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Post by Junior Ball on Feb 20, 2003 11:43:21 GMT -5
Help?
What is the situation with boys signing now?
Has the window open up again.....if so for how long?
What should thes second tier players expect?
Have any recent signings occurred?
Really need to help quell some fears!
Thanks
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Post by My thoughts on Feb 20, 2003 12:52:02 GMT -5
I'd say at this point most of the schools have signed the HS seniors they want and are now into the mode of scouting juniors for the following year's signing campaign.
There are always exceptions, and unfilled needs at this stage, but they are thinking ahead now for the most part. Spring sports have a dissadvantage because the senior year's seasons are played after the signing periods, so it's the junior year that is important. Fortunately there's also the summer J.O. to extend the season and give the coaches another look before the senior year begins.
Because there might still be some openings, I'd recommend you get aggressive to try to get one. Being the middle of the men's season, some coaches are getting a good feel for their current rosters, making some projections for their next year's rosters, and may be formulating some thoughts about changes for next year. There could be some surprising openings. You just never know. If a team is struggling it may indicate some potential changes for next year.
You might ask your hs or club coach to make some calls for you so you stand out. The college staffs can be swarmed with letters and tapes, and at this point you need to make an impact. If you have a credible coach who can pick up the phone and convince a college coach to take a serious look at you you'll be ahead of the pack.
Good luck.
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Post by helpy helperton on Feb 20, 2003 19:53:20 GMT -5
the biggest thing you can do if you really want to get recruited is to do a lot of the work yourself. Contact coaches via e-mail and send tapes when they request them. i was behind the pack last year and started in april, but when my tapes were sent out, i got a big scholarship, though it wasn't to one of my top five schools.
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Post by fuzzball on Feb 21, 2003 17:01:46 GMT -5
Scholarships, what scholarships. No D-1 recruit gets a full ride. I know of 1 who got 80% but he's a slam dunk blue chipper. Helper must be on a women's team because even the top of the class get low percentage rides, if that. If you're not in the top 10, the best the you can hope for is to walk on at a school. And if you're not at least 6'4" that's a long shot. I would like to see the ratio of scholarships men to women for freshmen. I estimate something like 0 to 1,000. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TITLE IV!!!
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Post by the future on Feb 21, 2003 18:16:26 GMT -5
Thank you for the rant......I think you meant Title IX not Title IV(4).
If personally know that there still is some money out there and in some surprising areas.....but not much I totally agree. It is very frustrating!
The eastern schools often start late and are still looking to sign some players for next year...so there is still alot of room.
But the BIGGEST problem to overcome is convincing parents and players that there aren't full scholarships being offered very much......being recruited means that the school wants you.....gets as much financial assitance/academic $$ as possible and offers not Athletic aid or maybe $1000 here or there......that is hte reality of the situation.
But getting the opportunity to go to a BYU, USC, OSU, BSU, PSU, Pepperdine, UCI....all of which are great academic and very good college atmospheres..., be wanted there, find a fraternity of guys that you do battle with, is an honor in itself.
It is so difficult.....
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Post by My thoughts on Feb 21, 2003 19:19:26 GMT -5
The word scholarship can be defined as anything from books to 100%. I personally know multiple people who have rea 100%ers to D-1, so it does happen. It's rare, for sure, but it does happen.
There are also some creative ways a school can help make it easier for a student-athlete, particularly if he is a good student. There are accademic scholarship monies available, and often a combination of athletic and accademic monies can equate to 100% or close to it.
Another route to go is the JC route. This is especially true if you're still physically developing and aren't getting D-1 looks because of it. So you can go there for a couple of years, grow, get better, and then you can have two years of college level experience to offer a D-1 coach. If he's got a young team and needs someone who can step in right away you have a distinct advantgage over an incoming freshman.
Just some thoughts.
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Post by PeppVBDad on Feb 21, 2003 19:33:09 GMT -5
My understanding from the NCAA themselves as well as a couple of MPSF coaches is that any academic, need-based or grant money added to athletic money must itself be applied against a program's 4.5 total scholarships. Hence, such combination is not done. The sources are often mixed but without the athletic component. Some kids have a great urge to sign a letter of intent so they'll take 20 percent athletic and borrow the rest, even if they can get more free money elsewhere. It's an ego thing and one that is very ill-advised. If I didn't already imply so, a letter of intent is only applicable if athletic money is awarded.
Examination of the top men's players of the past few years reveals a fairly even mix of athletic, academic and need-based funding. This is even true across the All American level players. Many All Americans never signed a letter of intent!
Hooray for Title IX and slow-motion ball sports.
PeppVBDad
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Post by houseofhandsdreamteam on Feb 22, 2003 1:49:02 GMT -5
Players can only give a verbal commit right now.
Around April 15th is the 'late' signing period.
There are still schools with money looking for players. There are still recruits making visits right now.
Definitely be aggressive contacting the programs. It helps to scout their roster, players grade levels, positions.
Jablonsky and Reid were recent commits to UCI Any others give verbal commits since last Nov.?
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Post by Psychopotamus on Feb 22, 2003 10:22:48 GMT -5
I don't mean to start rumors, but I would be shocked if coaches didn't pull strings and use academic scholarships, grants and other forms of compensation in order to supplement the meager scholarships they have. It happens all the time with faculty, and im sure a coach would go twice as far for an athlete than the administration would for a regular student. Some men's volleyball players must get full rides in this way as well.
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