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Post by VBbeast on Oct 5, 2005 11:33:32 GMT -5
sometimes when I'm feeling sad I come to these boards to read the posts because some of the posters here make me laugh and then I feel happy again. ;D
I don't think I've heard anyone refer to Tyler as being a "good short setter" before. That was kind of amusing.
Thinking that replacing a guy who averaged less than 1 hitting error per game while getting the majority of the sets, was the best server, was the best passer, was the best left side blocker won't be a problem for Pepperdine is kind of funny too.
The part of me that needs the entertainment would like to encourage all you posters to contnue to type BEFORE you think ;D
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Post by nellakwah21 on Oct 5, 2005 11:51:41 GMT -5
I agree with Beast on this one. Those posts were pretty funny. Implying that Tyler is short and that the "game has passed him by" like he is some 40yr old has-been is something that does not carry weight. I don't believe the game changes fast enough in 3-4 years to pass up anyone who has been starting since their freshman year. He runs a great offense, and that is the most important thing, regardless if he touches 11 feet, or 11'6 like some 6'8" setter on the block.
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Post by vballmom on Oct 5, 2005 13:27:27 GMT -5
Tyler gets plenty of blocks, so even if someone thinks he's short ( ), the results speak for themselves. Tyler is only 21 years old, explain to me how the game has passed him by? He started for the WUG's for two years and has been starting for LBSU for three. He will be ready for his fourth and final season at LBSU by January and then we will see.... Rooney is going to be incredibly difficult to replace!!
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Oct 5, 2005 14:06:14 GMT -5
Has anyone ever run a PABLO scoring on the Men's side of the game?
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Oct 5, 2005 14:10:12 GMT -5
My prediction is that the 2006 season is gonna suck, and that men's college volleyball in general is sucking more and more each season.
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Post by couldabeengreat on Oct 6, 2005 0:45:32 GMT -5
someone sounds bitter
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Oct 6, 2005 2:36:21 GMT -5
My prediction is that the 2006 season is gonna suck, and that men's college volleyball in general is sucking more and more each season. What are your criteria for a great season to occur? (other than a bunch of old-time all stars to suddenly regain college elgibility)
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Oct 6, 2005 9:45:31 GMT -5
My prediction is that the 2006 season is gonna suck, and that men's college volleyball in general is sucking more and more each season. What are your criteria for a great season to occur? (other than a bunch of old-time all stars to suddenly regain college elgibility) Well, having more than 1 or 2 legitimate contenders to the national title would be a good start. Also, having more competition within each of the leagues (MPSF, MIVA, EIVA) would be nice too. There is nothing worse than watching a match between MPSF mid-to-bottom feeder teams who are sleep-walking and half-assing their way through a 53-minute 3-game match, in the hopes that they can get out early and get an early start on the weekend partying.
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eiva
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Post by eiva on Oct 6, 2005 11:17:06 GMT -5
6'4" is short? Last time I checked the two Brazilian setter that were on their olympic team that won the gold medal were 6'2" and 6'3". This game is a game for setters who know the game and know where to put the ball. Hight isn't as important as you make it out to be. Trend in setters is tall. Rutgers just brought in a 6-8 setter, and PSU has had tall setters for some time. Seems backward, but setters are getting taller and MB are getting shorter and quicker.
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huntz
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Post by huntz on Oct 6, 2005 15:18:49 GMT -5
No offence, but why are you using Penn State and Rutgers as examples of trends when it comes down to setting? UCLA swept Penn State last year with a 6'1" setter, not to mention their 3-4 record against MPSF teams that for the most part had setters that were shorter than 6'4". Pepperdine did have a 6'8" setter, but he was not the reason why they won the national championship.
Look at the top teams in the world. A lot of them don't have tall setters. Their setters are quick and can get to the ball on bad passes and digs. They are smart and know the game. I will take Hildebrand over any setter back East no matter how tall they are becuase he posesses the qualities that I just metnioned. Those are the things that really count.
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Post by AAVolley on Oct 6, 2005 16:38:44 GMT -5
EIVA either has absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about or is playing some kind of joke to get a reaction. Tyler Hildebrand and Kevin Hansen (both "short") were in another league compared to every other setter in the nation last year, and most likely are the future of USA volleyball. Some 6'8 hack that no one has heard of going to blah blah blah miva/eiva school doesn't even warrant being mentioned in the same sentence as those two.
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eiva
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Post by eiva on Oct 6, 2005 22:41:14 GMT -5
The trend is for tall setters....look it up!
If LB had made it to the FF, (as many thought they should have- instead of UCLA) LB would have had the shortest setter in the tournament. Pepp 6-8, PSU 6-8 (listed 6-7), and OSU at 6-6 (plays like 6-8). 10 years ago, setters were 5ft nothing; 5 yrs ago, setters were 6ft 2or3; now setters are coming in tall.
Ask any VB coach what he wants for Xmas, and he will tell you a tall setter! The game is changing....get with it and notice the trends.
Rutgers 6-8 setter (Hulse) has an older MB brother that just helped win a national championship. He is also 6-8. Kinda interesting isn't it?
Maybe if LB had a taller setter...they would have made the tournament last year.
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Post by AAVolley on Oct 6, 2005 23:15:02 GMT -5
Your posts are getting more inane by the second. Trends??? Please, ask any coach what he wants for X-MAS if he could take any current player in the MPSF, and he would say Tyler Hildebrand. End of story.
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huntz
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Post by huntz on Oct 6, 2005 23:36:41 GMT -5
eiva please stop now. It's not very often that people lose credibility on these things but you are pushing it. UCLA did have the shortest setter in the tournament at 6'1", which is shorter than Tyler who is 6'4". Tyler was a first team all-American over every setter that you just mentioned. BYU has won three national titles since 1999. The setters on those three teams were 6'1" and 6'3".
I don't know if you are flat out choosing to ignore the facts about top Olympic teams around the world using setters that to you are considered short, but you need to accept the fact that hight does not make a great setter.
It may be the trend back East, but it is not out West. Pepperdine is the exception, not the trend; and as I stated before the reason why they won was becuase they had a guy named Sean Rooney on their team.
Either way, considering the performence of the eiva and miva teams in the final four you might want to go back to having short setters. It was clearly demonstrated that the Eastern teams could not effectively pass the hard serving of the MPSF teams. Due to the fact that your setters don't have mobility the offences of Penn State and Ohio State could not function.
Pepperdine could pass, and that's why the could function, but even then in games two and three when they weren't passing the tough UCLA serving the weakness of having a immobile setter was exposed.
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Post by VBaller23 on Oct 7, 2005 0:56:41 GMT -5
I can't even think of anything else to say to eiva but this. YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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