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Post by bigfan on Jul 30, 2008 10:31:29 GMT -5
www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080730011912.msb260uf&show_article=1China will censor the Internet used by foreign media during the Olympics, an organising committee official confirmed Wednesday, reversing a pledge to offer complete media freedom at the games. "During the Olympic Games we will provide sufficient access to the Internet for reporters," said Sun Weide, spokesman for the organising committee. He confirmed, however, that journalists would not be able to access information or websites connected to the Falungong spiritual movement which is banned in China. Other sites were also unavailable to journalists, he said, without specifying which ones.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 30, 2008 10:54:12 GMT -5
I think China is getting cold feet as the Olympics are getting closer, or this was what they had planned all along. There was a story on NPR this morning about the dearth of visas being handed out to visitors that does not fit the Chinese government's preferred demographics. The hotel owners are quietly panicking as more booked rooms are being returned because of visa restrictions.
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Post by bigfan on Jul 30, 2008 11:11:29 GMT -5
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Post by pineapple on Jul 30, 2008 11:37:45 GMT -5
It's turning out that choosing China for the Olympics is a big mistake. Racial discrimination allegation, smog, now internet ban! What else?
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Post by Mocha on Jul 30, 2008 19:02:21 GMT -5
That's all right, we are already used to censoring on this board.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Jul 30, 2008 21:24:33 GMT -5
China could really learn something about freedom of expression from the USA. Censorship is not the way to go. Our secret police don't censor anything, they just listen to all internet/telephone traffic and run it through huge aggregator databases so the double plus ungood people can be identified for further surveillance, put on no-fly "terrorist" lists, etc.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Jul 30, 2008 21:31:53 GMT -5
That's all right, we are already used to censoring on this board. Yeah, for example, someone on another thread this week said it had "gone downhill" because someone else (full disclosure: yours truly) suggested that perhaps there were females in the stands at volleyball games who enjoyed watching young in shape females excel at a sport. Shortly after, the thread was locked. Although the thread itself did indeed have no reason for existence, no explanation was provided for censoring it. I have to believe that our usually fair-minded moderator locked it because of its creator's trollish inanity, and not because my comment was perceived as "going downhill". Alas for the fans (and players and coaches and trainers) that dare not speak their names! |
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Post by callinup22 on Jul 30, 2008 21:32:39 GMT -5
Your 1984 references make me so happy I could piss anti-Marxist literature.
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Post by simonsun on Jul 31, 2008 14:40:12 GMT -5
China could really learn something about freedom of expression from the USA. Now it's officially legal for the government to eavesdrop any citizen's phone calls and you are telling me the world needs to learn freedom from USA? |
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Post by OverAndUnder on Jul 31, 2008 15:15:17 GMT -5
China could really learn something about freedom of expression from the USA. Now it's officially legal for the government to eavesdrop any citizen's phone calls and you are telling me the world needs to learn freedom from USA?  You only quoted the first sentence. You missed the entire point of my post. I could ruin it with a long explanation, or I could just ask you to trust me when I say I agree with your sentiments exactly. |
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Post by simonsun on Jul 31, 2008 16:04:47 GMT -5
So you truly believe what they say... Secret police with good will who has a license to kill...
Now they don't even need a warrant to eavesdrop. Good for them.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 31, 2008 16:12:34 GMT -5
So you truly believe what they say... Secret police with good will who has a license to kill... Now they don't even need a warrant to eavesdrop. Good for them. Can anyone really be this oblivious? |
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Post by OverAndUnder on Jul 31, 2008 16:36:46 GMT -5
Unfortunately, in a text-only communication medium a lot of nuance gets lost in translation.
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Post by simonsun on Jul 31, 2008 17:26:03 GMT -5
So you truly believe what they say... Secret police with good will who has a license to kill... Now they don't even need a warrant to eavesdrop. Good for them. Can anyone really be this oblivious? Yes someone can. As long as they believe in USA as if it's a religion. USA has drifted too far from its original course. Personally I hate what the Chinese government is doing now. For this reason alone I'm not planning to move back. But I never believe USA could be a role model in this area. No way at this time. Maybe it was, twenty years ago. But not now. If you are happy about secret police go through people's everyday record looking for traces of possible "terrorist activity" at will, for the common good of people, you can go ahead and believe USA is the greatest, the most democratic country in the world. I totally got what you said but I'm sorry I don't believe that's the case. The Chinese government is indeed far worse, but it needs some better teachers. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 31, 2008 17:36:30 GMT -5
I totally got what you said Maybe, but I don't think you understood what he meant. |
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You only quoted the first sentence. You missed the entire point of my post. I could ruin it with a long explanation, or I could just ask you to trust me when I say I agree with your sentiments exactly.