen to junior here, the rec league superstar. Here's his post translated: "I was on the C court at open gym and those guys were short a player on the A court, so they told me to come over and play on their court, but not to get in the way, and for god's sake don't even think about taking the second ball, that belongs to the setter. It was soooooo cool, the sorority girls who came with me to open gym, thought it was so cooooool that those big, studly, collegiate players let me play with them. I EVEN GOT TO SERVE ONE TIME. I sure wish they would have let me hit a ball even though everytime I go up to spike I end up blasting it 6 bricks high on the back wall of the gym. Those guys showed me how to keep my hands together when I bump the ball so I don't look like a total spazz. That Matt guy even showed me how to jump off two feet when I block and to keep my eyes open. It was scary 'cause I thought I'd get hit in the face, even though I don't really jump that high, but once I got the hang of it, I was getting like really good at it!" ROFLMAO. Anyone that calls a MB a "center" needs to check himself. You obviously don't have a friggin' clue. Most people on this forum have spent more time farting on a volleyball court, than you have spent playing volleyball in your entire life. What the HELL does not being "not afraid of getting hit in the face" have about being a good libero? If you're digging balls with your face, you obviously weren't taught good defensive technique. What an idiot. |
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Post by diggger33 on Nov 25, 2004 12:26:05 GMT -5
LOL SOBB.. THAT is some funny s--t right there... ;D GoldenBoy quotes are pure comedy... "Josh has the capabilities to be one of the best centers in the country; I dont know if he can do it, but he does have all the necessary tools." Wow if we all got credit for having potential we'd all be millionaires.... WTH is a "center" anyway? Doesn't he hike the ball?  About the libero... "He needs some help with passing but I know it will come with time." I can't imagine having to help a libero with passing.... THAT'S YOUR PRIMARY FUNCTION!! If you can't pass by now, forget it... "project" passers hardly ever pan out. LOL. Listen to junior here, the rec league superstar. Here's his post translated: "I was on the C court at open gym and those guys were short a player on the A court, so they told me to come over and play on their court, but not to get in the way, and for god's sake don't even think about taking the second ball, that belongs to the setter. It was soooooo cool, the sorority girls who came with me to open gym, thought it was so cooooool that those big, studly, collegiate players let me play with them. I EVEN GOT TO SERVE ONE TIME...... |
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Post by donkeykong on Nov 25, 2004 14:01:02 GMT -5
Goldenboy,
Since this is your first post you will soon learn this lesson. You are talking about IPFW...no one cares. There is a reason they let you play. They have no one else. Open gym means just that. Anyone can come and play "center".
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Post by GoldenboyP3 on Nov 25, 2004 16:29:20 GMT -5
Wow, you last three poster's are incredibly funny... I must be one hell of a rec league superstar huh??? I just wanted to share my opinion of the IPFW team, I know the guys pretty well and I had some insight on what I think they can do this year... And yes dousche, middle players are called "centers" throughout the world of international volleyball...
I am sorry that you three do not agree with my opinions about the team but for you to question my volleyball skills is something of another level. I think you are the people who are the REC league superstars if that... I have never played and will never play a day of rec league in my life. I was lucky enough to train with the IPFW squad during open gyms to get ready for my upcoming season. I laugh at you people who post things about me on this forum in the past, it is funny that people have an opinion of a persons athletic skills when they can't play the game themselves.
Once again all I wanted to do was post some news about the IPFW team. That 's all, I didnt expect to get bashed about my skills in the process.
P3 (Ptak)
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Nov 25, 2004 16:34:38 GMT -5
Wow, you last three poster's are incredibly funny... I must be one hell of a rec league superstar huh??? I just wanted to share my opinion of the IPFW team, I know the guys pretty well and I had some insight on what I think they can do this year... And yes dousche, middle players are called "centers" throughout the world of international volleyball... I am sorry that you three do not agree with my opinions about the team but for you to question my volleyball skills is something of another level. I think you are the people who are the REC league superstars if that... I have never played and will never play a day of rec league in my life. I was lucky enough to train with the IPFW squad during open gyms to get ready for my upcoming season. I laugh at you people who post things about me on this forum in the past, it is funny that people have an opinion of a persons athletic skills when they can't play the game themselves. Once again all I wanted to do was post some news about the IPFW team. That 's all, I didnt expect to get bashed about my skills in the process. P3 (Ptak) Haha. Ok, uhm..."Ptak" (ya right). Now, run along now. I think we've pretty much exposed you for the phoney that you are. Remember, keep your forearms extended and your thumbs parallel and rotated out when you pass. That two hand slappy thing you've been doing is tolerated in rec ball, but will be called in most "open gyms". LOL. Haha. "Ptak". I can't stop laughing. |
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Post by matty11 on Nov 25, 2004 17:23:30 GMT -5
Haha. Ok, uhm..."Ptak" (ya right). Now, run along now. I think we've pretty much exposed you for the phoney that you are. Remember, keep your forearms extended and your thumbs parallel and rotated out when you pass. That two hand slappy thing you've been doing is tolerated in rec ball, but will be called in most "open gyms". LOL. Haha. "Ptak". I can't stop laughing. Ummm..i think the joke is on you man. That really is Ptak |
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Post by diggger33 on Nov 25, 2004 19:00:07 GMT -5
Well I have no idea nor do I care too much if GoldenBoy really is Ptak or not... but I just don't think IPFW will be that great this year... I will disagree about Matty. He CAN carry this team in the MIVA because I think this will be a down year for the conference... He just needs someone to help carry the load. IPFW is just missing too many pieces and links. I certainly hope Arnie pulls a recruit or two out of his hat come spring. I just want to see better VB... .  Wow, you last three poster's are incredibly funny... I must be one hell of a rec league superstar huh??? I just wanted to share my opinion of the IPFW team, I know the guys pretty well and I had some insight on what I think they can do this year... And yes dousche, middle players are called "centers" throughout the world of international volleyball... I am sorry that you three do not agree with my opinions about the team but for you to question my volleyball skills is something of another level. I think you are the people who are the REC league superstars if that... I have never played and will never play a day of rec league in my life. I was lucky enough to train with the IPFW squad during open gyms to get ready for my upcoming season. I laugh at you people who post things about me on this forum in the past, it is funny that people have an opinion of a persons athletic skills when they can't play the game themselves. Once again all I wanted to do was post some news about the IPFW team. That 's all, I didnt expect to get bashed about my skills in the process. P3 (Ptak) |
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Post by GoldenboyP3 on Nov 25, 2004 19:11:27 GMT -5
What up Matty? How is the Canadian thanksgiving? I had a lot of pasta to celebrate the Italian thanksgiving!
These guys are funny huh? I dont think they understand that actual volleyplayers read this board and the garbage that is written about them.
In this column I have been called an "idiot" a "phony" and a terrible volleyball player. I think its hilarious that people hide under their screen names, and can write such stuff about someone. Maybe someday when I am a "has been" I will enjoy talking smack about college kids, maybe it will make me feel better about myself.... Who knows???
THis will be my last post. Like I said, all I wanted to do was give some info about the players on my old University team. I did not mean this to be an arguement, or even have to justify who I am.
OH yeah, thanks for the idea; "REC LEAGUE SUPERSTAR" will be a great addition to my resume for next year. I will have to let my manager know. Thanks!
-Jeff
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Nov 25, 2004 19:26:15 GMT -5
*YAWN*
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