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Post by gocats08 on Jan 12, 2010 22:28:22 GMT -5
J Mac to UCLA back to socal Leslie Tui UW.
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Post by aced on Jan 12, 2010 23:40:30 GMT -5
JMac would be the ONE to bring ucla where it should be..but does he want it or not, who knows??
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Post by chipNdink on Jan 13, 2010 2:05:58 GMT -5
Breaking news: Lane Kiffin, head coach at Tennessee for ONE year, is now the head coach at USC. No one cares about football here. But I bring this up only to point out that even in the most visible of sports -- football -- athletic departments do the craziest and stupidest things. I would not be surprised what UCLA does with the head coach position for an invisible sport -- volleyball. They may just hire someone cheap. Lane Kiffin wasn't hired because he was Tenneesee's coach for one year, but because he was Carroll's assistant for SIX years. I'm sure Pete had alot of input and say as to who would succeed him at USC. Who better than one of his best disciples, and someone he groomed and mentored to become a head coach? Which of course begs the question of why Kim is not the obvious first choice or even being considered for Andy's job? If he wasn't grooming her for that position, then what the hell was he doing all those years?
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Post by fredf99 on Jan 13, 2010 2:13:25 GMT -5
kim will be coaching in italy soon
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Post by austintatious on Jan 13, 2010 9:56:28 GMT -5
I think it is telling in Andy's remarks that after reviewing the end of season evaluations he made the decision. Don't you think with all the unrest and drama that the evals were pretty harsh for both him and Kim? I think that is the reason Kim is not a viable candidate.
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Post by itsallrelative on Jan 13, 2010 12:52:06 GMT -5
Ricci Luyties is in the Hall of Fame at UCLA. 4 time National Champion during his days there. Has paid his dues at Southern Miss and in the High School and Club ranks in San Diego. UCLA has to give him a good look. His record works against him. 2009 27-5-0 2008 17-13-0 2007 13-21-0 2006 15-18-0 2005 6-19 2004 7-20 Previous coach's last year(2003) was 27-6. If it took 6 years to return a program back to where it was in Conferance USA---how long would that equate to in the Pac-10?
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Post by rogero1 on Jan 13, 2010 13:16:26 GMT -5
Ricci Luyties is in the Hall of Fame at UCLA. 4 time National Champion during his days there. Has paid his dues at Southern Miss and in the High School and Club ranks in San Diego. UCLA has to give him a good look. His record works against him. 2009 27-5-0 2008 17-13-0 2007 13-21-0 2006 15-18-0 2005 6-19 2004 7-20 Previous coach's last year(2003) was 27-6. If it took 6 years to return a program back to where it was in Conferance USA---how long would that equate to in the Pac-10? It's comparing apples and oranges here with a Conference USA school that he had to build from scratch and a top Pac-10 school that has most of its pieces in place.
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Post by spalding on Jan 13, 2010 13:18:23 GMT -5
Ricci Luyties is in the Hall of Fame at UCLA. 4 time National Champion during his days there. Has paid his dues at Southern Miss and in the High School and Club ranks in San Diego. UCLA has to give him a good look. His record works against him. 2009 27-5-0 2008 17-13-0 2007 13-21-0 2006 15-18-0 2005 6-19 2004 7-20 Previous coach's last year(2003) was 27-6. If it took 6 years to return a program back to where it was in Conferance USA---how long would that equate to in the Pac-10? To me, that is a proven track record of improvement. An assistant coach like Sealy has no track record. Karch has no track record. Come on, a UCLA/LA beach kid sticking it out in Hattiesburg, Mississippi and building a program. That shows loyalty and perseverance. Plus he is a setter. IMO it is a no brainer.
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Post by jackjohnson on Jan 13, 2010 13:26:18 GMT -5
It's a proven track record of mediocrity...with one good year. That doesn't get you one of the top jobs in the sport.
Karch doesn't have the coaching track record, but there's no mediocrity in anything he's done. They may offer himn just for the name and the fact they won't have to pay him like they would to get a proven coach.
Economics will come into play...I don't think UCLA pays there staff in the top half of the Pac-10
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Post by aced on Jan 13, 2010 13:32:28 GMT -5
I think Karch could also recruit well and the student body might get more interested in volleyball with him as coach.
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Post by aced on Jan 13, 2010 13:33:39 GMT -5
and it's not like ucla has won any ncaa championships recently.
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Post by jackjohnson on Jan 13, 2010 13:35:15 GMT -5
People who have a PROVEN record and would do a great job and would be WILLING TO LEAVE present situation:
Lamb Hilbert Skinner Jordan Launiere Wallace Rosen
If they want UCLA ties...the pickins are slim
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Post by bkedane on Jan 13, 2010 13:42:49 GMT -5
People who have a PROVEN record and would do a great job and would be WILLING TO LEAVE present situation: Lamb Hilbert Skinner Jordan Launiere Wallace Rosen If they want UCLA ties...the pickins are slim Are you sure all of these are willing to leave their present job?
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Post by Carlton Lassiter on Jan 13, 2010 13:48:44 GMT -5
His record works against him. 2009 27-5-0 2008 17-13-0 2007 13-21-0 2006 15-18-0 2005 6-19 2004 7-20 Previous coach's last year(2003) was 27-6. If it took 6 years to return a program back to where it was in Conferance USA---how long would that equate to in the Pac-10? To me, that is a proven track record of improvement. An assistant coach like Sealy has no track record. Karch has no track record. Come on, a UCLA/LA beach kid sticking it out in Hattiesburg, Mississippi and building a program. That shows loyalty and perseverance. Plus he is a setter. IMO it is a no brainer. Not sure about "loyalty and perseverance." Where exactly could he have gone?
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 13, 2010 13:56:58 GMT -5
I question whether Karch Kiraly is right for the job. Regardless of win-loss records (or lack thereof), would he even be interested in all the little things -- the grunt work -- that a head coach is prepared to do? The recruiting, the paperwork, the budget, the travel, the film study, the meetings, the massaging egos of players and parents, the training, etc. Granted, he can get his assistants to do a lot of that for him, but he is ultimately responsible and he has to oversee all that is UCLA volleyball.
My guess is that he's living a comfortable life as a quasi-celebrity. A job that requires mundane tasks is beyond his patience. I'm not sure he has any hunger in him to do what's necessary to be a successful head coach.
For example, I've been out of the job market for some time now, living a cozy existence with my praying mantis collection and watercolors. I don't think I could go back to the grind of commuting to work, dealing with coworkers, and of course, actually doing some work.
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