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Post by bigjohn043 on Jan 7, 2024 12:36:00 GMT -5
I have seen Sayer, Harvey, and ZGM play in person - hope to be proven wrong but I think Sayer is the weakest among the three today - obviously still elite among her age group and not set in stone as players improve a lot but not sure if she can given Hambly’s track record coaching middles Haven't seen them in person but have watched tape. I thought Sayer had the best arm swing of the three but is the least athletic. My guess is Sayer and ZGM were not priority recruits for us. ZGM took the Duke offer and I am sure they were making it clear that she was a priority for them. Very similar situation with Glass. FWIW, both Vincini and Campbell were bigger recruits than either Sayer or ZGM. I continue to wonder is Jordyn can't be moved to MB. She is on the short side but super athletic. I am also of the view this is an easier transition than most here... |
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 7, 2024 12:42:33 GMT -5
I have seen Sayer, Harvey, and ZGM play in person - hope to be proven wrong but I think Sayer is the weakest among the three today - obviously still elite among her age group and not set in stone as players improve a lot but not sure if she can given Hambly’s track record coaching middles I thought Sayer had the best arm swing of the three but is the least athletic. My guess is Sayer and ZGM were not priority recruits for us. ZGM took the Duke offer and I am sure they were making it clear that she was a priority for them. Very similar situation with Glass. this gets brought up all the time and I dont think people realize that stanford didn't want glass lol, yes her dream school was stanford and her TikTok highlights look impressive... but from what I heard hambly never actually recruited her in the first place |
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Post by hammer on Jan 7, 2024 12:43:25 GMT -5
For us that don’t know, do you mind sharing what that is? NIL? I assume they’re implying the grades weren’t there. I will say, when asked what made her ultimately decide on Texas, Harvey in an interview said the last straw was her unofficial visit there. While believable, that doesn’t really make sense because that was a long while ago and she didn’t commit until January. Possibly she was waiting for an ACT or SAT score to boost her resume. The score may have been too low to safely clear Admissions, in which case she would have to take either test again in Feb or March. |
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Post by hammer on Jan 7, 2024 12:49:05 GMT -5
I thought Sayer had the best arm swing of the three but is the least athletic. My guess is Sayer and ZGM were not priority recruits for us. ZGM took the Duke offer and I am sure they were making it clear that she was a priority for them. Very similar situation with Glass. this gets brought up all the time and I dont think people realize that stanford didn't want glass lol, yes her dream school was stanford and her TikTok highlights look impressive... but from what I heard hambly never actually recruited her in the first place Could be more about need. We already have Yu and supposedly are recruiting Parks. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jan 7, 2024 13:55:18 GMT -5
I assume they’re implying the grades weren’t there. I will say, when asked what made her ultimately decide on Texas, Harvey in an interview said the last straw was her unofficial visit there. While believable, that doesn’t really make sense because that was a long while ago and she didn’t commit until January. It does sound like she visited her top schools many times before deciding, it’s possible that she did visit Stanford recently that we are not aware of. She was there for the Regional semis and finals |
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Post by bigjohn043 on Jan 7, 2024 13:57:52 GMT -5
this gets brought up all the time and I dont think people realize that stanford didn't want glass lol, yes her dream school was stanford and her TikTok highlights look impressive... but from what I heard hambly never actually recruited her in the first place Could be more about need. We already have Yu and supposedly are recruiting Parks. I think it is the same thing. We (and frankly the rest of the world) liked Yu and Parks better. FWIW, Stanford did recruit her. They just didn't offer her. Duke was a really good landing place for both her and ZGM. |
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Post by slxpress on Jan 7, 2024 15:04:22 GMT -5
For us that don’t know, do you mind sharing what that is? NIL? I assume they’re implying the grades weren’t there. I will say, when asked what made her ultimately decide on Texas, Harvey in an interview said the last straw was her unofficial visit there. While believable, that doesn’t really make sense because that was a long while ago and she didn’t commit until January. I was told weeks ago she had already committed to Texas. I don’t pretend to know why she truly committed to Texas, or really when she made her decision. I also hardly think it’s some kind of source of shame if grades were a factor. Stanford is friggin’ tough, even for athletes. It’s part of what makes their success so special. Sure, they compromise a bit, just like the Ivy Leagues do, but they don’t compromise the way the big time athletic programs are willing to. It doesn’t even mean she didn’t have the academics to get in. It could have been she just didn’t want to wait for the admissions process to play out. Maybe Texas was giving her the message “we want you, and we want to give you time to decide, but at this point we may have an opportunity to go after a middle blocker with multiple years of eligibility left, so if you want to come to Texas a decision sooner rather than later would be helpful.” |
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Post by slxpress on Jan 7, 2024 15:06:11 GMT -5
I assume they’re implying the grades weren’t there. I will say, when asked what made her ultimately decide on Texas, Harvey in an interview said the last straw was her unofficial visit there. While believable, that doesn’t really make sense because that was a long while ago and she didn’t commit until January. Possibly she was waiting for an ACT or SAT score to boost her resume. The score may have been too low to safely clear Admissions, in which case she would have to take either test again in Feb or March. I thought I read Stanford did away with using standardized test scores for admission? |
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Post by acea on Jan 7, 2024 15:17:29 GMT -5
Possibly she was waiting for an ACT or SAT score to boost her resume. The score may have been too low to safely clear Admissions, in which case she would have to take either test again in Feb or March. I thought I read Stanford did away with using standardized test scores for admission? It’s optional this last cycle but she’s a junior so she wouldn’t be technically applying until this coming fall. I don’t know if athletes follow the same timelines though |
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Post by hammer on Jan 7, 2024 16:06:21 GMT -5
Possibly she was waiting for an ACT or SAT score to boost her resume. The score may have been too low to safely clear Admissions, in which case she would have to take either test again in Feb or March. I thought I read Stanford did away with using standardized test scores for admission? They are optional, but most everyone takes them because of the acceptance rate. Straight A's and Valedictorian of your class might not cut it to gain acceptance. 1550 or above on your SAT score is positive reinforcement. |
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Post by slxpress on Jan 7, 2024 16:19:00 GMT -5
I thought I read Stanford did away with using standardized test scores for admission? They are optional, but most everyone takes them because of the acceptance rate. Straight A's and Valedictorian of your class might not cut it to gain acceptance. 1550 or above on your SAT score is positive reinforcement. Is that on a 1600 point scale? Lol. I scored a 1530 a long time ago. It’s hilarious to me to think that wouldn’t be seen as positive reinforcement. I know that’s not exactly what you’re saying, but that’s the first thing that came to mind. |
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Post by hammer on Jan 7, 2024 16:48:52 GMT -5
They are optional, but most everyone takes them because of the acceptance rate. Straight A's and Valedictorian of your class might not cut it to gain acceptance. 1550 or above on your SAT score is positive reinforcement. Is that on a 1600 point scale? Lol. I scored a 1530 a long time ago. It’s hilarious to me to think that wouldn’t be seen as positive reinforcement. I know that’s not exactly what you’re saying, but that’s the first thing that came to mind. Non athletes average out around 1560 out of 1600 on the SAT. For athletes the rough cutoff numbers were 1400 on the SAT and 30 on the ACT. Stanford and other elite institutions like to keep their athletes within one standard deviation of the average of their non-athlete students so they don't get academically discouraged and can compete in the classroom. |
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Post by paloalto on Jan 7, 2024 23:30:13 GMT -5
SAT and ACT are now optional as stated. Stanford WVB coaching staff will tell athletes what score they need in combination with their grades and class rigor. I know back in the day Corlett would tell recruits precisely what they needed for their test score.
Based on what some parents told me a long time ago, their kids didn't like waiting so long to find out if they would be admitted when they already had other good offers. I know Hodson's parents complained bitterly they should not have to wait to find out about their daughter being admitted.
On a random thought, I like the idea of Harvey practicing at MB as an alternate. I agree with a previous comment she has the athletic potential. Stanford depth is too thin at MB for the next two years.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Jan 7, 2024 23:37:57 GMT -5
J Harvey is not a middle and won't be.
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Post by paloalto on Jan 7, 2024 23:39:25 GMT -5
I have seen Sayer, Harvey, and ZGM play in person - hope to be proven wrong but I think Sayer is the weakest among the three today - obviously still elite among her age group and not set in stone as players improve a lot but not sure if she can given Hambly’s track record coaching middles Campbell and vicini never had the physicality or athleticism to be elite MBs, and he did a pretty good job with alade lol Hambly did an unbelievably good job with Alade in her final year. I still recall this video I saw of her playing on her high school team where one of the players served underhand. She came a long way. |
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