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Post by SaltNPepper on Oct 29, 2009 20:51:22 GMT -5
During Wednesday night's Texas/Texas A&M telecast on ESPNU, they showed projected tourney seedings: Gainesville #1 Texas / #8 Iowa State Minneapolis #2 Penn State / #7 Minnesota Omaha #3 Washington / #6 Hawaii Palo Alto #4 Stanford / #5 Illinois Think that's what I recall seeing . . . If Texas and ISU end up 1st and 2nd in the Big 12, I'd be surprised if they put them in the same regional. That would be about like making a Washington & Stanford that finished 1st and 2nd in the Pac-10 the 4 and 5 seeds. Not going to happen. |
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 30, 2009 0:39:03 GMT -5
Dayton and St. Louis are virtually a lock to get in, and I wouldn't be surprised if CUSA got a second team. I'd be stunned if the Sun Belt only got one team. I don't know who the 2nd or 3rd teams would be but this conference is not just the FIU show. Dayton has a bad loss to Marquette. Who have they beat? Saint Louis? Saint Louis has a great win over Cal and a bunch of good losses. Saint Louis scheduled like they want to go to the NCAAs. If Saint Louis wins their conference, Dayton should stay home in my opinion. Sun Belt has never deserved more than one team. Even when New Mexico State and Western Kentucky were fighting it out back in the day, it was iffy. I don't buy the Conference USA with two bids argument, either. Show me a good win from anyone in that conference. And yes IB, you left out Washington State. I think I know what changed since 10/23.  Somehow I did omit Oregon. Weird. Pac-10 gets 7, undubitably. 8 is very likely with Oregon being the team I omitted. |
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Oct 30, 2009 0:45:09 GMT -5
And yes IB, you left out Washington State. I think I know what changed since 10/23. Somehow I did omit Oregon. Weird. So, why did I read that as WSU being left out? Weird. |
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 30, 2009 0:48:09 GMT -5
Somehow I did omit Oregon. Weird. So, why did I read that as WSU being left out? Weird. |
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Post by justavolleyballfan on Nov 8, 2009 8:52:06 GMT -5
time for an update
Current conference Standings:
Pac-10:
Washington (10-3, 20-3)
UCLA (9-3, 19-6)
Stanford (9-4, 16-7)
California (8-5, 15-8)
Oregon (6-6, 16-6)
Big 12:
Texas (14-1, 19-1)
Iowa State (12-3, 20-4)
Nebraska (11-4, 18-6)
Big-10:
Penn State (14-0, 26-0)
Illinois (12-2, 20-3)
Minnesota (9-4, 18-7)
Michigan (8-6, 20-7)
Ohio State (8-6, 20-7)
SEC:
Kentucky (13-1, 23-2)
LSU (13-2, 19-5)
Florida (12-2, 19-3)
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Post by big12maniac on Nov 8, 2009 11:31:12 GMT -5
time for an update Current conference Standings: Pac-10: Washington (10-3, 20-3) UCLA (9-3, 19-6) Stanford (9-4, 16-7) California (8-5, 15-8) Oregon (6-6, 16-6) Big 12: Texas (14-1, 19-1) Iowa State (12-3, 20-4) Nebraska (11-4, 18-6) Oklahoma (10-5, 17-7) Baylor (9-6, 20-6) Big-10: Penn State (14-0, 26-0) Illinois (12-2, 20-3) Minnesota (9-4, 18-7) Michigan (8-6, 20-7) Ohio State (8-6, 20-7) SEC: Kentucky (13-1, 23-2) LSU (13-2, 19-5) Florida (12-2, 19-3) |
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Post by jets on Nov 9, 2009 3:52:54 GMT -5
Conference | Bid Cnt | Bid Cnt | Bid Cnt | AutoBid Team | AtLargeTeams | AtLargeTeams | AtLargeTeams
| | - | Locks | Expctd | Max | ExpctdConfChamp | Locks | Likely | Outsideshot/Unlikely | | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | | America East | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Albany | - | - | - | | Atlantic 10 | 1 | 2 | 2 | <champ> Dayton | SLU | Dayton | - | | Atlantic Coast | 2 | 3 | 4 | <champ> FSU | FSU, Duke, | GTech | Mia-Fl, UNC, Clem, | | Atlantic Sun | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Lipscomb | - | - | Lipscomb | | Big 12 | 5 | 6 | 7 | <champ> Texas | Texas, ISU, Neb, Baylor, | Okla, TexAM, | Mizz | | Big East | 1 | 2 | 4 | <champ> NDame | NDame, | Cinci, Pitt, | Louisville | | Big Sky | 1 | 1 | 2 | <champ> PtldSt | - | - | PtldSt | | Big South | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> UNC-Ash | - | - | - | | Big Ten | 5 | 6 | 8 | <champ> PSU | PSU, Illinois, Minn, Mich, OSU, | - | Wisc, NW, MSU | | Big West | 2 | 3 | 4 | <champ> ? LBSU/UCI/UCSB | LBSU, UCIrvine, UCSB, | - | UCDavis, Pacific | | Colonial Athletic Association | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> VCU | - | - | - | | Conference USA | 1 | 2 | 3 | <champ> SMU | - | Tulane | SMiss, Tulsa, SMU, Rice | | Great West | 0 | 0 | 0 | <champ> - | - | - | UND | | Horizon League | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> CleveSt | - | - | - | | Ivy League | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Penn | - | - | - | | Metro Atlantic Athletic | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Fairfield | - | - | - | | Mid-American | 1 | 1 | 2 | <champ> Ohio | - | Ohio | WMich, Mia-OH | | Mid-Eastern Athletic | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> MES/FAM | - | - | - | | Missouri Valley | 1 | 2 | 3 | <champ> UNI | UNI, | WtcSt, | MizzSt | | Mountain West | 2 | 3 | 4 | <champ> CSU | CSU, TCU, | UNM | Utah, BYU | | Northeast | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> LIU | - | - | - | | Ohio Valley | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> JSU/AP | - | - | - | | Pac-10 | 8 | 8 | 9 | <champ> Wash | Wash, UCLA, Stan, Cal, Ore, Ariz, USC,WSU, | - | OreSt,ArizSt | | Patriot | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Army | - | - | - | | Southeastern | 4 | 4 | 4 | <champ> Kt/Fl/LSU | Kent, Flor, LSU, Tenn | - | - | | Southern | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Furman | - | - | Furman | | Southland | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> CArk | - | - | - | | Southwestern Athletic | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> GS/AAM | - | - | - | | Sun Belt | 1 | 2 | 3 | <champ> FIU | FIU | MTS | WK,Den | | The Summit League | 1 | 1 | 2 | <champ> NDSU | - | NDSU | - | | West Coast | 2 | 3 | 5 | <champ> SMC | SMC, USD, | Pepp, | SCU, USFr | | Western Athletic | 1 | 1 | 2 | <champ> Haw | Haw, | - | NMSU | | 53 | 64 | 82 | | | | |
Modified for following edits: - SMC -Low/High Bid Count changed to Locks/Max Bid Counts |
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Post by rogero1 on Nov 9, 2009 5:09:29 GMT -5
Big Ten will not get 8 bids. They will be lucky to get 6 only if Wisconsin goes .500 in Big Ten play.
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Post by gobruins on Nov 9, 2009 5:59:46 GMT -5
Conference | Bid Cnt | Bid Cnt | Bid Cnt | AutoBid Team | AtLargeTeams | AtLargeTeams | AtLargeTeams
| | - | Low | Expctd | High | ExpctdConfChamp | Locks | Likely | Outsideshot/Unlikely | | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | | America East | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Albany | - | - | - | | Atlantic 10 | 1 | 2 | 2 | <champ> Dayton | SLU | Dayton | - | | Atlantic Coast | 2 | 3 | 4 | <champ> FSU | FSU, Duke, | GTech | Mia-Fl, UNC, Clem, | | Atlantic Sun | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Lipscomb | - | - | Lipscomb | | Big 12 | 5 | 6 | 7 | <champ> Texas | Texas, ISU, Neb, Baylor, | Okla, TexAM, | Mizz | | Big East | 1 | 2 | 4 | <champ> NDame | NDame, | Cinci, Pitt, | Louisville | | Big Sky | 1 | 1 | 2 | <champ> PtldSt | - | - | PtldSt | | Big South | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> UNC-Ash | - | - | - | | Big Ten | 5 | 6 | 8 | <champ> PSU | PSU, Illinois, Minn, Mich, OSU, | - | Wisc, NW, MSU | | Big West | 2 | 3 | 4 | <champ> ? LBSU/UCI/UCSB | LBSU, UCIrvine, UCSB, | - | UCDavis, Pacific | | Colonial Athletic Association | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> VCU | - | - | - | | Conference USA | 1 | 2 | 3 | <champ> SMU | - | Tulane | SMiss, Tulsa, SMU, Rice | | Great West | 0 | 0 | 0 | <champ> - | - | - | UND | | Horizon League | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> CleveSt | - | - | - | | Ivy League | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Penn | - | - | - | | Metro Atlantic Athletic | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Fairfield | - | - | - | | Mid-American | 1 | 1 | 2 | <champ> Ohio | - | Ohio | WMich, Mia-OH | | Mid-Eastern Athletic | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> MES/FAM | - | - | - | | Missouri Valley | 1 | 2 | 3 | <champ> UNI | UNI, | WtcSt, | MizzSt | | Mountain West | 2 | 3 | 4 | <champ> CSU | CSU, TCU, | UNM | Utah, BYU | | Northeast | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> LIU | - | - | - | | Ohio Valley | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> JSU/AP | - | - | - | | Pac-10 | 8 | 8 | 9 | <champ> Wash | Wash, UCLA, Stan, Cal, Ore, Ariz, USC,WSU, | - | OreSt,ArizSt | | Patriot | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Army | - | - | - | | Southeastern | 4 | 4 | 4 | <champ> Kt/Fl/LSU | Kent, Flor, LSU, Tenn | - | - | | Southern | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> Furman | - | - | Furman | | Southland | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> CArk | - | - | - | | Southwestern Athletic | 1 | 1 | 1 | <champ> GS/AAM | - | - | - | | Sun Belt | 1 | 2 | 3 | <champ> FIU | FIU | MTS | WK,Den | | The Summit League | 1 | 1 | 2 | <champ> NDSU | - | NDSU | - | | West Coast | 2 | 3 | 5 | <champ> SMU | SMU, USD, | Pepp, | SCU, USFr | | Western Athletic | 1 | 1 | 2 | <champ> Haw | Haw, | - | NMSU | | 53 | 64 | 82 | | | | |
The expected champion of the West Coast Conference is St. Mary's College. It is SMC, not SMU. |
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Post by SaltNPepper on Nov 9, 2009 7:49:47 GMT -5
Do you really think that Washington State is a lock for a tournament bid? They have just lost their last 4 matches and in the remaining six, they have Washington, UCLA and USC on the road and Eastern Washington and the Oregon teams at home. Pretty easy to pencil in 4 more losses meaning they could finish the season 2-8 with something around 6-12 in conference. And USC might not be much better in the conference standings.
I'm not saying that these two teams aren't among the 31 best at-large teams, but I just question whether you can justify putting a team that far down in a conference into the tournament. Yes, the conference is very tough, but by allowing that many losses as being "OK", they are essentially giving teams a free pass on about half of the matches they play in a season. If they win any of them, we say "Great, see how good they are." , and if they lose, then its, "Well, you can't expect them to beat so & so.". That attitude really puts them in a win-win situation and is not really fair. If a team is in a tough conference (and I agree that the Pac-10 is the toughest) I just don't think the committee should be pulling teams from the bottom third of the conference standing if they are only winning about a third of their conference matches. But what do us fans know?
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Post by lionsfan on Nov 9, 2009 15:17:00 GMT -5
Well, it’s still way too early, but I’m bored and it’s fun! So here are some predictions:
Florida Regional:
1. Penn State
2. Iowa State
3. Florida
4. Florida State
(5. LSU?)
Minnesota Regional:
1. Texas
2. UCLA
3. Minnesota
4. Oregon? Some Pac-10 team?
Stanford Regional:
1. Hawaii
2. Stanford
3. Cal
4. Michigan?
Nebraska Regional:
1. Washington
2. Illinois
3. Nebraska
4. Kentucky? (Maybe Florida State?)
Thoughts:
*Some key Pac 10 contests will solidify the pecking order in the next few weeks; the SEC will have an interesting end (Florida has the toughest road ahead). Penn State has a few tough contests, but they are at home…and even with a loss (Illinois being the biggest danger), they’ll still be a top 2 seed if they just drop one match. Won’t make much difference, ultimately, in where everyone is placed.
*Penn State and Texas are as of now overall No. 1 and No. 2, and I would think are vying for the Minnesota/Florida regionals. PSU could easily be sent to Minnesota if the Gophers finish 3rd or lower in the conference, but I could be wrong (Illinois, as Big Ten #3, was put in the PSU bracket last year). Frankly, the last place I want to see PSU end up is Nebraska, but I would be shocked if Washington doesn’t get sent to Lincoln.
*For some reason (location!), I feel like they might send Iowa State to the Minnesota regional, in which case Penn State probably goes there, too.
*If Florida and Florida State both get placed in the Florida regional, that could end up being a tougher task for the top 2 seeds than we might have expected.
*It’s those 4th seeds that are tough to predict, but I expect some mid-tier Pac 10 teams, a few SEC teams (Kentucky, LSU) and Michigan to be in the mix.
*My biggest concern with my own predictions is repetition in match-ups, either from the regular season (Hawaii/Stanford, potentially Iowa State/Minnesota) or from last year's tourney (Hawaii/Stanford, Washington/Nebraska, Texas/UCLA), but that hasn't seemed to deter the NCAA in the past...in fact, they almost relish "turning the tables". As I said, I would be stunned not to see the Huskies placed in the Nebraska regional.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 9, 2009 15:23:35 GMT -5
I think Hawai'i fans will be pleased if things turn out the way you predicted. Hawai'i matches up well against Stanford and Cal. Having watched Michigan play Northwestern on TV over the weekend, I think Hawai'i matches up well with the Wolverines as well.
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Post by aardvark on Nov 9, 2009 16:25:35 GMT -5
Well, it’s still way too early, but I’m bored and it’s fun! So here are some predictions: Florida Regional:1. Penn State 2. Iowa State 3. Florida 4. Florida State Right now, FSU is 23-2 with 5 games left. If they lose any of those, I don't think they'll get a top 16 seeding. However, if they win out, they'll have a gaudy 28-2 record (note they are currently #2 in RPI). Their only losses are in 5 games to #10 ranked Florida and in 5 games to a GT team that would likely make the NCAA field if it were decided today. Along with that, they have a 3-0 sweep over #5 ranked Illinois. That's my way of saying they would probably earn a regional #3 seed. As for the ACC, I agree that the conference will likely get three teams in the field. I think Miami and UNC are already out, but a strong end run by Clemson could cause them to take GT's place as the 3rd ACC team. |
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Post by jets on Nov 9, 2009 18:07:36 GMT -5
Big Ten will not get 8 bids. They will be lucky to get 6 only if Wisconsin goes .500 in Big Ten play. High: 8 is the max (but unlikely). Prob: Probable is 6. Low: Definite is 5 teams (PSU, Illinois, Minn, Mich, OSU) |
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Post by jets on Nov 9, 2009 18:08:29 GMT -5
The expected champion of the West Coast Conference is St. Mary's College. It is SMC, not SMU. Thanks, will change. |
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