Lew8ftln
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Post by Lew8ftln on Apr 20, 2005 19:10:57 GMT -5
any talk of Wayniac leaving for Stritch next year would be news to me.
Oh and good luck w/ team WVC...w/ so much talent, it really is too bad the conference team couldn't get into AA where it truly belongs....but I expect atleast a better finish than last year...hopefully you get to chew up some more West Coast along the way ;-)
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Post by star035 on Apr 20, 2005 19:13:07 GMT -5
If Oshkosh loses all their seniors - setter Sederberg, their "big nasty" in the middle and jumpin' hitter #6, and a couple others, that's quite a blow. Losing the freshman middle would hurt even more.
Ball State loses some key players - setter, their best middle, etc. Dayton loses a couple of their studs. Lakeland loses setters and their libero plus a couple others, I think. In the Big Ten, Purdue, Michigan State, and Ohio State all get hit hard. Illinois seems to have a lot of their talent back. They're playing now with a tall freshman setter, their best middle (Fabrizius?) is just a sophomore, and their outsides - Johnson and Tupuritis - return. I hear that one of Illiniois' best high school hitters, Kevin Deeke, will be going to Illinois. They just reload. Indiana is a young team, and might be the other Big Ten competitor.
Who's returning the talent out west? Colorado seems to have a pretty young team. Arizona is another team that just reloads (their B team won nationals over Illinois). Does Cal lose both Glitz and the other outside (#13)?
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Post by Gordon55M on Apr 20, 2005 22:02:54 GMT -5
Ball State loses more than just some of their players...as of right now there probably won't be a team here next year. A few of our frosh were attempting to get into the architecture program and couldn't so I know one or two are going to Wis (UW-Mil) I think. If next year were to start today, we would only have two players, the only starter being our short libero. I will be here, but have lost all interest in playing club anymore. Hopefully they can have a team here, but don't expect anything out of them(not that anyone does)
I was just thinking about it, we probably had one of the older teams this year, 26, 24, 23, 21, 21, 20, 19..perhaps that is why we got so tired on the last day (that and we are all out of shape)
But oh well, I hope the midwest represents again next year.
And Chuck, you don't have to defend your team to anyone, you guys were the most complete/best team there. All I can say is thanks for not knocking us out in the semi's of nationals like you had in the previous three times in other tournaments this semester. Enjoy your championship while CAL dreams of what could have been for them.
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Post by nellakwah21 on Apr 20, 2005 22:18:58 GMT -5
That would suck if Ball State didn't have a club program, especially since they are one of the few teams around the midwest with a Varsity too. But from what I hear, that team barely gets any funding/respect/love from the Athletic Dept already. What is the turnout for tryouts? Surely there would be enough to at least sustain a team from that. If you don't mind me asking, Gordon, why have you lost all interest in club ball? Did something happen this season or are you just kinda tired of playing vball in general.  -For all you Midwesterners- Got any VERY early predictions on the top teams from each conference in the MIVA? I know alot depends on who returns, since many of us come back for a 5th (or more) years. |
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Post by AAVolley on Apr 21, 2005 0:30:58 GMT -5
You hear about sore losers all the time but whoever is posting for Marquette seems to be a sore winner. Who cares what everyone else thinks or where you are placed among past tournament champions. There is this prevalent chip on the shoulder attitude with some club programs that just allows more people to be critical of them. The stronger an argument you make to defend yourself the more it seems like you are overcompensating for something. You don't need to defend yourself. If I were you, and I had won, I wouldn't even enter this conversation because winning speaks for itself. Go enjoy yourself and stop acting like you don't know what to do when you win. Take the high road on this one...
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Post by star035 on Apr 21, 2005 7:33:36 GMT -5
-For all you Midwesterners- Got any VERY early predictions on the top teams from each conference in the MIVA? I know alot depends on who returns, since many of us come back for a 5th (or more) years. Marquette, Illinois, and Dayton will lead their conferences, I expect. Illinois will not have much competition in the Big Ten. Up north, in addition to Lakeland, I'd say watch out for Wisconsin-Whitewater. As the 48th seed, they made some noise at nationals and according to the program, they don't lose anybody. |
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Post by Gordon55M on Apr 21, 2005 10:20:06 GMT -5
If you don't mind me asking, Gordon, why have you lost all interest in club ball? Did something happen this season or are you just kinda tired of playing vball in general. I am not sick of vball. This past season I had horrible shin splints(hence the nice white leg warmers I had to wear) and playing/walking in general was very painful. This summer I am going to try the beach thing pretty seriously and see what happens so by the fall I will be burned out. Also I don't want to play on a team where I have to get 40 sets a match for us to remain competative. A team like Marquette where everyone holds there end of the deal seems really appealing to me now adays. I also plan on playing indoors over in Europe next summer/fall so I will probably use next year to train and finally hit the weights to get in better shape and to get a vertical. Normally we get about 3 frosh a year here, so they are going to operating with about 5-7 guys next year if they are lucky. It's tough, because any half way decent frosh can try out for the varsity team and make it here because the varsity team has sucked ass as of the past two years. But if the clubs guys can put together a good team in the spring with maybe an ex-varisty player, I would consider coming back, but I really doubt it. Do you Wis. guys do the Waupaca grass tournament? Last summer my team won the Luau in Chicago so we are going to try to come up there and see how we do. I hear the comp. is better up there. I know last year at the Luau a few MATC guys and Oshkosh guys were there playing so I assume they will be up there as well. |
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Post by MarqVB11 on Apr 21, 2005 11:04:55 GMT -5
Do you Wis. guys do the Waupaca grass tournament? Last summer my team won the Luau in Chicago so we are going to try to come up there and see how we do. I hear the comp. is better up there. I know last year at the Luau a few MATC guys and Oshkosh guys were there playing so I assume they will be up there as well. I know I'm playing at Waupaca with Weisberg (also from GBN, OH for Wisconsin) and the former setter from Wisconsin, but Weisberg put us in A, not open. Hayworth, Plochocki and Stempel (MATC guys) are definitely registered. You can check out the site at waupacaboatride.tripod.com/home.htmlYou'll do more than alright in the open division. |
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Post by MarqVB11 on Apr 21, 2005 11:12:53 GMT -5
Marquette, Illinois, and Dayton will lead their conferences, I expect. Illinois will not have much competition in the Big Ten. Up north, in addition to Lakeland, I'd say watch out for Wisconsin-Whitewater. As the 48th seed, they made some noise at nationals and according to the program, they don't lose anybody. You aren't forgetting Oshkosh in WVC/Midwest 10 are you? |
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Post by star035 on Apr 21, 2005 11:19:44 GMT -5
You aren't forgetting Oshkosh in WVC/Midwest 10 are you? I'm not forgetting them, but my sense is that without Sederberg, Semrad, Thomas and a couple other seniors, they'll be down a couple notches. Then again, their B team is strong, so maybe they, too, will reload. But losing their "big three" is bound to hurt them. |
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Post by jas1vans on Apr 21, 2005 11:26:52 GMT -5
First off, congrats to all teams from the midwest, I was reading this site before nationals and nothing made me happier than seeing the west coast bias destroyed. Note to AZ: Lakeland was missing one of their key players. Second, congrats to teams from WI. I've been saying it all year this state is stacked with some of the best competition I've seen. Marquette, Oshkosh, Lakeland.....would finish on top if this were done again 7 out of 10 times. These teams didn't need to hype themselves up. They walked in the gym knowing what was about to happen. They've done it all year. Stop crying.
Chuck, stop defending you team. We all know you were the best. It's nice that you console these babies by replying to their whines about how they were somehow slighted. Also, I owe you a beer. I saw you at the bar on Sat. but I was in no condition to even be there.
Gord, if you have players coming to UWM next year, please, please tell them to contact the team. (Email is on MIVA site) I hope they can bring over some of the heart you play with. We need to get a solid base here. It's pathetic how many people quit this team every year.
Hope to see everyone at Waupaca, if you aren't sure if you're going, go anyways. It's some of the most fun you'll have on a driving range.
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Post by Gordon55M on Apr 21, 2005 12:15:26 GMT -5
I just signed my team up for the open divison at Waupaca...looks like a few names I know have already signed up. So it looks like I will see a lot of you there. If anyone likes to play beach, come down to North Ave. any afternoon this summer. I am pretty sure I will be there on a daily basis.
I know for sure Dan Garwood our starting RS is going to UW-Mil next season. If you want to e-mail him and give him your club info his e-mail is:
djgarwood@bsu.edu
He is a decent player, needs some work but should start for you guys I would think. He was a middle but we turned him into a RS. He isn't an intese player nor does he have any emotion, so don't expect too much of a spark from him. He is solid and young, so that is all that really matters. The other is our backup middle who is looking at MSOE, I am not sure if he is looking at UW-MIL.
And Chuck, I have a DVD of you guys playing vs. us if you want one. I burned too many copies for my team and kept forgetting to give the extra to Nash. If you want it just send me you or Nash's address and I will put it out in the mail. It is a good example of a serving clinic.
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Post by Onceabigblocker on Apr 21, 2005 14:14:48 GMT -5
I was just thinking about it, we probably had one of the older teams this year, 26, 24, 23, 21, 21, 20, 19..perhaps that is why we got so tired on the last day (that and we are all out of shape) Holy cow, please tell me that a team wasn't tired on the last day?? I know all of you 'young pups' were not around NIRSA Nationals in the 90's, but up until the mid 90's, it was a 2 day tourney, with the same number of matches. And up until what, 2000 or so....it was sideout scoring. Lets see, the top teams Marquette and Oshkosh played, what 8-9 matches over 3 days. With BREAKS in between??? Wow, thats like 3-4 hours of volleyball a day. NIRSA is a cakewalk compared to some of the tourneys you guys play in the regular season, isn't it?? And Chuck (apparently thats your name), I am sorry to offend. I should not say you were among the "worst" Champions ever. Thats a statement that I cannot defend. I should have delightfully stated that of the 10+ NIRSA Champions I have seen, Marquette (along with perhaps Maryland circa 96') was the least impressive in my opinion. And its just that, an opinion. I never said you were not deserving, lucky or anything else. And in fact, I mentioned the field was among the deepest I can ever remember. It seemed like you had a good group of guys, that other teams liked you, etc., and have nothing negative to say any further. The same cannot be said for some of the arrogant championship teams I have seen in the past. |
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Post by Gordon55M on Apr 21, 2005 16:05:40 GMT -5
Holy cow, please tell me that a team wasn't tired on the last day?? I know all of you 'young pups' were not around NIRSA Nationals in the 90's, but up until the mid 90's, it was a 2 day tourney, with the same number of matches. And up until what, 2000 or so....it was sideout scoring. Lets see, the top teams Marquette and Oshkosh played, what 8-9 matches over 3 days. With BREAKS in between??? Wow, thats like 3-4 hours of volleyball a day. NIRSA is a cakewalk compared to some of the tourneys you guys play in the regular season, isn't it?? First, don't take everything so serious. You act as if you were disrespected by my comment. Second, I know my team was tired on Saturday A) Our top three players all were hurting (shins, knee, and back) B) Our middles were hung over, 1 couldn't stop yaking sat. morning. C) We were the laziest 7 volleyball players I have ever seen all season. We have no problem with our laziness, so you shouldn't either. It is the way we choose to play and we had a ton of fun doing so. That is all that matters to us, that WE had fun and enjoyed OUR team. I am not making any excuses for us for losing. We didn't deserve to win at all and we know that and are happy with where we finished. The whole purpose of that comment was just me more or less thinking outloud that I thought our team was older than the average NIRSA team. I am aware of old school scoring, and played using it for quite a few years. Yes, you do get more tired in those games. I am sure nationals back in the day was a bear. Congrats to the people who played that way and back then, I am sure they had to be in good physical condition all year. But that was then and this is now. I think it is time to move on from the past and applaud all the current NIRSA Champions. The Arizona's and West Coast teams from the 90's are not walking through the gates at the NIRSA championships anytime in the future, so get with the times and focus on the present. I will say, this messageboard has made a few of my lecture classes the past few weeks a little more interesting. Playing poker online during class gets old after awhile. |
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Post by Gordon55M on Apr 21, 2005 16:10:45 GMT -5
www.collegehumor.com/?movie_id=141943Collegehumor.com posted my video of the streaker in the national championship game on their site. It is pretty funny, you have to watch the end for the big black guy in red to come out of no where an tackle the guy. Someone was telling me that this kids team was going around trying to raise $2000 to bail him out and pay his fines Sat. night. Wonder if that was true.
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-For all you Midwesterners- Got any VERY early predictions on the top teams from each conference in the MIVA? I know alot depends on who returns, since many of us come back for a 5th (or more) years.