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Post by cbrown1709 on Dec 10, 2004 1:17:44 GMT -5
I was trying to find a link to their website but can't find anything. Anybody have any suggestions? Looking for rosters and profiles.
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Dec 10, 2004 2:16:27 GMT -5
Isn't that the club that the one coach is always getting in trouble/disciplined/kicked out of the gym for his behavior at tournaments?
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Post by Rocky on Dec 10, 2004 2:18:28 GMT -5
Their website is balboabayvolleyball.net.
It does not look like any rosters are posted.
Perhaps you can contact them via e-mail on their web site.
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Dec 10, 2004 4:01:35 GMT -5
Isn't that the club that the one coach is always getting in trouble/disciplined/kicked out of the gym for his behavior at tournaments? You are thinking of LBC (long beach). |
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Post by hwy101 on Dec 10, 2004 4:25:13 GMT -5
You are thinking of LBC (long beach). It is actually, The LBC!  |
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Dec 10, 2004 10:32:15 GMT -5
Ah, ok, wrong club. Thanks!
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Post by fuzzball on Dec 10, 2004 13:24:15 GMT -5
Try Balboabayvolleyball.net
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Dec 10, 2004 15:12:11 GMT -5
It is actually, The LBC! I thought of adding the "The" but I didn't want to give them the satisfaction of knowing the difference! Great VB players, poor attitude brought about by Derek and company. |
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Post by My2Sense on Dec 10, 2004 19:41:30 GMT -5
I thought of adding the "The" but I didn't want to give them the satisfaction of knowing the difference! Great VB players, poor attitude brought about by Derek and company. It's funny how this string began as a question about Balboa, and morphed into a disingenuous, blanket stab at all the club's players. I sit by idly a lot and read these kinds of posts, but I'm not going to let anyone make a blanket statement like that unchallenged. Few are aware of the LBC club and past players more than I, as I lived through 3 gold medal seasons, including the inaugural season. The players and the parents in LBC during those years couldn't have been better people. The players were high character and strong willed. The parents were the best people to associate with. The LBC mystic started as an anti-image to shake up the pearly image of vb, and it served its purpose in inspiring passionate and disciplined play, and to intimidate opponents. As a result, an LBC player who was focussed and straight faced would be accused of sneering. A team group chant would be construed as poor sportsmanship. People found reasons to see wrong in anything. I would guess, that LBC has sent more productive players to D-1 colleges during those 3 years than any other. College coaches love/d getting LBC players because they come to play... with an aggressive playing style they learned from the coach. His personal style rubbed some people wrong, and as far as I'm concerned, all I can say is that's an issue between him and those people. It should have no bearing on the players, and they shouldn't be swabbed in a broad brush of disingenuous comments now. LBC won, and won often. People got tired of it, except those of us who were spoiled by gold. The coach is spirited, to say the least. Yes, he went off on a call he didn't like at JOs, and it cost him. I've seen other coaches do the same. They didn't create a bad-boy persona, and they didn't win like he did, so they got away with it. The LBC mystique is nothing compared to what goes on in basketball and football. It’s magnified greatly in vb because this sport’s image has been so clean. LBC players were never sent home from JOs like one entire club from Reno one year for throwing ice out a hotel window and hitting the hotel's general manager on the head. Not even close. If memory serves me, and I may be wrong, I think that was a certain Orange County team mentioned above. Other coaches have been evicted from events over the years as well. I recall an 18s tournament one year when the LBC 18s were in the middle of a tough match and the 17s team arrived from another venue, dropped their bags and came to the sidelines to chant and cheer for their older mates. I vividly remember thinking how great it was that there was such a positive camaraderie within the club. The 18s went on to win the match, and afterward the parents of the opposing club violently complained to the officials that those terrible LBC 17s had shaken up their boys with such boisterous cheering. I've resolved to the idea that no matter how good something can be, some people harbor such ill will for others that even a terrific, undeniable positive act can be construed as an evil deed. I saw that club take my own son and turn him from a gangly, misplaced middle into a pretty fine opposite. I saw many many players play up to and exceed their abilities to win and win big. The coach is a winner who has enabled many players to fulfill their dreams of winning gold and going on to college careers. I wish, all of you who don't care for what the coach did would get off the players and call him directly to express your feelings. And then I hope you'll feel good enough to move on. |
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Dec 10, 2004 19:51:06 GMT -5
It's funny how this string began as a question about Balboa, and morphed into a disingenuous, blanket stab at all the club's players. I sit by idly a lot and read these kinds of posts, but I'm not going to let anyone make a blanket statement like that unchallenged. Few are aware of the LBC club and past players more than I, as I lived through 3 gold medal seasons, including the inaugural season. The players and the parents in LBC during those years couldn't have been better people. The players were high character and strong willed. The parents were the best people to associate with. The LBC mystic started as an anti-image to shake up the pearly image of vb, and it served its purpose in inspiring passionate and disciplined play, and to intimidate opponents. As a result, an LBC player who was focussed and straight faced would be accused of sneering. A team group chant would be construed as poor sportsmanship. People found reasons to see wrong in anything. I would guess, that LBC has sent more productive players to D-1 colleges during those 3 years than any other. College coaches love/d getting LBC players because they come to play... with an aggressive playing style they learned from the coach. His personal style rubbed some people wrong, and as far as I'm concerned, all I can say is that's an issue between him and those people. It should have no bearing on the players, and they shouldn't be swabbed in a broad brush of disingenuous comments now. LBC won, and won often. People got tired of it, except those of us who were spoiled by gold. The coach is spirited, to say the least. Yes, he went off on a call he didn't like at JOs, and it cost him. I've seen other coaches do the same. They didn't create a bad-boy persona, and they didn't win like he did, so they got away with it. The LBC mystique is nothing compared to what goes on in basketball and football. It’s magnified greatly in vb because this sport’s image has been so clean. LBC players were never sent home from JOs like one entire club from Reno one year for throwing ice out a hotel window and hitting the hotel's general manager on the head. Not even close. If memory serves me, and I may be wrong, I think that was a certain Orange County team mentioned above. Other coaches have been evicted from events over the years as well. I recall an 18s tournament one year when the LBC 18s were in the middle of a tough match and the 17s team arrived from another venue, dropped their bags and came to the sidelines to chant and cheer for their older mates. I vividly remember thinking how great it was that there was such a positive camaraderie within the club. The 18s went on to win the match, and afterward the parents of the opposing club violently complained to the officials that those terrible LBC 17s had shaken up their boys with such boisterous cheering. I've resolved to the idea that no matter how good something can be, some people harbor such ill will for others that even a terrific, undeniable positive act can be construed as an evil deed. I saw that club take my own son and turn him from a gangly, misplaced middle into a pretty fine opposite. I saw many many players play up to and exceed their abilities to win and win big. The coach is a winner who has enabled many players to fulfill their dreams of winning gold and going on to college careers. I wish, all of you who don't care for what the coach did would get off the players and call him directly to express your feelings. And then I hope you'll feel good enough to move on. ****YAWN**** |
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Post by Rocky on Dec 10, 2004 20:39:07 GMT -5
Their website is balboabayvolleyball.net. It does not look like any rosters are posted. Perhaps you can contact them via e-mail on their web site. In case cbrown is still looking for the website. The thread seemed to have taken a turn down a different road to a different So Cal beach . . . |
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Dec 11, 2004 11:15:47 GMT -5
It's funny how this string began as a question about Balboa, and morphed into a disingenuous, blanket stab at all the club's players. I sit by idly a lot and read these kinds of posts, but I'm not going to let anyone make a blanket statement like that unchallenged......... I am glad you felt it helped your son but I stand by my statement. This has all been hashed in the past on another board. No sense boring the VT board. Besides, I'll be in Long Beach next week and I'll be looking for James Brown to be dancing on the floor! :-)  |
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Post by fuzzball on Dec 13, 2004 15:44:35 GMT -5
No junior team has been a lightning rod for controversy like LBC. Modeled on the Raider mystique, their transgressions have been well documented. The cumulative result of the incidents, both small and large, real and maybe somewhat exagerated, was a team you loved to hate. The matches between LBC and Balboa at every level were championship caliber, and more often than not produced the eventual gold medal winner.
I too remember a gangly middle for Asics/Long Beach but his potential was obvious even then. He then moved over to LBC and became a great opposite. I'm sure that the LBC coaches had something to do with it, but from what I know of the kid, he would have been a great player at either Balboa or LAAC/SCVC, and probably would have tipped the balance of power to whatever team he played for. Derrick can thank him for at least two of those gold medals.
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Dec 13, 2004 23:18:21 GMT -5
I heard the 18's match of the young USAV Boys Juniors season occurred on Sunday between SCVC and Sports Performance. A 2 hour marathon with hundreds of people watching the action. Can anyone give an eyewitness report?
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Post by bangdown on Dec 14, 2004 11:39:52 GMT -5
I was witness to this match and it was good but not great. You had two evenly matched teams going head to head and the better team won. I thought the ball controll was seriously lacking on both sides of the court. Blocking was pretty solid for both squads and serving was a little better than average. Sports Performance lost to Club Cactus later in the day in playoffs. SCVC, Riptides and LBC are going to get much better as the year progresses. I have a hard time believing that Sports Perf. is going to improve especially if McKee plays on the left side. I'm going to mention a match that I thought was better and that was SCVC vs. Balboa Bay 17's in the quaterfinals. SCVC was all over Balboa's very good outside (I think he got blocked on his first five swings) but Balboa covered him and they hung in there as SCVC pounded away. I understand that one of Balboa's starting outsides did not even play the whole tourney because of injury. Anyway, it seemed that Balboa had a game plan and it was to serve tough. They made it difficult for the setter. SCVC won the first game something like 27-29. In game two, Balboa came out very solid and just made some incredible plays defensively. SCVC came out ready to finish as their lefty smashed the ball down the line a couple times. Hits like that can demoralize teams, especially young ones. Balboa seemed to enjoy playing as all the players and coaches were having a good time, very relaxed and seemingly very confident. Balboa won a tight second game behind solid backcourt play and a very good outside hitter who also seemed to block extremly well. Going to the 3rd game you would think that Balboa was outmatched at 5 positions but they continued to dig balls and finish each point. Great rallies as Balboa built a nice lead early only to watch SCVC climb back in it before the side change. A few huge blocks and an ace propelled Balboa to 14-11 as SCVC sided out for 14-12. Balboa finished on the ensuing play. Two very good teams and lots of maturity on the part of Balboa to hang with the more experienced SCVC 18's team. Balboa's setter ran a solid offense. He is probably only 6'2 or 6'3 but he is very talented. I didn't get a chance to stick around but I've since learned that Balboa 17's went on to win the tourney again beating SMBC 18's and LBC 18's. Sports Performance's 2nd team played pretty well but looking at the scores seemed inconsistent. And ST. Louis HP had a good showing as well. It's great to have teams from the midwest come out here. Good tourney and great job to the Balboa 17's squad.
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