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Post by oldunc on Nov 18, 2023 11:35:18 GMT -5
So it was a slow morning- as usual, Stanford scheduled a tough preseason. Or so it seemed. Skipping Northern Colorado there were 8 matches that seemed challenging at the time (Colorado State had just beaten Kentucky). Of those teams, Nebraska and Louisville have been consistent. Texas has righted things, but they were floundering at the time. After that, Colorado State, Rice and Florida have 6 losses each in conference, Minnesota has 7, Ohio State 10. What to make of this- other than it's not easy to predict how teams will play- I'm not sure, but I found it interesting.
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Post by baller8 on Nov 18, 2023 11:35:30 GMT -5
There are definitely times the team let's off the gas. The killer instinct still isn't there. I'm hoping they all come together in the tournament. agreed, when they are on they look to be right up there with nebraska but they just seem to lose focus mid way through sets/matches. hopefully the potential of playing the last match of their season/careers keeps them focused in the tourney
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Post by cbrown1709 on Nov 18, 2023 12:04:55 GMT -5
So it was a slow morning- as usual, Stanford scheduled a tough preseason. Or so it seemed. Skipping Northern Colorado there were 8 matches that seemed challenging at the time (Colorado State had just beaten Kentucky). Of those teams, Nebraska and Louisville have been consistent. Texas has righted things, but they were floundering at the time. After that, Colorado State, Rice and Florida have 6 losses each in conference, Minnesota has 7, Ohio State 10. What to make of this- other than it's not easy to predict how teams will play- I'm not sure, but I found it interesting. Florida would still be #2 team without the injuries.
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Post by acea on Nov 18, 2023 12:46:31 GMT -5
There are definitely times the team let's off the gas. The killer instinct still isn't there. I'm hoping they all come together in the tournament. Yeah like they look unstoppable at times and then extremely mediocre. But at least we can rely on them to dominate 5th sets this season
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Post by dokterrudi on Nov 18, 2023 13:07:10 GMT -5
Coaching? I mean the team has always been a little soft at times(hate the term), but sometimes you just need to make someone mad. Usually worked with my kid…😆
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Post by dokterrudi on Nov 18, 2023 13:13:18 GMT -5
There are definitely times the team let's off the gas. The killer instinct still isn't there. I'm hoping they all come together in the tournament. USD last year, perfect example.
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Post by naujack85 on Nov 18, 2023 20:11:15 GMT -5
Coaching? I mean the team has always been a little soft at times(hate the term), but sometimes you just need to make someone mad. Usually worked with my kid…😆 Never really saw Plummer get mad even once and she led us to 3 championships
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Post by volleylbc on Nov 18, 2023 21:23:33 GMT -5
I was at the UCLA game last night. I even got a chance to chat with some of the UCLA men’s team who started filtering in around the 2nd set.
My observations.
Kami & Kipp had more than a few plays that put the entire arena in shock. One of the bics Kipp absolutely demolished the UCLA men’s team all looked at each other in disbelief. Even got a “OMGGGGG” out of McHenry lol John Speraw turned to a colleague and shook his head in awe.
Miner is hands DOWN the best setter in the NCAA and that’s not an opinion. She was getting rave reviews from important volleyball minds in the audience ALL NIGHT. She is incredible!!
One thing I noticed about this team is there is NO definitive leader. Kipp talks to the team in time outs but there is absolutely no conviction there. Rubin on the other hand has that fiery leader spirit and she is the future heartbeat of this team. Vicinne has a lot more bounce than I originally thought, great to see her have an amazing game.
I mentioned the other day I’m curious how fast they speed up the offense next year and watching the hitting lines it’s very apparent by the tempo to Harvey, Blyshov and Kurt they will go fast!
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Post by Turlington on Nov 18, 2023 22:08:14 GMT -5
Jenna Gray!
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 18, 2023 22:10:20 GMT -5
I was at the UCLA game last night. I even got a chance to chat with some of the UCLA men’s team who started filtering in around the 2nd set. My observations. Kami & Kipp had more than a few plays that put the entire arena in shock. One of the bics Kipp absolutely demolished the UCLA men’s team all looked at each other in disbelief. Even got a “OMGGGGG” out of McHenry lol John Speraw turned to a colleague and shook his head in awe. Miner is hands DOWN the best setter in the NCAA and that’s not an opinion. She was getting rave reviews from important volleyball minds in the audience ALL NIGHT. She is incredible!! One thing I noticed about this team is there is NO definitive leader. Kipp talks to the team in time outs but there is absolutely no conviction there. Rubin on the other hand has that fiery leader spirit and she is the future heartbeat of this team. Vicinne has a lot more bounce than I originally thought, great to see her have an amazing game. I mentioned the other day I’m curious how fast they speed up the offense next year and watching the hitting lines it’s very apparent by the tempo to Harvey, Blyshov and Kurt they will go fast! It's always only an opinion.
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Post by dokterrudi on Nov 18, 2023 22:28:33 GMT -5
Coaching? I mean the team has always been a little soft at times(hate the term), but sometimes you just need to make someone mad. Usually worked with my kid…😆 Never really saw Plummer get mad even once and she led us to 3 championships The 2019 team was a wrecking crew after Plummer came back from injury. She definitely played with purpose, she wasn’t the demonstrative type but she would hit with some FU.
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Post by volleylbc on Nov 18, 2023 22:36:32 GMT -5
I was at the UCLA game last night. I even got a chance to chat with some of the UCLA men’s team who started filtering in around the 2nd set. My observations. Kami & Kipp had more than a few plays that put the entire arena in shock. One of the bics Kipp absolutely demolished the UCLA men’s team all looked at each other in disbelief. Even got a “OMGGGGG” out of McHenry lol John Speraw turned to a colleague and shook his head in awe. Miner is hands DOWN the best setter in the NCAA and that’s not an opinion. She was getting rave reviews from important volleyball minds in the audience ALL NIGHT. She is incredible!! One thing I noticed about this team is there is NO definitive leader. Kipp talks to the team in time outs but there is absolutely no conviction there. Rubin on the other hand has that fiery leader spirit and she is the future heartbeat of this team. Vicinne has a lot more bounce than I originally thought, great to see her have an amazing game. I mentioned the other day I’m curious how fast they speed up the offense next year and watching the hitting lines it’s very apparent by the tempo to Harvey, Blyshov and Kurt they will go fast! It's always only an opinion. There are opposing opinions to Kami being the best setter in the nation….those are wrong, but go off.
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 18, 2023 23:09:52 GMT -5
It's always only an opinion. There are opposing opinions to Kami being the best setter in the nation….those are wrong, but go off. Much greater praise was heaped on Lauren Carlini, and you probably know how that story has fared. There are a lot of good things to say about Miner, but don't outrun your headlights.
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Post by volleylbc on Nov 18, 2023 23:22:57 GMT -5
There are opposing opinions to Kami being the best setter in the nation….those are wrong, but go off. Much greater praise was heaped on Lauren Carlini, and you probably know how that story has fared. There are a lot of good things to say about Miner, but don't outrun your headlights. I don’t actually know how that story has fared in correlation to what Kamis currently doing, care to elaborate? My understanding is Carlini is the best pure setter the USA has on the senior team. The reason she gets left off of rosters has nothing to do with her setting. I feel like sometimes people want to take jabs at Kami and stop others from giving her, her flowers for no reason and it’s pretty weird tbh.
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 18, 2023 23:34:56 GMT -5
Much greater praise was heaped on Lauren Carlini, and you probably know how that story has fared. There are a lot of good things to say about Miner, but don't outrun your headlights. I don’t actually know how that story has fared in correlation to what Kamis currently doing, care to elaborate? My understanding is Carlini is the best pure setter the USA has on the senior team. The reason she gets left off of rosters has nothing to do with her setting. I feel like sometimes people want to take jabs at Kami and stop others from giving her, her flowers for no reason and it’s pretty weird tbh. I don't consider myself to be in the group that takes jabs at Miner. As I said, she brings a lot to the table. But I think you have to look at admiration for Miner from someone like Speraw as coming from the perspective of looking at setters in the men's game primarily (In that sense, Miner to Poulter might be a better comparison than Miner to Carlini--that's a simplified argument, but I'm just trying to set context here). Even so, Miner still doesn't have the control over location and tempo to run a truly efficient system. I think that can be seen by watching Stanford play. But the potential, in time, certainly is there.
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